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66: Jaws vs Foo Fighters!

Pinball Party Podcast·podcast_episode·46m 10s·analyzed·Mar 19, 2024
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TL;DR

Jon reviews pinball games from Bad Penny Arcade trip; Foo Fighters is his current favorite.

Summary

Jon from Pinball Party Podcast recounts a road trip to Bad Penny Arcade in St. Paul, Minnesota where he played multiple pinball machines including Labyrinth, Jaws, Pulp Fiction, Foo Fighters, and others. He discusses his impressions of each game, the cost-benefit analysis of traveling for location play versus collecting, and concludes that Foo Fighters is his current favorite machine, followed by Walking Dead Pro and Ghostbusters. The episode includes extensive tangents about speeding tickets and a humorous 'car fart' invention idea.

Key Claims

  • Bad Penny Arcade opens at 7am, earlier than nearby competitor Tilt Forums which opens at 11am

    high confidence · Jon describing Bad Penny's operating hours as a major advantage for early morning play

  • A speeding ticket in Wisconsin for going 18 mph over the limit costs $250.90

    high confidence · Jon citing his specific ticket cost after being pulled over for doing 88 in a 70

  • Foo Fighters received a code update to version 1.03.0 that added new FooBot callouts, topper functionality, and another Combatron mode and multiball

    medium confidence · Jon discussing the new code update he experienced at Bad Penny Arcade and his relief that the callouts were improved

  • Jaws has a design issue where the wire form on the center ramp wedges the ball between itself and the playfield on the Limited Edition

    medium confidence · Jon describing a specific mechanical problem he encountered playing Jaws Limited Edition

  • Labyrinth is the first pinball machine from Barrels of Fun

    high confidence · Jon saying 'As far as like a first pinball machine from a company, A triple plus'

  • Pulp Fiction uses mono audio despite being an American Pinball machine and has exceptional sound design

    high confidence · Jon praising the audio: 'For a mono signal audio in there American Pinball machine. Jesus Christ. It's so good.'

  • Foo Fighters code update improved the FooBot callouts which were previously too loud in earlier versions

    high confidence · Jon describing his previous disappointment with the callouts and relief at the improvement in version 1.03.0

  • Jon's current top three pinball machines to own would be Foo Fighters, Walking Dead Pro, and either AC/DC Pro or Ghostbusters

    high confidence · Jon's concluding preference list after his location visit

  • Jurassic Park initially disappointed Jon on first play but became his favorite game after more experience

Notable Quotes

  • “I consider my time value, my personal time value is roughly $100. Give or take... So let's just say it's a three hour round trip to go to get Bad Penny, right? That's 300 bucks.”

    Jon @ early in episode — Establishes Jon's economic framework for justifying machine purchases versus location play

  • “Foo Fighters. At a Toys R Us near you, go find it.”

    Jon @ near end of reviews — Enthusiastic endorsement of Foo Fighters as his current favorite game

  • “And the game is great. I love the flipper feel in there in that game, which it's like a different kind of Sam Stern level of snappiness. It's just a different flavor of it.”

    Jon @ Pulp Fiction review — Praise for Pulp Fiction's flipper response compared to Stern machines

  • “It's like playing Skyrim in there the arcade... you going to walk away from either of those The Games Like eh it not great”

    Jon @ Jaws discussion — Jon's analogy explaining why complex rule-heavy games like Jaws don't work well on location

  • “The Flip lock is fucking awesome.”

    Jon @ Jaws discussion — Specific mechanical praise for Jaws' flip lock feature

  • “Your favorite The Games can change. And I think right now, given the choice of the pinball teleporter into my house... If I could have three pinball machines in my room right now that what I getting at Fin I'm looking behind me right now. What would I want to go up and play right now?”

    Jon @ conclusion section — Jon's philosophical reflection on how machine preferences evolve with experience and access

  • “Walking Dead Pro would definitely own again... I don't even know which one I would take.”

    Jon @ favorite games section — Jon uncertain between Pro and Premium versions of Walking Dead

  • “I messaged raydaypinball on the side like, Jon Hey, can you turn those down? You know, I don't want to hear them ever. They sounded so bad and loud.”

