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Episode 253 – Overrated

Slam Tilt Podcast·podcast_episode·2h 6m·analyzed·Jul 20, 2025
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TL;DR

Slam Tilt interviews RPC owners about custom circuit boards and arcade operations.

Summary

Ron Hallett and Bruce Nightingale host Jared Whetstone and Brian Glod from Rochester Pinball Collective to discuss their custom circuit board products (optical trough sensors for Flight 2000/Nine Ball and speech synthesizer boards for classic Stern games), their arcade venue at 349 West Commercial Street in East Rochester NY, and various pinball restoration projects. The conversation includes technical deep-dives into EM stepper repair, Viper board challenges, and brief commentary on recent game releases and Spooky Pinball's production/distribution strategy.

Key Claims

  • Rochester Pinball Collective is located at 349 West Commercial Street, Suite 2965 in East Rochester, New York (not Allentown, Pennsylvania)

    high confidence · Brian corrected Jared's initial wrong answer; this is the official location stated by RPC co-founder

  • Optical trough sensor board solves a recurring Flight 2000/Nine Ball tournament problem where balls slip past flimsy wire forms and fail to register drains

    high confidence · Jared explained the specific design issue: 'if that hadn't been there, we never would have gotten Flight 2000' and described tournament occurrence frequency

  • RPC's optical trough sensor board uses reflective optical sensors rather than transmissive ones, an uncommon approach that works well in this trough design

    high confidence · Brian detailed: 'there wasn't really a way to refit a regular opto into the trough design...so we tried to use reflective optical sensors'

  • RPC's speech synthesizer board for classic Stern games (Flight 2000, Lightning, Orbiter One, Split Second, Freefall, Catacomb) eliminates the hiss/background noise of original boards and removes the loud 'bong' startup noise

    high confidence · Brian explained replacement design: 'It gets rid of a lot of the hiss or the background noise' and discussed the 'bong' issue

  • Flight 2000 is the most common classic Stern game, followed by Meteor at #2 and Stars at #3 in sales volume

    high confidence · Ron and guests discussed top-selling classic Stern games with Brian confirming Flight 2000 prevalence

  • Spooky Pinball's Scooby-Doo machine did not sell out, but Evil Dead sold out 100% with secondary market prices inflated

    high confidence · Bruce: 'Scooby-Doo didn't sell out. Evil Dead did. 100%. People are overpaying trying to get Evil Dead now.'

  • Spooky Pinball's next game (after Evil Dead) is rumored to be Beetlejuice, with distributors placing pre-order lists without requiring deposits

    medium confidence · Bruce: 'the only rumor I've heard is basically it's Beetlejuice...Pretty stoked and pretty solid on that' and 'distributors now are taking...put on a list'

Notable Quotes

  • “It's a bad design. You know, it's just a wedge that's been cut into the play field. I think, you know, a more modern trough design where they drop in, that works out a lot better when you've got multiple balls.”

    Brian Glod (RPC) @ ~mid-episode — Technical criticism of Flight 2000/Nine Ball trough design that motivated the optical sensor board product

  • “Almost exclusively during a tournament.”

    Jared Whetstone (RPC) @ ~early-mid episode — Emphasizes the critical timing of the ball-slip problem, validating tournament necessity for the sensor board

  • “Scooby-Doo didn't sell out. Evil Dead did. 100%. People are overpaying trying to get Evil Dead now.”

    Bruce Nightingale @ ~late episode — Market signal about Spooky game demand disparity and secondary market inflation for Evil Dead

  • “This game has something in common with the King Kong Data East prototype?”

    Ron Hallett @ ~mid-episode trivia segment — Referencing classic pinball history comparisons in game design discussion

  • “It's fucking killing me, that game.”

    Ron Hallett (about Viper turret issues) @ ~late-mid episode — Expresses frustration with recurring Viper board contact/slip-ring issues affecting reliability

  • “If someone's truly desperate, we can help you out, I guess.”

    Jared Whetstone (about EM stepper relay board) @ ~mid-episode — Indicates RPC willingness to help with custom EM repairs, positioning as community resource

  • “We really don't have any money...We are self-sustaining. Yes, if you value our time, it's worthless.”

    Brian Glod and Jared Whetstone @ ~early episode — Candid admission about RPC's business model—labor-intensive, low-margin operations motivated by community rather than profit

Entities

Rochester Pinball Collective (RPC)organizationJared WhetstonepersonBrian GlodpersonRon HallettpersonBruce NightingalepersonSpooky PinballcompanyZachpersonGladstone (glodstone.com)product/website

Signals

  • ?

    business_signal: RPC operates as self-sustaining but labor-intensive operation with minimal profit margins; hosts and founders acknowledge time investment as essentially unpaid

    high · Brian and Jared: 'We really don't have any money...We are self-sustaining. Yes, if you value our time, it's worthless...It's a lot of work'

  • ?

    community_signal: RPC positioning itself as specialized repair resource for niche pinball problems (optical sensors, speech boards, EM steppers); offering spare prototype boards to community members 'if someone's truly desperate'

    high · Jared offered help on EM stepper issues: 'If someone's truly desperate, we can help you out' and discussed motivation for product development from customer demand

  • ?

    community_signal: RPC providing custom EM stepper relay board solution for Little Chief/Royal Flush games with problematic steppers; planning Rev 2 design with improved engineering approach

    high · Jared described problem-solving: 'We had to make a circuit board...we have this giant board that barely fits...must have, like, 24 relays' and noted prototype improvements planned

  • $

    market_signal: Evil Dead sold out 100% while Scooby-Doo did not sell out; secondary market experiencing price inflation on Evil Dead units

    high · Bruce explicitly stated sell-out status and secondary market dynamics; suggested Ron could profit by selling Ghostbusters Premium similarly

  • $

    market_signal: Spooky Pinball implementing pre-order list strategy without deposits for next game announcement; distributors (Flippin' Out, Pinball Star) advertising list sign-ups

