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John Day shares collection stories and restoration philosophy on Classic Pinball Podcast.
Steve Young at Pinball Resource is the single most important figure in saving pinball through parts reproduction.
high confidence · George and John speaking to the value of Steve Young's work recreating Gottlieb parts and supplying manufacturers.
Adonis Family Williams flipper mechanisms are superior to the Linear flipper system used in early 1980s Bally games.
high confidence · John Day explaining engineering rationale for WPC flipper retrofits on Eight Ball Deluxe.
John Day spent approximately one year calling Jeff Wager at Pinball Warehouse every Saturday morning looking for Addams Family.
high confidence · John Day recounting his persistence in acquiring Addams Family, which eventually arrived in February after snowstorm.
Twilight Zone machines now command $10,000+ for nice examples, up significantly from the ~$2,500 John paid in 1998.
medium confidence · Dave and John discussing current market pricing for Twilight Zone vs. historical acquisition cost.
John paid approximately $2,500 for a mint Twilight Zone in 1998 at Pinball Warehouse.
high confidence · John Day recounting his Twilight Zone purchase story.
“He has done more for Pinball than I can think of anyone else in saving it. And making all these parts, making all these Gottlieb parts. He actually recreated the parts and no one else was doing that.”
George or John @ Mid-episode — Emphasizes Steve Young's critical role in the pinball hobby's sustainability.
“Everything was broken on this 8-Ball Deluxe. Like the, you know, everything was broken. The coils were burned. The end-of-stroke switches were all burned up. Everything was horrible on the game. So you had to take it all out of there and put something in it.”
John Day @ Mid-episode — Justifies John's rationale for WPC flipper retrofits on classic machines.
“The game is so precise. It's like surgery when you hit those flippers because there's no slop. And they're so powerful.”
John Day @ Mid-episode — Describes the improved gameplay feel from WPC flipper upgrades.
“I did. I said, how much cash do you need? You want it done. You're going to buy it as is?”
John Day @ Late episode — Shows John's immediate decision to purchase Addams Family when it finally appeared.
“Every week. Because that's how much I really wanted Adam's family.”
John Day @ Mid-episode — Illustrates John's persistence and passion for acquiring Addams Family.
restoration_signal: John Day describes systematic retrofitting of WPC flipper mechanisms into classic Bally/Stern games from early 1980s (Eight Ball Deluxe, Flash Gordon, etc.) for improved durability, availability, and play feel. Positions Linear flippers as inferior engineering.
high · Extended discussion of WPC conversions, rationale about coil strength, stroke length, parts availability, and comparative engineering merits vs. Linear system.
supply_chain_signal: Steve Young of Pinball Resource, legendary parts supplier for Gottlieb machines, recently retired. Transition to new coordinator Lou underway. Community expresses concern about potential void in parts availability.
high · Hosts and John Day discussing Steve's retirement, noting transition to Lou, expressing concern 'what's going to happen when that happens?' and gratitude for Steve's irreplaceable contributions.
collector_signal: Twilight Zone machines have appreciated dramatically from ~$2,500 (1998) to $10,000+ (current), reflecting scarcity and collector demand for high-quality examples.
high · John's recollection of 1998 purchase price and Dave's current market assessment of $10,000+ for nice examples.
restoration_signal: Pinball Life (Terry DeWitt) and Pinball Resource enable restoration through custom WPC flipper mechanism kits with configurable coils and end-of-stroke switches, reducing need for period-correct sourcing.
high · John describing custom configurations available from Pinball Life and how this reduces restorer burden vs. original sourcing.
community_signal: Strong community advocacy for Steve Young's legacy and recognition of his irreplaceable role in pinball's survival. Hosts note that 'people still piss on him' despite his contributions, suggesting interpersonal friction.
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high · George stating 'People still piss on him, though, and it sucks' and both hosts expressing deep gratitude and defending Steve's reputation.
content_signal: Dr. Dave's YouTube channel dedicated to pinball machine reviews and restoration showcases has gained positive feedback but remains modest in subscriber count (~600s) relative to content quality and effort.
medium · Dr. Dave noting surprise that channel is 'not in the thousands yet' and 'only in the 600s' despite positive feedback on game portfolio videos.
restoration_signal: CPR (Custom Pinball Restoration?) playfields for games like Eight Ball Deluxe are now out of production, requiring collectors to source from secondary market of unused stock.
medium · John describing need to purchase unused CPR playfield from another Pinsider because 'CPR, the playfield had done its run, and there were no more available CPRs.'
collector_signal: Sustained weekly contact (one year of Saturday calls) with supplier Jeff Wager demonstrates collector dedication and eventual payoff when desired machine becomes available through normal supplier channels.
high · John's year-long weekly calls to Pinball Warehouse resulting in Addams Family acquisition when it arrived 'this morning' after snowstorm in February.
restoration_signal: John Day's restoration includes full cabinet rebuild and cosmetic work (stenciling, painting) in personal wood shop for machines like Kingpin, reflecting serious collector-restorer commitment.
high · John describing Kingpin restoration including cabinet rebuild in his wood shop and custom backglass from Shea Esthag.
venue_signal: Regional arcade venues like Fun-O-Rama and Playland in Hampton Beach, NH and Mount Washington Hotel in New Hampshire served as important pinball discovery locations for collectors in 1990s-2000s.
medium · John describing childhood visits to Hampton Beach arcades (Fun-O-Rama, Playland) and encounter with Addams Family at Mount Washington Hotel basement.
design_philosophy: John Day applies electrical engineering expertise to restoration decisions, preferring WPC mechanisms for engineering merits (robustness, adjustability, parts availability, coil power) over period-correctness in most cases.
high · Extended discussion of Linear vs. WPC engineering tradeoffs, coil mass, stroke length, parts sourcing, and wear characteristics.
market_signal: Fast Eddie, specialized pinball transport provider, has recently retired, potentially creating service gap for collectors needing long-distance machine delivery.
medium · John mentioning 'Fast Eddie retired recently' and praising his transport services used for Eight Ball Deluxe acquisition from New Jersey.