Entities

JonpersonZach SharpepersonNicolepersonKeith ElwinpersonDavid ThielpersonFlip N Out PinballcompanyBad Penny ArcadevenueTilt Forums Pinballvenue

Signals

  • ?

    venue_signal: Bad Penny Arcade in St. Paul, Minnesota operates 7am-open (vs competitor 11am opening), maintains machines in mint condition, offers coffee shop and brewery amenities, and is becoming Jon's preferred location for playing new releases

    high · Jon's extended praise of Bad Penny's hours, maintenance quality, and overall venue experience; willingness to drive 1.5+ hours despite cost

  • ?

    code_update: Foo Fighters received code update to version 1.03.0 adding new FooBot callouts (improved from being too loud), expression light kit support, topper functionality, additional Combatron mode, and another multiball

    medium · Jon's discussion of hearing the update at Bad Penny and relief at callout improvement: 'I was pleasantly surprised and relieved that the FooBot callouts... did not cause issue'

  • ?

    product_concern: Jaws Limited Edition has a design issue where the wire form on the center ramp wedges the ball between the wire and playfield, preventing consistent play

    medium · Jon's specific complaint: 'the wire form would like wedge it quickly... the wire form that then comes down to the playfield and loops around to the left flipper was either it was just too close to the playfield so the ball kept getting like wedged'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Complex rule-heavy games like Jaws perform poorly on location because players cannot invest the time needed to understand them, making first impressions misleading

    high · Jon's Skyrim arcade analogy and observation that Jaws requires learning rules over multiple plays to appreciate; initial disappointment followed by improved second session