Transcript

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0:00
Boy, these new engines just purr like a kitten, I tell you what. Now, where the hell are those two son-of-a-bitchin' bastards? Pull over!
0:14
Are you boys looking for Buford and Bernardo? Get out of the car! Make a T! Make a what now? Pull over!
0:25
I wouldn't take that attitude if I were you, officer. He's got a gun! Coming to you from upstate New York, this is the Slam Tilt Podcast, a show about all things pinball. I'm your host, Ron Hallett. Here's my co-host, fucking cunt, Bruce. How's it going? Oh, good day, eh? How you doing, man? We're here from the Great White North trying to get everything going, sir. The Great White North. That's Canada. Yeah, because I'm the Canadian co-host. Oh, yes. I have no idea. Bruce told me to do Australian. I'm Canadian. Oh, you're Canadian, eh? Yeah. Eh? Take off, eh? Say process or something. Process. Okay. Aluminium. Wow.
1:19
Okay, so process, right. This is episode 253, and we apologize already. I apologize. Bruce made me do that. Our lawsuit is going to work great. I'm suing them in New York State and Small Claims Court, and we're going to win money. Okay, what are we talking about before, in case people have no fucking clue what you're talking about? Our ball bag. Yeah. Final round. Final round podcast. And they took my ball bag. They used our terminology. Yes. So we sent them a cease and desist letter. From the lawyers, yes. And I guess on the recent episode, which I haven't heard yet, they've said something about it. They took our ball bag. They took our repair segment. Oh. They don't do repairs. Yeah, exactly. Jeff doesn't even know how to open up a game. What are you talking about?

  • Chainsaw Massacre and Looney Tunes share identical playfield layouts with different artwork and rules, produced by Spooky Pinball to avoid retooling costs

    high confidence · Discussion of Spooky retheme strategy: 'they also rethemed it as Looney Tunes. So both play fields are exactly the same layout'

    • Flight 2000
    game
    Meteorgame
    Nine Ballgame
    Vipergame
    Looney Tunesgame
    Evil Deadgame
    Scooby-Doogame
    Rick and Mortygame
    Alice Coopergame
    Beetlejuicegame
    Lightninggame
    Orbiter Onegame
    Mike Dimasperson

    high · Bruce noted: 'distributors now are taking...put on a list for whatever Spooky's next game is' with examples of Flippin' Out and Pinball Star advertising lists

  • ?

    personnel_signal: Jared and Brian both experienced in Stern classic game design; Jared brought in by Silver Ball Saloon operators to co-found RPC; relationship dates to 2018

    high · Ron: 'Bruce, I think Brian and I first met you in 2018?...at Silver Ball Saloon, yes...they're the ones that actually wanted me to come in on the RBC'

  • ?

    announcement: RPC's speech synthesizer board for classic Stern speech games (six games total) available for $125; no price increase since post-COVID; eliminates background hiss and startup 'bong' noise of original boards

    high · Jared listed all six compatible games and discussed technical improvements over original boards; pricing confirmed on Pinside listing

  • ?

    announcement: RPC's optical trough sensor board officially available for purchase at $70 on glodstone.com and Pinside marketplace; proven in field use for 1+ year on Flight 2000 and 7-8 months on Nine Ball

    high · Brian and Jared discussed product availability, pricing ($70), installation requirements, and demonstrated field performance with tournament use

  • ?

    product_strategy: Spooky Pinball using playfield reuse strategy: Chainsaw Massacre and Looney Tunes share identical playfield geometry with different artwork and rules to avoid retooling costs

    high · Hosts discussed retheme economics: 'they also rethemed it as Looney Tunes. So both play fields are exactly the same layout, just with different artwork and different rules'

  • ?

    rumor_hype: Spooky Pinball's next game is Beetlejuice (after Evil Dead); community consensus is solid on this title

    medium · Bruce: 'the only rumor I've heard is basically it's Beetlejuice. Yeah. Everyone seems to be pretty. Pretty stoked and pretty solid on that.'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Bruce expressed strong negative reaction ('Oh, no. Oh, no.') to Zach's Looney Tunes purchase, but acknowledged positive theme fit compared to Chainsaw Massacre despite underlying game quality concerns

    medium · Bruce's immediate reaction to Looney Tunes announcement was negative, but later acknowledged 'the theme fits better with it' and 'the artwork actually is really well done'

  • ?

    technology_signal: Viper turret/slip-ring board design uses 1960s-70s era 'fingers' contact technology creating persistent connection issues; multiple units (Ron's, Sanctum's, Mike Dimas') experiencing identical failures

    high · Ron detailed problem: 'I still don't know what to do with that' and confirmed other owners (Sanctum, Mike Dimas) have same issue; Brian acknowledged design obsolescence

