Episode 342 - 1978 Bally Galaxy

For Amusement Only EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·14m 34s·analyzed·Feb 16, 2016

Analysis

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TL;DR

Nick Baldridge analyzes Bally's 1978 Galaxy bingo pinball, praising innovation but criticizing its unconventional playfield layout.

Summary

Nick Baldridge provides a detailed technical and design analysis of Bally's 1978 Galaxy, an unusual bingo pinball machine with non-standard playfield layout (24 holes instead of typical 25), innovative moving numbers feature (sistered columns), and ball return mechanics. He discusses gameplay complexity, odds structure, artwork theme, and expresses uncertainty about whether the game would be a keeper despite appreciating Bally's continued innovation in bingo design.

Key Claims

Galaxy is the follow-up to Miss Universe and uses a 24-hole playfield instead of the standard 25-hole layout
high confidence · Nick Baldridge opening discussion of Galaxy's basic design
Galaxy features a unique moving numbers system where columns are sistered together and move in tandem, unlike magic lines features on other games
high confidence · Detailed explanation of Galaxy's moving numbers feature mechanics
The game has no ball return mechanism in its standard design, making it play like a one-ball game except for the ball return feature
high confidence · Nick Baldridge's playfield analysis: 'The biggest thing, which I see now and had forgotten up to this point, is that there's no ball return'
Diagonal scoring on Galaxy only counts when a specific 'diagonal score' lamp is lit, and all diagonals pay out at four-in-a-line odds maximum
high confidence · Feature discussion section regarding diagonal mechanics
Maximum odds on Galaxy reach 768 for five in a row, which is higher than many other bingo games
high confidence · Odds discussion: 'your odds on this game go up to a max of 192 for three in a row, 384 for four in a row, and 768 for five in a row'

Notable Quotes

“Galaxy is kind of the follow-up to Miss Universe. And if you will recall from my podcast about that, it is a very unusual bingo pinball.”
Nick Baldridge @ ~0:30 — Establishes Galaxy's position in Bally's bingo lineage and signals its unusual design
“If you take an experienced bingo pinball player and put him in front of Galaxy, they're going to be confused.”
Nick Baldridge @ ~4:30 — Emphasizes Galaxy's non-standard playfield layout as a barrier to experienced players
“This game has a moving numbers feature. It is unusual. It was only used in this game and it works like the magic lines.”
Nick Baldridge @ ~5:30 — Identifies Galaxy's sistered moving numbers system as unique to this title
“So this game plays like a one-ball except that you have the ball return feature... essentially this game is a great way to take your money and you've really got to make your numbers in order to make this count”
Nick Baldridge @ ~17:00 — Critical observation about Galaxy's punishing playfield design and lack of standard ball return
“It proves to me that Bally was still trying to innovate and experiment with the bingos this far into 1978.”
Nick Baldridge @ ~19:00 — Contextualizes Galaxy within Bally's design philosophy during the late bingo era

Entities

Nick BaldridgepersonGalaxygame Ballycompany Miss UniversegameTurf KinggameSurf ClubgamePalm SpringsgameFor Amusement Onlyorganization

Signals

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design_innovation: Galaxy features a unique moving numbers system where pairs of columns are mechanically linked and move together, rather than individually like traditional magic lines. This system was reportedly used only on Galaxy.
high · Nick Baldridge: 'they sistered every two columns together... you have A, B, and C... it's going to move those two columns, which are sistered together, up or down one position in tandem'
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design_philosophy: Bally chose to implement a non-standard 24-hole playfield on Galaxy (and Miss Universe) rather than the established 25-hole configuration, creating a novel but potentially confusing player experience.
high · Nick Baldridge: 'Most of the Ballybingos were a 5x5 grid... For Galaxy, they changed the layout... Galaxy has another one-off play field that's only 24 holes'
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gameplay_signal: Galaxy's playfield design heavily punishes mistakes due to lack of standard ball return mechanism and non-standard number arrangements (9, 8, 22, 6 instead of familiar sequences), making the game high-risk for players.
high · Nick Baldridge: 'there's a lot of ways to lose on this game... the game plays like a one-ball... essentially this game is a great way to take your money'
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product_concern: Galaxy's non-standard playfield layout confuses experienced bingo pinball players, and the unusual feature mechanics and number arrangements create a steep learning curve.
high · Nick Baldridge: 'If you take an experienced bingo pinball player and put him in front of Galaxy, they're going to be confused'
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design_philosophy: Galaxy represents Bally's continued experimental approach to bingo pinball design in 1978, attempting novel mechanics (sistered moving numbers, ball return, diagonal scoring gate) despite late-era production timeline.