  • ~

Transcript

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Hey kids, strap it on for the latest edition of the pinball...ah fuck it, good enough, figure it out. I played so much new pinball this weekend. Yeah, yeah. And it's been a long time a coming. That's what she said. I played Jaws, I played Pulp Fiction, I played Labyrinth, I played Jaws Pro and Premium, and then a few classics that I just always want to play, such as Ghostbusters and Iron Maiden and Walking Dead Pro, Jurassic Park, Stranger Things Premium, and I guess, oh, surprise, surprise, someone who does a pinball podcast was playing pinball, but it's been a while since I've gotten a chance to play pinball. I'm here to venture out of this town and play some pinball at a great location. Which leads me to a few points, but I chuckle because things I've brought up in the past of why don't you just go play on location instead of buy and sell games and buy and sell and trade and give and because fucker, all the good locations are a ways away. Anal싸 слово sólo digo rápido para para recoger a atahren a He technician prefer a sait eettvert lines dozeń at I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get through the games fast or whatever, but I feel redeemed. A little monetary example here of why going on location to play new popular pinball machines is not always the most intelligent thing to do. All the games I just mentioned I played that I want to get into shortly, I had to play at a place that is not local. The closest place to me that has the newest, hottest, good shit is, well, in my opinion, The best place for me to go to is Bad Penny in St. Paul, Minnesota. Also part of Starcade and this brewery that I don't remember. But anyone in the area, Wisconsin, Hudson,Minneapolis, St. Paul, if you don't go to BadPenny to play pinball, you're missing out on some greatness. The next closest for me is tiltpinball, which is about another half hour away. However, Bad Penny has so many more things going for it than tiltpinball, in my opinion, for me. First and foremost, aside from it being slightly closer, it is about an hour and 20 minutes from me, Bad Penny. That is from getting in my garage and going, like full everything. I consider my time value, my personal time value is roughly $100. Give or take depending on what I'm doing, but that's just my gut check when I think about what is my time value for doing things. So let's just say it's a three hour round trip to go to get Bad Penny, right? That's 300 bucks. That comes into play shortly, but let's just, let's start with that. Going back to how great Bad Penny is and what it has going for itself and me, first and foremost, the time. But I'm willing to do it when I want to play a handful of games. The other thing it has going for it is it's hours. It opens at 7am. Thank God. I'm not sure what a lot of these pinball places are doing opening up at like 11am tilt. No offense. Well, maybe slightly. Nothing against the business tilt is fantastic. Mind you. Okay. As far as game quality and what they keep in there and all the owners and the people that run it tilt a plus not that bad penny to me though. Opens at 7am and as someone who's 41 And normally wakesupatabout530AM, if I normally, you know, for me, go to the gym, go to work, do my thing. If I'm going to go to tilt on the weekend, okay, I get up, 530, I have oatmeal and protein powder and then coffee, half-calf, mind you, just because I'm sensitive to caffeine, so I wax away into my caffeine content, fuck off. All right, so then I'm done with that shenanigans by 630. If I go to the gym, that's seven. I come back by 830. All right, now I'm waiting. Well, if I drive, it's hour and a half. But this day was push, push, pull legs. It was my day off. So I woke up at 530. I didn't have to work out. I went on the treadmill for a half hour just to like, you know, get some blood pumping. But by 630am, I'm like, all right, I want to play pinball. I don't have to wait till 11am. I don't have to just sit and stare at the wall for five hours. I can drive to Bad Penny, where they treat their hours. To their clientele, which is adults, usually not 19 year olds that need to sleep until noon to until they wake up. No. So they wake up, they operate starting at 7am. Amazing. I get up, I go to Bad Penny. Oh, another thing, sorry, that they're incredible at their selection of games. The guy who maintains and runs them and buys them. I forget his name. Shit. Doc, help me text me. Remind me. Yeah, when you if you listen, text me what's his name? He's got dreadlocks. He's awesome as shit. I think it's Mikey. Some shit, maybe? Sorry. If he's listening or whatever, dude keeps. The point is, the games are in tip-top working condition, all mint, all connected to insider connected. It just, they're great. And the location is so nice. It's not a dive bar. It's not all dungeon-y in there and dark. It's a big open warehouse with a brewery in there, a fantastic coffee shop. And then the pinball machines are all located in kind of the central area. www. eloinsають趣 1600.backbox USBapp takecoach killslack arguing PassoverElmen Bey, presto Does mom have your L OURS, do I have asprRS multiplayerneni 형, Ben unbox them how do you pass someone we'll you have to speed up don't you right so I go in the right lane I speed my ass up driving a CX-30 turbo I say that just to go that's a really fun car especially on the highway the turbo really kicks in and you're good to go it's like for those wondering it's like the best in-between type of car it's not really a sports car by it's it's not but it's got a nice turbo it's got some good torque it's like 300 pounds feet of thumbnails opaqueposted video I was like, oh, do you know why I pulled you over? I played dumb. Nah, maybe I'll get out of it. You know, I don't. Well, I got you for speeding. You're going 78 in a 70. What's it say? No, no, it was 88. I mean, I was going, you know, I'm like, okay. And she's like, I noticed you slowed down as soon as you pass those two cars. You must have saw me on and then slowed down. She's trying to catch me and like I'm just some fucking, you know, criminal that I'm like, no, I was trying to pass those cars because they wouldn't move over. And then I slowed down to drive responsibly. You know, my I, you know, what, you think gang-banging drug addict self was all up all night fucking meth and I drove to play pinball at Bad Penny Arcade, it's a nice place to be, and then drove back to Eau Claire, Wisconsin at 41. Wait, yeah, no, I'm out here just causing mischief, passing people at 88 and then oh my god, a fucking copper! Nah. So I explained, I didn't try to like defensively, but I just said, Nope, I just passed those two cars because they weren't moving over. And she even knew. She's like, Oh yeah, yeah, they were going a little slow. Right. No? She's like, Well, I'm gonna have to cite you for it. And I'm like, Okay, cool. Fuck me. Right. Great. So for those wondering, a speeding ticket is $250.90 in the state of Wisconsin for going 18 miles over the speed limit. So I got that, which is great. $300. Translated by Knapp, Knapp, and Knapp. And so, it's $550, another $2575 with the coffee. $575 to play a few games of pinball. That's why I buy and sell games. Okay? I think she did she the trooper is is who I'm referencing when I say she I mean I don't think she identified as a man does that happen if a cop comes up and if they look like a maybe shouldn't get into that please please call me sir not ma'am I did call her ma'am I thought she might say it because I live in 2024 and the woke scares you every second especially as a white man you don't know what to say so that's scary but she did invert inadvertently I'm going to go with car fart. This is what I think someone should make. Maybe I could, someone, but it's a button in your car to hit when you, in this case, I'm a little bit of a criminal myself, doing a slightly illegal, I mean technically illegal thing, but totally like, who gives a shit? Like what? I get pulled over? Okay. Well, I have no control over the situation, but I want the officer to feel some of that. You know, I want some control in the situation. So you hit the car fart button. What does it do? It makes your car suddenly smell like shit. Like diarrhea. Out in the face with a just cloud of shit that is The value the buyer of the car fart technology would get you get this little bit of like okay because what is a cop gonna say I mean

high confidence · Jon's retrospective: 'Jurassic Park, the first time I played it... I don't fucking get it... behold, eh, it's my favorite game'

Jon @ Foo Fighters pre-update discussion — Jon's specific complaint about original Foo Fighters callout volume before code update