    • 2:07
    Key? What key? Huh? But we have guests, don't forget. Yeah, we did forget. We totally forgot about that. Totally forgot about that. They're returning guests, though, Bruce. They are returning guests and with new rolls. New rolls? No, a new product. And new roles in pinball. And they have roles in pinball. Yes. Okay, who do we have, Bruce? These are members of the, not members, these are owners. They are owners. Of the Rochester Pinball Collective. And we're going to ask them where it is. Yeah, where is the Rochester Pinball Collective, guys? In Allentown, Pennsylvania. Oh.
    2:47
    Wow. That's a fail. Okay, Brian, your turn. 349 West Commercial Street in East Rochester, New York. Suite number 2965. Wow, see? He nailed it. Jared did not.
    3:07
    Oh, it was a test. It was a test. Why don't you introduce yourselves because we only got random first names there. Yes.
    3:18
    I'm Jared Whetstone. As Bruce said, one of the owners of RPC. and Bruce, I think Brian and I first met you in 2018? Yeah, probably. Yes, at Silver Ball Saloon, yes. Absolutely. Yes, and they got me. They're the ones that actually wanted me to come in on the RBC. Oh man, it's their fault. It's their fault. I was a little gun shy after the Silver Ball Saloon and they're all like, oh come on, let's all do this together. I'm glad we did, totally. I really am. I'm totally glad we did this, you know, even though sometimes, you know, it's hard. It's a pain in the ass, and, you know, sometimes it feels like we got nothing out of it. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work, but it is working out for all of us. Hey, think about it. We really don't have any money.
    4:10
    That's always a good thing, you know. We're always making enough. Yeah, we are self-sustaining. Yes, if you value our time, it's worthless. The time is worthless. It always is. Like when you're restoring a game or putting all the money into that game to make it work good on the floor. That is just gravy. That's just the other money that you just want to piss away. That's all it is. And we also have Brian. Yes. I am Brian Glod, another co-founder of the Rochester Pinball Collective. And, yeah. But that's not all. They also build boards. That's true. We do. We got a couple of them now. Well, I mean, should we start off with a history? Go for it.
    4:57
    I would say that the history of us making any circuit boards for Gamespruce is, I'll go out and say it's really because of you and that GammaTron that you had at the bar. If that hadn't been there, we never would have gotten Flight 2000. and then if you look at the two things that we sell now, you'll see, oh, you guys exclusively make parts for Classic Stearns. What's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with that at all. Nothing wrong with that at all.
    5:29
    Exclusively for Flight 2000. No. Flight 2000, Gamitron, and... Because Gamitron will take both. That's right.
    5:42
    Nine Ball, right? Nine ball is the third game for your new product. Yeah. So the board that we've just made, it's an optical trough sensor that will fit on a nine ball or a Flight 2000. And the whole reason it even exists is because when a ball drains too fast or in just the right way, It will slip past the flimsy wire forms in the trough on those games and will not register the drain properly. And it will inevitably always happen during a tournament.
    6:22
    Almost exclusively during a tournament. Yeah. It's such a hassle. Yeah. So we do use both of these boards. Yeah, we do use both of these boards at the RPC. and they've worked out really, really well. I like it a lot because at least now it's not passing a ball, not sitting there idle going, hello, what do I do now? Like you get people coming over to you before, it was like, hey, the ball's just sitting there. You're like, ugh. So there you go, open the glass, and there you are fondling the balls. And trying to figure out what the hell is not registering. Yeah. Sucks. So, the, you know, not to poo-poo the design of these games, I think they have some of the earliest multi-ball troughs in existence, and it's terrible. It's a bad design. You know, it's just a wedge that's been cut into the play field. I think, you know, a more modern trough design where they drop in, that works out a lot better when you've got multiple balls. on these old games, it doesn't work well. Yeah, like Monard stuff uses optical sensors rather than the little flimsy switches.
    7:44
    Yeah, so on this board, there wasn't really a way to refit a regular opto into the trough design. You know, almost every opto used on every game is a transmissive opto, right? The ball passes through and it breaks a beam and registers that the switch is hit. So we couldn't really do that on this board, so we tried to use reflective optical sensors, and we thought it might not work very well because nobody else seemed to be doing it that way. But to our surprise, inside the trough, it actually seems to work great.
    8:24
    It does. I'm very happy with it because there's a lot less crap I have to open up in the RPC. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we've had it running for, what, like two a year now? A year for almost longer than a year now for Flight 2000, and then the nine ball has been about eight months, seven or eight months, I think. Yeah, yeah. And then you told us that other people actually wanted these. Yeah. So that's when we made up a batch and stuffed them on the website. Yep, and I know you sold a couple to one to, what's it called, Past Times Arcade. Oh, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. What is the website? Oh, it's gladstone.com, G-L-O-D-S-T-O-N-E. And you can also get them on Pinsight. We have a little marketplace shop there, too. I think a lot of people just like to buy it through Pinsight because it's easy, and I think they get a lot of their other stuff there, too.
    9:24
    Yeah, right. Is it called the same thing on Pinsight? Yeah, yeah, it's called Gladstone. Or, you know, optical trough sensor. I think it's one of the – there's only a couple things that will show up when you search for that. I'm looking at right now the optical trough sensor. First, flight 2009 ball. This optical trough sensor board replaces the dual microswitches and bracket found under the trough of flight 2009 ball. Reflective sensors operate more reliably than the original microswitches and eliminate the possibility of a draining ball slipping past the switch wire and failing to register, which happens once every stop tournament on my night. Installation is a direct connection of current switch wires to terminals. Power is supplied via nearest GI lamp circuit. Soldering required. A must-have item for tournament play.
    10:18
    Buy now. $70. Ron, you should put together just a whole infomercial. There's an asterisk next to the price Let's see It's 8.8 sales tax on New York orders International orders Please contact us directly The package includes the sensor board The board mounts, spare diodes One feet of wire, screws And the connection guide Solder, solder guy are not included It's good that you actually It's bad that you have to do that But it's good that you actually do that We don't want to set people up for failure. No. We want everyone to be happy.
    11:00
    I thought a soldering iron was included. I thought it was just going to have alligator clips. It also has adjustable sensitivity. Sensitivity can be adjusted individually for each sensor with two single-turn pots. Because I can't say the whole word. The whole word. Orange LEDs indicate when switch is closed.
    11:20