Topics

Galaxy game mechanics and designprimaryBingo pinball playfield layouts and innovationprimaryMoving numbers and sistered columns feature mechanicsprimaryGalaxy artwork and cabinet designsecondaryBally's late-era bingo experimentation (1978)secondaryComparison to other bingo games (Miss Universe, Surf Club, Palm Springs)secondaryOdds systems in bingo pinballmentioned

Sentiment

mixed(0.55)— Nick Baldridge respects Galaxy's innovative design and Bally's willingness to experiment, but expresses significant reservations about playability, punishing mechanics, and whether it would merit collection space. He is intrigued but doubtful about personal ownership.

Transcript

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What's that sound? It's For Amusement Only, the EM and Bingo Pinball Podcast. Welcome back to For Amusement Only, this is Nick Baldrige. Tonight I wanted to talk about Bally's 1978 Galaxy. Galaxy is kind of the follow-up to Miss Universe. And if you will recall from my podcast about that, it is a very unusual bingo pinball. The idea on Galaxy, like many bingo pinballs before it, is that you want to make three, four, or five in a row in one of four different colors. You have red, yellow, green, and blue. Now, each of those has a different set of odds, and as with all bingo pinball machines, your odds are key in understanding and playing the game. You drop in your first nickel, or quarter at this point, we're coming towards the end, and the game will reset. it will set your odds to the default, which in this case is 4 replays for 3 in a row, 8 replays for 4 in a row, and 32 replays for 5 in a row. For those of you that have been listening for a long time, you'll know that those 5 in a row odds are very low, especially for what a feat it is to get a 5 in a row. So we'll talk a little bit about why those odds might be so low here in a little bit, but your odds on this game go up to a max of 192 for three in a row, 384 for four in a row, and 768 for five in a row. So the max odds are actually a lot higher than they are on many of the games for five in a row. That's kind of weird. So, you put in that quarter and you get your default odds, the 4, 8, and 32, and at that point you can shoot, or you can try to play for an increase in odds, all the way up to that 768, or for additional features, or for both. And you do this with pick-a-play buttons on the front of the cabinet. There's a red button that plays for both features and odds, a green button for features only, and a blue button for odds only. So, what about these features here? Well, it's unusual. Most of the Ballybingos were a 5x5 grid, and then you had 25 holes on the playfield. and getting the balls into the appropriate holes, you would get three, four, or five in a row on the back glass, and that's how you'd win. Well, for Galaxy, they changed the layout. And if you'll recall, from Miss Universe, there's only 18 holes. Galaxy has another one-off play field that's only 24 holes. Now, if you take an experienced bingo pinball player and put him in front of Galaxy, they're going to be confused. So, let's talk about the features. This game has a moving numbers feature It is unusual It was only used in this game and it works like the magic lines So, again, if you've been listening for a while, you know that magic lines allow you to move one column of numbers up or down one position. Well, in this case, they sistered every two columns together. So the first two columns are one line, second two columns, another line, and then the last two columns, a third line. So you have A, B, and C. What happens is when you push the A, B, or C button, it's going to move those two columns, which are sistered together, up or down one position in tandem. You can't move each column individually like you can with pretty much every other Magic Lines game. So that's unusual. the other major feature of this machine is something that they call the ball return and this works kind of like the hold feature the hold feature, if you'll recall, allows you to hold only the odd numbers that you've hit or only the even numbers that you've hit, but the ball return will allow you to return either the left half of the bingo card, the first three columns, or the right half, the second three. And the way it denotes this is with either blue or green on the back glass. So as you hold down the left button, it'll say return all in green. And the actual bingo card has a light shade of green on the left-hand side and a light shade of blue on the right. so this game is is pretty unusual you're only allowed to use the ball return once very much like the hold feature unlike surf club where you can use it twice you know you only get one shot more like palm springs this game also has a lamp that shows up that says diagonal score when lit so you know how i mentioned that there were an awful lot of diagonals and it made an interesting pattern on the bingo card. Well, guess what? You don't even get to win on them unless you have the feature lit. That seems a little interesting because your max payout on any of the diagonals is going to be your four in a line odds, not your five in a line. None of the diagonals amount to more than four in a row. So that moving numbers feature, just like many of the other moving numbers features, does have a time tree, and the default is before fourth. So before you shoot your fourth