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Walking Dead Progame
Ghostbustersgame
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Straight Down the Middlemedia
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sentiment_shift: Jon's taste in machines evolves with play experience; Jurassic Park went from confusing/disappointing on first play to becoming his favorite game

high · Jon reflecting: 'Jurassic Park, the first time I played it... I don't fucking get it... And, uh... it's my favorite game'

  • ?

    product_launch: Foo Fighters released new accessories including topper and expression light kits, with accompanying code updates to support them

    high · Jon: 'Foo Fighters just came out with the topper and expression light kits and all these new accessories... code to version 1.03.0'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Jon realizes Barrels of Fun (on Labyrinth) has demonstrated capability to produce machines as high quality as Stern and Jersey Jack Pinball

    high · Jon: 'Barrels of Fun... could absolutely make American Pinball machine as good as Sam Stern and Jersey Jack Pinball. That's what I learned'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Pulp Fiction features exceptional mono audio and Mega Man X-style flipper feel compared to Stern's typical snappiness; American Pinball achieving different but equally appealing control characteristics

    medium · Jon's detailed flipper analysis: 'a different kind of Sam Stern level of snappiness... Mega Man X on Super Nintendo'

  • ?

    collector_signal: Jon uncertain whether to prefer Pro or Premium versions of certain machines (Walking Dead, Ghostbusters) based on specific mechanical features, playfield density, and shot consistency trade-offs

    high · Jon's extensive Pro vs Premium comparisons, noting Premium easier but different mechanical experiences (magnetic slings, ramp steepness, shot return behaviors)

  • ?

    operational_signal: Bad Penny Arcade maintains all machines in 'mint' condition, keeps them connected to insider system for code updates, demonstrates professional maintenance standards

    high · Jon praising: 'dude keeps... The Games are in there tip-top working condition, all mint, all connected to insider connected'

  • $

    market_signal: Road trip cost of $575 (including speeding ticket) demonstrates economic friction of location play versus ownership for serious enthusiasts; reinforces Jon's preference for buying/selling machines

    high · Jon's detailed cost breakdown: '$300 [time value] + $250.90 [speeding ticket] + $25 [coffee] = $575 to play a few pinball machines'

  • ?

    design_innovation: Jaws' Flip Lock mechanism is intuitive and exceptional, representing innovative mechanical design despite other criticisms of the game

    high · Jon: 'My biggest takeaway positive from that game... The Flip lock... Man, The Flip lock is fucking awesome. If I would have known the rules, probably would have felt better'