    What is it? Pot ten-nemers? Put potentiometer. Potentiometer. There we go. See, that's why I couldn't say it. See?
    11:28
    I knew a word that Ron didn't. Yeah. Yes. I was just going pots. I didn't even know it was a full thing. Yeah, potentiometer. Ah.
    11:38
    Yes. I'm picturing you keeping track of those words, and the count is now one. One. Yes. One. A little whiteboard in the background.
    11:48
    Yes. Win. I would figure now, have you sold more of these for Flight 2000 or for Nineball? We don't always know what they get. Since it's the same part, so I'm going to say. Yeah, it's the same part. But I think there's definitely a few that have gone to Nineball, even though I feel like that's a much more rare game. It is way more rare than Flight 2000.
    12:13
    What did you forget? What did Jared forget? Oh, when we put the product on the Pinside website, I don't think there's a field for what game is this going in.
    12:25
    Ooh. We did that for the PSU. And it's actually kind of cool because we'll get random entries for, like, Orbiter 1 or, I don't know, Lightning. You know, like, just games that aren't as common as Flight 2000. Or good.
    12:45
    Yeah, well, that's fair. Well, I mean, there's probably more Flight 2000s than all other classic strains combined. Except Meteor, but yes. Except Meteor. It's two. Yeah. It's number two on the list. What's number three?
    13:00
    Stars? Yeah, Stars. There you go, baby. That's why there's so many stars. Yeah, baby. But, yeah, so tell me your other product that you brought up on episode 157. Five years ago. Damn. I know. Five years ago. Wow.
    13:20
    So long. Yes. Right? Before RPC even existed. Mm-hmm. But the other product is a speech synthesizer board for classic Stern games that had speech.
    13:34
    Not a lot of those games either. But, yeah, that was our first sort of adventure into making replacement boards for these games. I think part of the reason we made it is because at the time, you really couldn't get a speech board if yours died. And if you could, there was no guarantee it would work. And it's mostly because there was one chip on it that is completely obsolete and nobody actually makes a drop-in replacement for it. So we had to sort of redesign the board from scratch and base it around a little more modern PIC microcontroller. to decode the ROM and create the speech. And it's actually worked out pretty well. And the thing I really like about that board is that it gets rid of a lot of the, like the hiss or the background noise that the old board would just, you know, it was very present when it was plugged in.
    14:37
    And so when you turn it on, sometimes it will go bong, but this one does not. Like the R replacement does not make the bong noise. If you do it fast enough, it will still bonk, but it's much quieter than the very jarring bonk. It's almost System 3-level squeal, but, I mean, not as high-pitched. It could be pretty loud.
    15:00
    You're talking about the original one, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. How would that board go for? Well, I'm looking right now. Let's see. That board goes for...
    15:14
    making Ron work. Yes, you're making me work. $125. There you go. Which now post-COVID is like, wow, that's a good deal. Yeah, we haven't changed the price on that since. Should it go up? No.
    15:34
    Here you go. Support for all six original games with speech. Bruce, can you name them, Mr. Cern? Okay, so we have Flight 2000. We have Lightning. We have Orbiter One. We have, hold on, I've got to turn around and look at one of my games in the basement.
    15:53
    Split Second. Freefall. Uh-huh. Well, only one more, and you've owned it. I've owned it? Yeah. Well, GammaCon. No. That's experimental. It's not one of these original. Catacomb. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, very good. Bruce did good at a trivia thing. Yay! Two for two today. Boy, I'm knocking it out of the park. You really want to impress me? Yeah. Okay, after stars, what's the fourth highest selling classic Stern game? Ooh. I might get this. I would never get the fifth one, though.
    16:28
    Four? Hmm. Magic? No. Brian or Jared? Did you get a guess? Was it on this list? No. It doesn't have speech.
    16:46
    Nugent? Actually, the top five only play 2000 has speech. Okay, Nugent? You already had your guess, Bruce, and it's not Nugent.
    16:57
    The number four, Classic Stern? Mm-hmm. Yep. Is it Trided? No. So it's just Brian now. Oh, geez. I'll give you a clue that's totally... Bruce might get it. Okay. At the back of the Meteor back box, it says, like, Meteor by Stern. There's one other Stern game that actually says that in the back box, the title of the game by Stern. There's only two of them. Yep. And I believe they were made consecutively. Yes, they were. Is it a wide body? No. Oh, no. I can't even guess Okay, Bruce Nope, nope, I'm going to let you say it Iron Man Classic I had to Google It's Galaxy For some reason for those two games the back of the back box some of them will say Meteor by Stern or Galaxy by Stern What's five? That one I would never ever get it was Zach's first classic Stern.
    18:12
    How well you know our Zach's games. Oh, Stingray. No. Dracula? No. Okay. Yeah, Dracula's good. Here you go. Oh, well, Bruce, he might have got this. I don't know if Brian or J. will get this. Let's see how good you are with pinball history. Oh, God. This game has something in common with the King Kong Data East prototype?
    18:42
    You even lost me on that one. Yeah. What kind of clue was that? The King Kong prototype. What did it have on it that was weird? Long flippers. Yeah.
    18:54
    Oh. Yeah. What stern has a really long flipper? Oh, the hot tip. Oh, so close. You had the wrong hot. Hot hand.
    19:05
    as the rotating huge flipper up top. Oh. Wow. I would have never got that in a million years. That was $3,793. That's why you can always see them still for sale.
    19:21
    The other ones are closer. That is a drop down because you got Galaxy's $4,900, Starz's $5,100. Then we jump up another $1,200 for Flight 2000. But then the king of them all, of course, is Meteor. at 1600, showing once again that licensed theme, Cell, because I'm sure that's why that's so, because of the huge Meteor film.
    19:44
    Yeah. I wondered that when I first saw Meteor, if it was based on the movie. Yeah. It actually says it on the back last. This is like American International Pictures or some shit on there. Yeah, it does. Yeah.
    19:56
    So, guys, you have made one other board for the RPC privately. I want you to talk about this a little bit. Yes. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that board. That board is hilarious. Yeah. So this is a good story. That's why I wanted to bring this up. This is how good of an engineer these two are because they had to make something. This board's an embarrassment. It's not actually as good as an engineering.
    20:24
    Hey, Jared, I've got Rev 2 planned. See? Is it somehow smaller and less totally stupid? I think it will be. I do have a little trick up my sleeve.
    20:34
    Yeah. So, we have a Little Chief, and Little Chief has its little bonus saucer in the middle that advances one through six and kicks out the ball when it lands in it. The problem is that it uses one of those Little Williams mini-steppers. It uses the mini stepper that is similar, if not exactly the same, as the one that would be used for the match that's in the back box to do score match for any replay. Little Chief is in EM. Yeah, Little Chief is in EM.
    21:14