ball, you have to pick the final position of each of those sistered set of columns, and then once you shoot, it's locked in place. This game also has before 4 5th and after 5th. On top of all that, it's got the extra ball feature. You can pay for a chance at up to 3 extra balls, so you have a total of 8 chances to get a 5 in a line. Now let's talk about the good points. I kind of opined while I been doing this about the gameplay and I never played one of these so in all fairness this may be a fun player and I just don know But from appearances, it looks like this game gives you a lot of chances to shoot yourself in the foot. First of all, sistering together the columns of numbers into moving together is kind of tricky. So, if you think about the 20-hole games with the Mystic Lines feature, you have columns which are sister together, but what they do is swap positions. They don't actually move up and down together, you know, in step with each other. They swap with each other. This gives you the ability to put something in another place that's going to be pretty helpful. In this case, it allows you to move your numbers into a different row or a different diagonal arrangement, but not all of them, because there are only two diagonals you can hit with any given set of numbers. So, on top of that, because diagonals don't score by default, well, there's a lot of ways to lose on this game. I'll just say that. If you are good at making your numbers, and again, because this uses a non-standard play field, it's going to be different, a challenge. on top of that it doesn't use the same arrangement of numbers that you might be used to from playing a 25 hole bingo so instead of the familiar 9 1 2 11 you have 9 8 22 6 and those are quite different numbers uh that are much more challenging to hit that 22 of course you got to swing all the way down to the bottom of the playfield, and there's a lot of peril in doing that. I mean, it's dangerous. So let's talk about artwork. The Backglass on Galaxy is a space theme. You've got a really futuristic-looking spaceship on the upper left-hand side, the word galaxy right in the center at the top, and a sun over to the right. Behind the bingo card you have kind of a spiral design, which kind of resembles an interpretation of a black hole. Each of the features, odds, and other indicators on the back glass appears to be flying out at you, which is a cool effect. the cabinet is blue and it's got a spaceship which is weaving a yellow trail all the way across the bottom of the cab and up through the head and i've talked before about how much i love the bingo stencils and the way that they unify the artwork across the cab and the head and this one has what I think is a pretty neat stencil It not super detailed but I do like the spaceship and there are planets or stars not sure which which litter the landscape that the spaceship is flying through So looking at the playfield again this appears to be a plastic playfield that Bally switched to here towards the latter days of production, and the design is fairly plain. There's no special graphic, but the design is evocative of the rest of the artwork. It uses shades of blue and circles to denote far-off planets or stars, and each of the numbers jumps out at you, much like the text boxes on the back glass. I think that's cool. Um, like I said at the beginning of the episode, what I don't agree with is this particular playfield layout. You've got one of the all-time weirdest designs, I think, for a playfield layout. The biggest thing, which I see now and had forgotten up to this point, is that there's no ball return. so this game plays like a one ball except that you have the ball return feature so essentially this game is a great way to take your money and you've really got to make your numbers in order to make this count because if you miss then you wind up in another hole or just hanging out at the bottom of the playfield Weird. So, with the Turf King that I picked up, I have a newfound appreciation for the one-ball horse race games. And this kind of plays like a one-ball from appearances, except for the fact that you can shoot five balls, first of all, and also return some of them. Just unusual. I would love to give this game a shot. That said, I don't know, without playing it, if it would be a keeper for me. And I have to say that there are so many games that I have played that I would love to have in my collection that I don't know that this one would make the cut. But it is certainly interesting, and it proves to me that Bally was still trying to innovate and experiment with the bingos this far into 1978. so there is that to recommend it so does anybody out there have a Galaxy? let me know how you like it I'd love to hear opinions I certainly have one but I'm sure there are some who hold the opposite opinion so I'd love to hear about it let me know thank you very much for listening that's all for tonight my name again is Nicholas Baldridge you can reach me at 4amusementonlypodcast.gmail.com or you can call me on the bingos line at 724-BINGOS1, 724-246-4671. You can listen to us on iTunes, Stitcher, Pocket Casts, via RSS, on Facebook, on Twitter, at Bingo Podcast. You can follow me on Instagram, also at Bingo Podcast, or you can listen to us on our website, which is foramusementonly.libsyn.com. Thank you very much for listening, and I'll talk to you next time.