    • 11:45
    They they have like two seconds and you get to watch this to really think like oh my god. I just smelled shit It smells like fucking hell Do I go like, oh, pew, like, what? Huh? You can watch them squirm knowing that it stinks or two, they have to try to like, you know, save face and like an officer of the law, the stink does not bother me. Shit has no bearing on my attitude here, sir or ma'am.
    12:10
    So you get a couple seconds of seeing like, what do you mean? I know, you know, it's, you know, it's fucking stinks. Mind you, you also have to smell it. It's kind of like bear spray, like you have to pay a little bit of a cost to really get them. I guess if you were trying to make a sale, sell to whoever. Basically, any time a cop pulls you over, you hit this fucking button. The cabin of your car instantly smells like shit, and the cop who's going to write you this $250 ticket at least has to smell your shit. I would buy it. I know a few people who'd buy it. If you would buy it, I'd give you it. If you'd buy it, I'd give you it. I'm going to give it to you. I'm not going to buy it right into pinballpartypodcast at gmail.com, but essentially I would just like some of these coppers to just deal with that. Good luck. Fuck. So I get pulled over. I don't get to make this trooper smell shit. Car fart wasn't invented yet. We're making that now. $575 later. I have some impressions of pinball machines, so let's fucking get into that. Labyrinth and Jaws were the two most anticipated for me during this trip to Bad Penny. Neither have I played in the past. And Jaws, of course, it's Elwin's new game, which is selling like hotcakes. And selling like hotcakes at one of the best places to buy pinball machines, the only place to buy pinball machines, in the US of A, that place is Flippin' Out Pinball. When I buy my pinball shit, I buy from Flippin' Out. Yeah When I bought my pinball shit, I buy from flippingout from top as our blades premiums, I've got it figured out flipping out figured out When I think of pinball, I think flipping out
    14:06
    Flipping out figured out When I buy buy buy I buy from flipping out All the pinball stuff you could ever want from machines to accessories from people who give a shit flipping out pinball. Zach, Nicole, Greg, Zach's dad, Zach's uncle, Zach's cousin, five of Zach's kids, two turtles, and a rabbit will assist you at flipping out pinball. All right, let's talk impressions of the games I played. In order, Labyrinth was the first game I played. I'm a fan of the movie. I'm excited to play it. I love the vibe. It was a lowkey kind of... It felt like a fairy tale. You know? Playinging it. The music... The little... I don't know what any of the things are called. I've seen the movie like once. The little fucking goblin things. The things that pop out. Like little shits. Those little fucking guys. I'll buy her gargoyles, couple things poking out. Does that work for you? You like this audible medium of me describing something I don't even know the name of? Yeah, okay. Thanks for listening. The vibe was really cool. The playful, jovial, just melodic, kind of relaxing tone of the whole thing. I did not know the rules. I didn't spend a ton of time. I never do the first three to five games of any game. You know, it's shot feel. Let me just soak it in, see if anything stands out. And the things that stood out, aside from what I mentioned, were a couple of shots felt tighter than I would think they would be. Like the main left ramp was a little like, I fucking hit it like once out of three games, four games. And if I did hit it, it wasn't super satisfying. So there's that. The right shot, the right ramp was super satisfying and I hit it 90% accuracy. So that was great. The horseshoes in the middle, hitting the horseshoe on the right side. Now picture like the Star Wars for those who haven't played Labyrinth or if you haven't, a horseshoe. I hit the right side fairly easily. The left side in Labyrinth was, jostled the ball out quite easily. So not as smooth. The orbits were somewhat easy to hit, which is a good thing. And that little Scoop? Is that scoop in between the horseshoe? It's hard to describe over an audible medium again, just use that phrase twice, sorry.
    16:49
    The game, look at the game. Fucking pull it up on your phone if you want. Long story short, only the right ramp really felt good to me. The flippers seemed a little not, not soft, weak, JJP style, but like, not quite there. I really liked the video screen that was like underneath the video screen right above the playfield under the glass. It's hard to explain, but this thing in the back board was really nice. I don't know if I ever started multiball. The rules might be intuitive, I guess, if you look it up. It's intuitive when you know it, right? So I didn't really follow the rules much. I was surprisingly just like, okay, that's nice. I'd play it if it was locally a lot more to learn it more. I walked away from it more negative than I thought I would. And not really negative, just less enthused. Negative is not the right word. As far as like a first pinball machine from a company, A triple plus. Unbelievable. There's no bugs. Everything's just worked great. It looked incredible. Yeah. I mean, in that context, home run. Shit. Absolute home run. If it was a theme I cared about more so, yeah, it would just be whatever. So anything, I say the like somewhat negative walk away from it because that was one that since the beginning I'm like, oh my god, this has the potential to be like fucking one of the best, one of the greats. And maybe it will when, you know, truth be told, when all is said and done and the dust settles. And maybe playing it at home, you know, I'm different. I'm more than anything barrels