    So the stepper that was in ours, it was broken. and it's not really repairable. The thing that's broken on it is this kind of clip that does the advancing and it's this little plastic piece that articulates and it has a spring and the metal was just snapped and the pieces were missing and then I realized I couldn't actually get a replacement for it. I'd have to find some game that still had one, cut it out, and then, you know, sacrifice it. so because coil power runs through this thing and if people here aren't familiar with what a stepper unit is because they've never seen the inside of an EM it's essentially a disc with wire traces on it and as the action advances it spins and then changes the set of electrical contacts that it's sort of wiring in the game You can do it. It's like a little, I don't know, like if you take your fingers and you hold them out, and there's like five little contacts that spin around on a little axis.
    22:26
    And every time the solenoid fires, it just makes one rotation. Yeah, well, it like ratchets. It clicks forward or backward, depending on the device. And so because there can actually be a substantial amount of power going through this, and because it's AC, and it's not at like 5 volts or whatever, it's at 24 or 50, or it could depend on the game, we actually had to make a circuit board that, oh, this stepper unit has two sides, and there's one common connection and 10 outputs on each side. So there's a lot. And there's also a cam that goes on the shaft that can have a switch on it, too, which could be normally open or could be normally closed. And in Zach's unfortunate case, he has a game, Royal Flush, that uses a dual cam, which I didn't know existed. So we didn't design it into this board, and we can't use it to fix Royal Flush. But the way that we solved this problem was by taking one little power relay per connection. And now we have this giant board that barely fits hanging under the cabinet that must have, like, 24 relays on it to accommodate all the possible wiring connections. It's not pretty, but it does work. It works well.
    23:50
    So if anyone has one of those problems and they're a little cheap, come to Brian and Jared. Yeah, we actually might have a couple spare boards that we made in the prototype run. If someone's truly desperate, we can help you out, I guess. Yeah, or we could maybe do a prototype of Rev 2 and see if that's any better. How are you solving that problem? I don't know. Secret sauce, right? Oh, geez.
    24:19
    So you can actually get, like, analog multiplexer chips. but they're not designed to handle the power that even a lamp would use, you know, an incandescent bulb. So it's, you know, there's not a lot of great options for making this work when you have to. Not off the shelf, but you can, you know, elucidate this a little bit. There's, you can do it with discrete parts. And so I have a little simulation going that kind of proves that it will work in theory. So I might throw together a little prototype board and see how it goes.
    25:02
    Cool. Yeah. Very cool. It'll be nice to – because if you've seen this board, it is just hilarious. I mean, no, it's like the first one we made. We made it quickly just to, like, get Little Chief working.
    25:16
    I don't know. I don't think it's ever fucked up at all. That is true. It's very simple because it's been a black and blue. Yeah, pretty much. It's ridiculously big.
    25:28
    Yeah, I don't know if it's even possible to screw up. It's got a one-decade counter, I see, and some other little logic. There's nothing to go wrong on it.
    25:40
    Yeah, and then all these mechanical relays, which is great. Now I just get them to fix my Viper board. We'll be all set, guys. Come on. Start thinking about that. The spinny thing, right? The carrot thing? Yeah. God. Your turret is still bad. You might just have to put it down. No. Still need to put it down. It's a classic stern. We can't put it down. Do anything we can to keep it running. Yes. I still don't know what to do with that. It's so good. It is. But the problem is they used, like, 60s technology, 70s technology, 60s technology. They were behind even then. Yes. They're using fingers from an EM style just to, you know, have the connection for the board. And the board actually worked. Like, we can fix those. We can probably make the one board. But the other board is the bad one, the small, thin one.
    26:36
    Got to think of a way, guys. I mean, it's up to you. You're my only hope. The whole purpose of that board is to provide the connection while it rotates. Yes, and also giving a signal. If we could replace it with some other kind of slip coupling,
    26:54
    you could probably get an off-the-shelf one and maybe just get rid of it entirely. That's great. But I thought that part of the problem with that was if there wasn't enough resistance, that the motor spun too fast and then it kept going past where it needed to be. Then I think we can actually use more capacitors to slow down the motor maybe. That would be my next step. And we have an extra motor now to play with. Oh. Capacitors or resistors? I think he means resistors. Resistors, I mean, sorry. Yeah, but yeah. Just run it at a lower voltage and see if that helps. See if it slows it down. I actually had no idea if it was capacitors. I just felt resistor sounded like a more correct term for something that would slow something down.
    27:41
    Well, if you put less capacitance in it. Less capacitance? Yes, that is a word. Capacitance is a word. Ah, yes.
    27:50
    It is a word. I'm just trying to think the other way. I don't know. I would love if somebody has ideas.
    28:00
    I have the turret sitting on our bench, and I've just been staring at it coming back from a vacation. Oh, I'm just staring at the turret. Yeah, I'm like, I can't see this in my head. I'm like, go ahead, Darren. Do you know anyone else who has a Viper? Yes. And they have the exact same problem. No.
    28:19
    The Sanctum? Sanctum has one, yeah. And Mike Dimas. And he's trying to sell his. There you go, Bruce.
    28:26
    Yeah, he wants $7,500 Canadian. Yay. Take it off. Does that include the tariff? I don't know. But, yeah.
    28:40
    So, yeah, when I talked to the sanctum, well, the first thing is that board has been touched up by people, I think, in the past. They've added solder to the actual big board that the contacts touch. And I think it actually makes it worse sometimes. So they actually made it too tall in some parts. And then the fingers have to drop down. and I think that's where it's losing its connection.
    29:08
    Yeah, adding solder to those is terrible idea. Yeah, it's never consistent. No. We do have a drawing of the board, so if I just maybe just got a new board for that, but the problem is that top board is warped also.
    29:22
    Right. Yeah. So there's like multiple issues. I hope you don't be one, Kenobi. You're my only hope. If you did make a whole new board, you could get it on, like, an extra thick piece of FR4, and it would be extra rigid.
    29:38
    And then if I made the other board also, you could make the other board, but then you have to solder on the whole fingers.
    29:48
    Right. And make sure they're straight and make sure they're right, and then the wiring goes between one side. It's just like, oh, my God. But who knows? I might have to be doing that. It's fucking killing me, that game.
    30:02