of fun could absolutely make a pinball machine as good as Stern and JJP. That's what I learned, if anything. Like, okay, I'm going to keep paying attention to this. It wasn't where you sometimes you play a game like one I'll talk about shortly and be like, you know, that's not the one I'm about to say. But the next game I played was Pulp Fiction, but I've played it before in the past. But this is the first time playing it since having David Teal on the show and talking to him about audio on the I'm not going to go into too much detail about Pulp Fiction, but I remember the first time I played Pulp Fiction at MGC Midwest Gaming Classic for those unaware and was blown away. It remains incredible. The music and the audio tie for me on what stand out the most in that game, just like before, with the color scheme, the right word, the vibrance of the colors on that game, both from a playfield, a sculpt, At paling cones Baldwin Pete S которой, vào For mono signal audio in a pinball machine. Jesus Christ. It's so good. And the game is great. I love the flipper feel in that game, which it's like a different kind of stern level of snappiness. It's just a different flavor of it. I've used these kind of comparisons in the past a few times, but if Mario or Mario three is like a nice barometer of YQuéjú 기릿ıld��팝נSur,awi Şujobęrespondnáčkę C apprenticeshipSTARTè,AMT I'm going to say Mega Man X on Super Nintendo, but anyone who's aware knows like those games feel great and Sterns notoriously feel great to play. The controls of pinball should be the number one barrier of entry or the number one barometer again, and Pulp Fiction has it in spades. But I've played Pulp Fiction in the past and loved it. I have, yeah, I want one. I, uh, yeah, I want one. Um, man, what a great game. After Pulp Fiction, I went to play Jaws and I, I don't know what, is there hype about it? I was gonna say, I don't know what the hype is about it. I don't get it. Um, I get, I didn't learn the rules again. A couple parts I did, you know, how to start a mode and get multiball. A couple of the shots feel great.
    21:53
    The center rampy horse... Center rampy? You know, center ramp feels great. The right orbit slash ramp feels great. The chum bucket is a nice little bashy. The upper playfield, every time I got up there, just kind of flew off or fell down. It was fine. I like the... That's it. I... It... Like, it had the Elwin flow to it. A lot of cool shots. I did get multiball and got to play with the lock, flip lock, which is neat. It's actually very intuitive.
    22:31
    Yeah, my biggest takeaway positive from that game were those two shots I mentioned and the flip lock. Man, flip lock is fucking awesome.
    22:41
    If I would have known the rules better, probably would have self-healed cuz there's a lot going on in that game a lot so
    22:50
    You know that's one of those it's unfair on location to just here's an Ellen game with so much shit in it It's like playing Skyrim in the arcade You know hey I at the arcade What do you want to play if please Skyrim put 50 cents in it and play 5 minutes of a game that you beat in like 80 fucking hours Or go play Breath of the Wild in the arcade I mean you going to walk away from either of those games Like eh it not great Maybe even Dark Souls Pick a long playing video game or something that basically shows its value when you invest time in it And I think Jaws is like that So walking away Unimpressed is not unimpressed from Keith Elwin or the game he made, but as a location-based game, Jaws didn't do much for me. Is that a you problem as in Stern as a for a product or is that a me problem? The person that spent $575 to play some pinball.
    23:49
    Maybe it's a it's got a big target on it because it's Jaws, you know, and it's by Keith Elwin of maybe I'm subconsciously like I better find a negative reason for this. I'm trying to make this better than the previous one. It's not a good idea. It's a little bit of a joke. But let me tell you a very objective negative for this game. For me, when I played it, yes, the fin, the moving fin was cool. It was a great little, you know, pause and hit the moving fin. Great. I hit it like once. Surprisingly harder than, yeah, you think. And I've heard that before. Which made me self-doubt my ability as a man and a pinball player. So, thanks. But the negative was, so the center ramp that you hit, is it a ramp that, you know, vertical up? Oh, vertical ramp comes right back at you. Super consistent to hit that easy shot, great shot. The wire form that then comes down to the playfield and loops around to the left flipper was either it was just too close to the playfield so the ball kept getting like wedged between the wire form and the playfield. Yeah, I mean it was on an LE, I said premium earlier but it was an LE, a jaws LE and so I would hit that shot and the wire form would like wedge it quickly AƒVo Yuxing Arashi broken Antrim objet Antrim jch
    25:57