    It's one of the projects now. I consider that a project game. It's in the project pile in the back, wrapped up. It is. I want to try to get through one of the meteors this summer. That's my goal. One of the meteors, yes. One of the meteors. And then after AFM, because AFM is all apart right now. But we'll talk about that in repair time. Repair time? I thought this was repair time. No, no, no. We're talking about repair time. It's technical talk. Ah, yes. Because we have two texts on it. You said one of the other meteors. Is this exclusive of your first meteor? No. No, the first meteor I sold. Well, hold on. First meteor, here we go. I've owned four meteors. So the first meteor I bought and I sold like six months later. The second meteor, which was at RPC, I sold to Chris DeSiglia.
    30:57
    Okay. So he bought my second one, and he still has it. And then three and four are in the back from the auctions I bought this past, like, spring. So I want to pull, once AFM is cleaned. Oh, my God, that is the most disgusting pig in the world right now. And we put the plate field protector on it. That will be today's project and build it back up. Then once AFM is done, I want to bring out one of the meteors to start working on one of them to get working and hopefully put on the floor again because I do miss Meteor. I can't believe you still have Meteor. Yeah, me too. I mean, the only reason you still have Meteor is to get a better Meteor. And I got worse ones. Yeah.
    31:37
    No, no, no. The play fields are actually pretty nice on these It was just that thing was cursed That cabinet was really really rough And one of my cabinets is rougher than the other one But now I have two So I'll have one for RPC and one for home, the way it should always be. There you go. I'll still never forget how rough that cheetah cabinet used to be. Oh, God. You mean Zach's cheetah?
    32:04
    Oh, is it Zach's cheetah? Oh, yeah, Zach owns that now. What do we think of Zach's latest purchase? I don't think the boys saw that. Oh, I didn't see it, but didn't he get an Oz? No. Or something else. He got a Looney Tunes. Oh, no. What? Wow, that's a great answer. That's awesome. Oh, no. First reaction is the best. That's the truest reaction of all time. Oh, no. I heard something about, you guys were talking about Looney Tunes just in general. I'm like, oh, that's kind of a garbage game. Actually, it's better than Chainsaw Massacre.
    32:42
    The theme fits better with it. Oh, we're probably like the old one, right? I think not the new one. No, no, no. The theme is better than Chainsaw Massacre. Right. You're thinking of Buzz's Funny Birthday, man. Yes, I am. No, no, no. I'm thinking of Buzz's Funny Birthday. It's actually Spooky's new, not new game, but they shared a... The disregard everything I said, yeah. No, still, no, you're totally right on it. But this first was Chainsaw Massacre, and then to make it so they didn't have to retool or anything like that, they also rethemed it as Looney Tunes.
    33:15
    So both play fields are exactly the same layout, just with different artwork and different rules. Does it still have a big knife in it? No. No, it has nothing. That's Halloween. Or Ultraman. And no, it does not. I don't think Ultraman has a knife in it. No, it does not. a blade it has a samurai blade no but it's you know I actually like the theme of Looney Tunes they have one at Pocketeer and I've played it a couple times I like the theme I like the guy they got to with the voice work he sounds very good I just don't like Chainsaw Massacre at all so it just was like I kind of like the artwork too it's kind of cool it is the artwork actually is really well done on it but it's still spooky Oh. Yeah. And now this is Zach's third spooky. This is the scary part.
    34:12
    So he still has the. Oh, yeah. That was Cooper, right? Yeah. No, he's got four. He has four now. Oh, yeah. You're right. He has four. Alice Cooper. Scooby-Doo. Rick and Morty. And now. Looney Tunes.
    34:27
    He is a glutton for fucking punishment. Rick and Morty is his place better than anyone I've ever played I totally agree it played better than mine I don't know how he got it that way I don't know if he did that I like Bruce just insulting him for having all these spookies when Bruce himself had a spooky I had one and I realized and I said one and done I've had one and now you're done no second one Oh, yeah, that's right. You bought a third.
    35:01
    I bought a third. Someday I'll get Evil Dead. It's not going to be anytime soon because they're in the 200s right now, and I'm like 800-something. Yeah, great. Yeah. Probably next year.
    35:19
    Yikes. That's actually the only news item I really had is the fact that the distributors now are taking – they're not taking money, but they're taking, like, put on a list. No, not even deposits. Just to get on a list for whatever Spooky's next game is. Why? They've all been advertising that. I know, but. I've seen Flippin' Out, Isaac, advertise that. I think Pinball Star did, too. Yes. You know, get on the list for Spooky's game, which won't be in us until the end of this year, but. Yeah. And why? Why are you? Guess what? Scooby-Doo didn't sell out. Evil Dead did. 100%. People are overpaying trying to get Evil Dead now. Ron, remember when you got that Ghostbusters premium and you sold it? Yeah. You should do the same thing. Make some money.
    36:09
    And the rumors, I mean, the only rumor I've heard is basically it's Beetlejuice. Yeah. Everyone seems to be pretty. Pretty stoked and pretty solid on that. That's what I've heard also. Yeah, that's all I've heard. I haven't heard any other titles. It's like, it's Beetlejuice. Like, okay.
    36:25
    I hope it's just Beetlejuice 1. Beetlejuice 2 sucked. Oh, I didn't see it. You saved two hours of your life. I didn't see the original either. What?
    36:37
    How come you missed the original? It's not a great movie. It's just an okay movie. The humor is the best part.
    36:43
    The humor is the best part. That's about it. But, yeah, Ron, Evil Dead. What did Brian and Jared think of all the new games that have come out recently? You guys get to see them all at RPC because somebody gets them. All right. I haven't been really great about seeing a lot of the new games because I haven't even played Harry Potter. Neither have I. I mean, they're not around here. Oh, no. I thought Pocketeer got one. They did. Yeah, I'm in Albany. Yeah, he's in Albany. Well, I'm five hours away. I'm not driving five hours. You can go to Utica.
    37:20
    Excuses, Ron. Excuses. Yeah, where's your dedication, buddy? Yeah. You got one in Utica, Ron. You can go out this weekend. Or when I'm at the Beast anyway in two weeks, I'll just play Harry Potter then. Yep. I'll hopefully get my money for that lawsuit then. Your lawsuit? Oh, from Jeff Teolis from stealing all our stuff, yes. Yep, stealing all of our ideas.
    37:42
    Good day. Hey, if he's convicted in your little escapade, Bruce, he might not be allowed in. Oh, yeah.
    37:54
    Just like Americans aren't allowed in when they have a DWI. I see how you're going with that, Jared. I like it. We'll get that money out either way. He'll have to settle out of court.
    38:07
    I love it. Nice idea. I love Jeff. I love taking his money, too. It's only like 75% of ours, but, you know, it's still money. I'll take it. Wow. Hey, Ron, you'll get like 50 cents on the dollar. I didn't know this was the Dash Final Round show. Of course it is. They passed us.
    38:29
    I haven't even heard of it yet. See, they said I was on too many cruises to worry about it. You do go on a lot of cruises. I do go on a lot of cruises.
    38:40
    Yep, two next year, maybe three. So no Harry Potter for you guys. Have you played Evil Dead? I have not played Evil Dead. I can't even work on it. I'm sorry. All right, I take back that stuff about you guys get all the newest games and play them. They half-played King Kong. Half-played King Kong. That game, it's different than I guess I expected. It's kind of, it's different in general. All the flowy bits, there's just a lot going on. I, oh. Did you play it yet, Brian? I have not played it yet, but I will say, so that's the newest Elwynn, right? Yep. It's the newest Elwynn. Yeah. And so we got Dungeons & Dragons because we're like, all right, fine, we'll get a game, right? We got Dungeons & Dragons, and then this game came out or was announced, and I'm like, oh, no, we missed another Elwynn. Like, damn it, we should have waited. Damn it.
    39:43
    Oh, but how's the dragons? Yeah, how's Dungeons & Dragons going? It plays really strangely. And then Mark found out that the play field was warped. And it was, like, not just, like, normal warp. It was real bad to the point where, like, there was a hump in the middle of the play field that was probably about, like, a quarter of an inch, maybe a little bit more, three-eighths or so, higher than the left and right edges. and so I contacted the distributor and they're like, well, Stern never replaces these things, but, you know, it's worth a shot, right? So I take a picture of it and I send it into the distributor and the distributor talks to Stern and Stern's like, all right, we approved a new play field. So we'll be getting a new play field for Dungeons & Dragons at some point. Populated or unpopulated?
    40:34
    Allegedly populated. Oh, that would be awesome. For sure. Wow. But the catch is that they want the old one back. Oh, of course. Yeah, no, I wouldn't mind. That's fine. That's totally fine because they'll send it in a crate. Yeah, use the existing packaging.
    40:49
    Honestly, it's simple. It's actually way easier. It comes in a crate. What you do is you take it out. You take off the connectors. You slide it all out. And you slide a new one in. You reconnect it, and it's boom, right there. It's so much simpler. They can harvest all the old parts. Exactly. And you can figure out what happened. Yeah. I hope it is populated for our sake. Oh, my God, it'll be so much easier. I requested it to be populated because I'm like, ah, it's a new game. I don't want to deal with it. No, you shouldn't. I totally agree. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure the replacement will be populated. Yeah, I mean, what is the typical timeline for something like that showing up? I've heard it can take almost up to a year. I saw some pin-side threads. Yeah, it can. It depends on how much of their runs are, if they're so popular.
    41:35
    You know, don't forget, their goal is to sell so many games. So, you know, if they have extra play fields around, that's when they might think in a slow week, they might go, hey, you know, here's a couple. Let's run 10 play fields or 15 play fields if we have any issues of some of them. Or if we have another run coming up, they try to pre-ahead, you know, like, oh, hey, look, two weeks down the road, we have Dungeons & Dragons premiums. We have time. Let's throw it on the line and start building since we have all the parts.
    42:03
    So that's how it kind of runs. But it can be. But I'm going to tell you guys, even though it's more in my interest also, keep on the distributor.
    42:12
    Don't let them forget. Who is your distributor for that? Be very quiet. You may not want to say that on the air. Yeah, I'm not sure if I should. But you know who they are, Bruce. Okay.
    42:26
    Speaking of play fields, I did hear supposedly they're going to fix the art for Harry Potter. I doubt they're going to be giving new play fields to any of the people with the original art no, won't they just give out a sticker and you just put it on a sticker of the dragon that would be awesome my large sticker Dick's dragon, there you go his third eye is gone ta-da in the past we've given you washers for play fields and everything else Now we're going to give you a Mylar sticker.
    43:04
    We're going to give you a five-color Sharpie set. You can go to town. Oh, God. That would be fucking awesome.
    43:13
    Oh, man. All right. Well, there's really no news. There is no news. There's good news like Gary. Good news.
    43:24
    Okay, that went over my head. Yeah, it's a lot. You didn't know that either? No. Fraggle Rock? That was past my time. No, it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't. I wasn't a little kid anymore when that was on. Fraggle Rock was on in 84.
    43:41
    See? That's not when I saw it on. I know, but it was 80. It was syndicated somewhere else. I didn't see that. Fraggle Rock was on. Was it on HBO or something? Yes, it was. That's probably why I didn't see it.
    43:55
    Fraggle Rock. I see I got you all. First episode was 1983, January. And final episode was 87. Well, there you go.
    44:08
    Let's see what I'm looking at here. We have a game. We do. We have a game for the Thin Ball Princess. Ooh. This is the game we played before, but now we actually have the bracket. Yes, we do.
    44:22
    And let's see. Let me bring this up. I guess I'm going to have to keep track of these. Damn it. Yes, you will.
    44:31
    Usually when we have Zach on, he keeps track of them. Yeah, Zach. But at least now we won't get to hear him typing over and over.
    44:40
    Yeah, exactly. Okay, this is the bracket for the most overrated WPC. For those at home, that's basically all the 90s Williams games. Yes. Now, are you counting all, like every variant of WPC? Like Alphanumeric or, you know, WPC 95? Ball Bowler? Are we doing Ball Bowlers too? No. Stop. That is not WPC. It's got Funhaus on here, so, yeah, it's got Alphanumerics. Okay. And it's got Cactus Canyon, so, yeah, I think it goes through the whole thing.
    45:16
    I want Puck Bowlers also because I think a Puck Bowler can beat some of these games. Do you think a puck bowler is overrated? No. A puck bowler can beat some of these games like Popeye. I'd rather play a puck bowler than Popeye. Yeah, but it's not how much – it's most overrated game. I know, I know. It's just going to make this hard. This isn't even like the best game. So I don't know. Some of them, like both games, most people think suck. Yeah, which one's more overrated? So we're voting for the most overrated of the game. Okay.
    45:45
    Not the worst game. The most overrated game. I wonder if she means overrated isn't like rated too high on Pinstine.
    45:53
    Ooh. I don't know. But let's see. What's the most overrated? We'll start with this one. This is actually a good one to start with. Twilight Zone or Indiana Jones? Which one's more overrated?
    46:08
    We'll let our guests go first. Twilight Zone. Agreed. People love that. Agreed. I don't understand it. Yeah. It doesn't click for me. Wow, that was easy. That was the first one, Twilight Zone. Okay. I think this next one's easy. Remember, overrated.
    46:28
    Terminator 2, Adam's Family. Oh, definitely Adam's Family. Yeah, yeah. Same. Also agreed. Wow, this has got to be easy. Oh, no. There's no disagreement. No disagreement. Okay, this one. Okay, this is most overrated. Being that one is generally Panned and everyone hates it The other one almost has to win by default If you're saying overrated Creature from the Black Lagoon Versus Popeye I would say Creature is overrated compared to Popeye I mean I'm not saying Popeye is a good game I just say Popeye is almost never Rated high Everyone hates it For good reason Doesn't Creature have to win by default Yes, creature. Yeah, that's no contest. Yeah, it's, yeah. Boy, we're doing really good at this game, guys. We're going to plow right through this. We'll be down in five minutes. I'm sorry, who came up with these brackets? Steph. Steph, oh boy. Pinball princess. Okay, here we go. I think this one's going to be easy, too, because one generally isn't regarded that high, even though, I mean, I love it. Doctor Who versus Black Rose.