    Singapore I played three games of Ghostbusters, only had to pay for one. You know, replayed the shit out of it. Yeah, hit the ramp, hit the left flashies, and then you hit the multiplier and then continue. That's how you play that game. So I played some Ghostbusters, played some more Ghostbusters, and then I went back to the Jurassic Park Premium. Don't mind if I do. I'll play a little Jurassic Park. Again, cleansing that This Week in Pinball It's just the reality of it. Walking Deadpro would definitely own again. From owning The Pro twice and The Premium once, I don't even know which one I would take. I might go back to The Pro because The Premium is somewhat easier. No, it's very much easier than The Pro. And The Pro is like nasty hard. They're both hard games, but The Pro is just like fuck. When you want to just get raped you know, which isn't often. I can speak for myself. This Week in Pinball, Game of ThronesFELIPE in backbox that is backlit during play incarcerations veggies kimchi. I was getting out of pinball and whatever. I want it back. But, um, God, Foo Fighters. It is so good. Oh my God. And Bad Penny, because they're badass, already had it updated to the newest code, which was a godsend. Because from seeing the new code, I was like, oh, my God. I'm the internet and hearing the new call outs. I was so disappointed with the call outs on the video. To the fact where I messaged Ray Day on the side like, hey, can you turn those down? You know, I don't want to hear them ever. They sounded so bad and loud. The new FooBot call outs for those unaware of what I'm talking about. Foo Fighters just came out with the topper and expression light kits and all these new accessories. So code to boot. Foo Fighters code 1.0. 3.0 which they added a lot of new callouts.
    29:21
    I would assume topper functionality as well. Through those callouts and another Combatron mode and anothermulti-ball. Forgive me I don't have in front of me because for me what I cared about most was the expression lights even though they were there in the past. Anyways I digress. The FooBot callouts sounded just like way too loud and they're putting, they have some sort of You're watching Artsbirth.com and you can find they re all webcasts at www.outspace. preoccupcosmic등to, Bazaar, Coinbook, and Facebook www. separated options, chambers or http://www. coordinateperformanceoftime. realised.gu.jpg friends of��ή低 weldingcommittee fearlessathちゃん meren ohLevioletjenincão alcoholic
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    I was pleasantly surprised and relieved that the FooBot callouts, which give you good direction in the game, better direction, maybe even needed direction on some of the things, at least from my brief experience, did not cause issue. Was not cause for alarm. But goddamn, that game is still so good. All public opinion Scimesan кол € Pole swell 누 versus There's modes, there's a couple multiballs, you can stack them. There's a couple secret modes is not the right word, the combo tron stuff, building the foobot. A couple little extra like, yeah, get some pieces and do this shit. One of the multiballs is very easy to get, the other one's a little more difficult. You know, the right ramp. And the right ramp to qualify that other more, I should say, difficult multiball is a difficult shot, but when you hit it, you feel like a god. The game is so good. That's one of those, you just leave the lights and the music off and I'll just hit the shots. That's fine. Eh, why not? Don't even need to hear it. Because sometimes I don't want to hear it. I want to hear other music. Foo Fighters. At a Toys R Us near you, go find it. I did look at, uh, they had a Venom. I was like, oh, cool, is it a Venom Pro or Premium? If it's a Premium, yeah, cool, I might want to play it. You know, I walked up, it's a Premium. Oh, yeah, cool, nah, I don't want to play it. You know. So that was my internal dialogue with Venom. After playing all those games, I went back to Jaws Limited Edition version and played it more and somewhat had a somewhat better I don't know. I reserve the right to enjoy that game in the future. If it was local to me, I would spend time reading the rules, go play it more, and yeah. To the point where I'm like, okay, I'm satisfied. I've played it enough, which is like Avengers where Avengers, first few times you hit the shots, like, man, this game's awesome. Maاذ Onnia, I have a better chance than a lot of games that'll switch the old mind around because Jurassic Park, the first time I played it, same thing. It's like the second ball. I'm like, I don't fucking, I don't get it. I, you know, sometimes it's your mindset. It's just, it's subtle things. I don't know. It's just Jurassic Park wasn't it for me. And I was so sure in the beginning and lo and behold, eh, it's my favorite game. And, uh, it's, yeah, I was about to defend saying it's a favorite game. Your favorite games can change. And I think right now, given the choice of the pinball teleporter into my house, not having to go pick up games and then when someone needs to buy them take them away Basically the ease of access to pinball machines If I could have three pinball machines in my room right now that what I getting at Fin I'm looking behind me right now. What would I want to go up and play right now? Hit start.
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    First would be Foo Fighters, for sure. Go play Foo Fighters. I'd be like, God damn, this is so fucking good. And then anytime I've been done with Foo Fighters, it's never because the game I'm like, I don't fucking like this game. It's never that. Sometimes I get sick of the music as a Foo Fighters fan. Again, you know, I need a little break. Or yeah, it's more like I've paused for now, Foo Fighters. I'm pausing you, bro. I'll be back. No hard feelings. Next game would... yeah, I guess fuck it'd be goddamn Walking DeadPro. Oh that game's nasty. It's so good. But nasty. Because of the three drop targets in Jaws made me just think, man, I wish I was hitting food and first aid. You know, I wish I was going for bloodbath right now. Man. Not chummin'. I don't want to chum. I want to go for bloodbath. But I would assume from seeing Keith Elwin's This Week in Pinballedsiębior, Game of Thrones unintaignulate. Terms of conversation. Terms of conversation. It's Ghostbusters. Yeah. So, to recap my bad penny and now current orgasmic state of pinball, it's Foo Fighters, Walking Dead, let's just say Pro, and Ghostbusters. The funny thing about Ghostbusters, if I turned around, I'd want it to be a premium. Yeah.
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    I've owned the Pro a few times and I love the Pro. Study Behavior upid very she's it would be a pro the administrative patrol the left ramp is this shit super make a bull and потом cluttered the slammer so much better the propay series cheeses it so much better in the pro the priming for surprised premium stock bones and i'm you fuck get off the met the digit a there i don't wanna hit that think anyways i wanna uh... you know alan epic the skill shot that makes me just start a motor That's no Fn Johnny Damn, sorry, uh, getting to it. Might have to record one solo or a couple, um, because just been busy. Yeah, so busy with work. But thank you for your patronage, really. Patreon.com slash pinballparty. Go get some deep dives there. Um, we're picking back up soon. Getting there. Um, Ghostbusters. And the left ramp on the pro is great, a little better than premium, and it's, the playfield's a little easier to see in the back because I'm not all the shit. Slimer, fuck you in the premium. All right, we got that far. But there's a couple things on the premium I like. I actually like the magnetic slings on the premium. Yeah, I'm sure you're shutting off the podcast now but I actually like them a lot because it adds in, I don't know. To me, it's novel because I've had the pro so much. So it's kind of a new toy, the magnetic slings that shove the ghost ball all around. It's cool and it's a game about ghosts. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do this. I'm just going to be able to do this. It's fucking awesome. Yeah. I love it. The main ramp on the premium, it's steeper. It's harder to do super lupins. Not as hard. It's not as consistent. But I like on the premium how it goes down into the subway and comes back up. It's a small thing, mind you, but I'll take it. The Ecto Goggles on the right, is that what they're called? Take it or leave it, but it looks real fucking cool. And the right ramp, the other big difference between the two models. The right ramp. I love hitting the right ramp on the Pro a lot. It's really neat when it goes all the way back up the ramp. For those who know, there's like these rollovers, there's three of them when you hit the right ramp. If you know, you know on the pro. It's awesome. But it's also awesome on the premium when you hit it and it quickly fucking whips back at you to the left flipper.
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    Which is a different, you know, like on the pro when you hit the right ramp with the left flipper, it comes back to the right flipper so you can't hit it again. For like PKE mode, I forget, or is that alternating ramps? This isn't a Ghostbusters deep dive, but yeah Yeah, Ghostbusters. Stern's Ghostbusters. Let's remake that shit. It's a Spike game, right? Yeah. So, that and oh shit! And Game of Thrones. Another Spike. Forgot to mention. I have a Game of Thrones in the other room. Yeah, I have a game right now. Game of Thrones. Been playing that. Game of Thrones is pretty awesome. It's a very Steve Ritchie game. The rules, I mean they're deep. I'm going to read this one to you guys. It's a football game that's very deep, but they're also very, very simple. Choose your own adventure. Choose your house. It's a game that is at the right price for like six grand or a little under. I think it's a pretty great package. That's what she said as well. Terms receptorsındaki P editing tech army overseller Jose Gereggio Razaāh пис, KTPA Media Interactive Carolina���intendent parisian This Week in Pinball waterfallардifornantine And remembered to take a picture of the Yes, backfire time. And then Walkingpendead, I think that game needs a reskin or just a re-like, yeah, make it again, just different paint. Hopefully it's John Wick, just make it Walking Dead or fuck man, what else can you do? Just put out Walking Dead again. Call it the same thing. I don't care. Retheme it. Shit. Game is so good. And the rules, the depth of those rules hold up. Put insider connected. I'm walking dead. God damn. That'd be awesome. But yeah, Spike 3 will come out soon enough. Maybe it'll update a couple of those old games. And who knows? Maybe Jaws will move up the ranks in my personal ranking next time I play it. When we get it locally, who knows? All right, well, it's late for me. I have to do my job, which is strange to say. Thanks for joining the pinball party. Thanks for listening to me talk about Strangely enough, this episode of the show is up to an hour long and is about to end. If you enjoyed it, please give the show a follow on Facebook or Instagram. But we do want to thank you for doing that. We'd appreciate it if you could give this show a follow on Facebook or Instagram. That would be great. Or even better, give it a rating on Apple Music or Spotify or wherever you listen to it. Give it five stars. Give it one star. Give it something. Show your support by just clicking it. Use your thumb, go down there, just click. That'd be awesome. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you taking the time to listen. Thank you for the patronage and your support. I hope you have a great next week, and I'll see you next week. Have a great day. Bye-bye. Bye.
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    To the patrons out there, we'll get a deep dive coming soon. And yeah, everyone have a good one. We'll talk to you later. I met a stranger by the docks Dirty clothes, moles and his sockscks And I was sickened by the joyful look we had in his eyes And I don't wanna be surprised when I'm on this degree I don't wanna be dead wrong, I'm better than streetwise degenerate I know none of my friends see the jealousy Streetwise degenerates I don't mind.
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