    47:46
    Oh. Now, yeah, that's a much better one. I am. So I really like Black Rose, but I don't think people love Black Rose. Exactly. So I'm not going to pick Black Rose.
    48:03
    Doctor Who for me. Yeah. Doctor Who. Definitely Doctor Who. Way overrated. Wow. Now, you're almost unanimous here. I don't know. I don't really like either of those games.
    48:18
    I think the Sonic Boom is way overrated. It's already 3-0, so it doesn't really matter what you pick. It's going to be 3-0. Yeah, fair.
    48:27
    So I'll say, Brian, that Zach's Black Rose plays very mean, and his cabinet isn't even square. That thing is destroyed. He had to put extra corner braces in it and then crank them down to try to get back into a rectangle.
    48:44
    Nice. I remember hearing about that a couple of times. Who's the asshole that sold him that game? Whoever it was.
    48:50
    Oh, that's me. What did you do, Bruce? Did you drop it off of a truck? No, I got it that way. Wait, I bought it for $800, and I turned around and sold it to Zach for exactly what I paid for it. You're a nice guy. I had it sitting for months in my basement. I'm like looking at this thing going, this thing is fucking roached. This thing is a fucking roach. But I got it. But it's a roach. Next.
    49:16
    Well, this one's easy. I'm wondering when we finish this, Steph is going to say we just played this game completely wrong, and it wasn't the right way. I can't. No. I'm guessing that's what's going to happen. But attack from Mars. So already that's probably going to be the answer. Against no fear. Oh.
    49:34
    Overrated? How is No Fear overrated? Everyone hates No Fear. Yeah. I actually like No Fear. I like No Fear, too. I owned a No Fear for years. I own three. Oh, God. I'm just going to say that No Fear is overrated because you two are all over it. Right. And I was just saying it's probably overrated because, like, any rating would be overrated.
    49:56
    Wow. Oh. They're going to knock off AFM right off the bat. So you got what? So we have two for No Fear and two for AFM? I like AFM. I don't know. It's good. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Oh, how are we going to figure this out, Bruce? Flip the coin. Hold on. Digital coin. Wait, hold on a second.
    50:12
    I think AFM is correctly rated. It's good. Okay, so heads will be AFM. Tails will be no fear. Flip. Heads. AFM. All right.
    50:31
    Are you happy now? You got what you wanted. No, I was. I actually like no fear because I love the loop. You'll have to hit the loop about 300 times. I know. When I used to play Ron's, he'd be like, fuck. That's when I had the balls to make a game without pop-uppers. Yeah.
    50:53
    Let's see. Oh, man. Okay. What's more overrated? Corvette or Harley Davidson? Oh. I don't know that I've played either of those games. No, we had the Harley.
    51:08
    This isn't the third one with the big motorcycle on it either. This is the ride to live, live to ride Harley Davidson, where you play like two ball, multi ball over and over or something like that.
    51:21
    So you might not even have played this thing. I mean, I've only played it a couple times. What was the terrible one at Pinfest that one year? that was motorcycle-based.
    51:37
    Yeah, I actually don't know if I've played Harley-Davidson. I mean, is Corvette ever overrated? I never hear people say, I love Corvette.
    51:50
    I mean, I'm sure. I still say Corvette over the other two. I'm sure on Pennside, Corvette is ranked way higher than Harley-Davidson. Yeah, I'm thinking that definitely. But is it overrated? Is it overrated?
    52:07
    I'll say Corvette. Just because I want to see Harley-Davidson move on. Yeah, I'll also. What am I saying? Yeah, exactly. I don't know what you're saying.
    52:20
    Okay. They were the poor man's WPC. That's what it was for. Oh, okay, this one's easier. I know what I'm going to say is overrated. Although I kind of like the presentation, but it is so monotonous. Bride of Pinbot versus Flintstones.
    52:37
    Oh, Bride of Pinbot. Yes, Bride of Pinbot. Yeah, I think I hear you. Flintstones is – It's a cool play field, but it's by that guy.
    52:50
    Oh, no. That guy again. Oh, yes. Explains a lot. Peddleman. Ron Trudeau. Yes. Yeah. The man with the craziest play fields.
    53:04
    All right. Now we're to the other side of the bracket here. This is the first round. We have no good Gophers versus World Cup Soccer.
    53:16
    What's more overrated? World Cup Soccer. You think that's overrated? I think it's overrated. I think a lot of people were on that. You don't see a lot of people going, Oh, my God, I want a no-good gopher. Oh, yes, you did back in the day. It was sold for $3,000, $4,000. No, not anymore. Oh, they still sell for too much. They still sell. I see. Like, if you pay a lot for a WCS, it's probably worth it. If you pay a lot for a no-good gopher. If you see two games next to each other. These are the two. Guy has, guy's saying, I want to sell one of these games. And these two games are next to each other. What are most people going to buy? They're going to buy World Cup soccer because they want to play it. I'd say no good gophers are more overrated. So we got one, one. Yeah, I also would say no good gophers. Right now the median price on Pinside is $5,000 for that thing. And I don't think it's worth $5,000. No. Although I like it. I mean, I love the Slam Bram. I think that's super cool. Wouldn't you rather play a teed off?
    54:21
    For price-wise, I'd rather buy a teed off. Yes, I love teed off. Although that's Hopper. God damn, that thing is tall. That is so tall. Oh, yeah.
    54:31
    All right. Man, some of these are hard. Whodunit versus Indianapolis 500. Oof. What's more overrated? I feel like any rating for Indianapolis 500 is overrated. Wow. I'm going to go with that.
    54:50
    Yeah. I'm going Indy also. I have to go Indy because I don't think anyone rates Whodunit high ever. No, they don't like it. And now with the bug, they all say, oh, I can't be in tournament. Can't use it in tournament. So it's bad. No, I like who done it. I think it's a great game.
    55:06
    Ooh, the next one. Two games that I own or partially own. Congo versus Dirty Harry. It's funny. In the 90s, you would have never said Congo because no one wanted Congo, and then it became like a darling and everyone wants Kongo. And it's got to be Kongo for me. So it almost has to be Kongo. It's way overrated. I don't know if it's that overrated. Oh, it is. I hear everyone. As soon as one pops up on anywhere for sale, oh, Kongo, let's go to Kongo. It's like, holy fuck, calm down. I do think it's one of the best shooting games ever made. Really? It's by that guy again.
    55:48
    So Zach got Popless Kongo, right? Yeah, now it's my dad's house. because he knows it. Oh, okay. But he sold it immediately. Right. And he had it for like a couple months and then got rid of it. Yeah. I don't think it's because he hated it. It's just I think it was probably too easy for him.
    56:09
    Yeah, it's rated 8.1 on Pinside. And if we look at Dirty Harry, I've got to check this out. I never played Dirty Harry until Mark showed up with one. I've got to set mine back up.
    56:28
    The only thing about Dirty Harry when you realize it's just playing endless multiballs. Yeah. You just get the badges and play multiball over and over. You can ignore everything else in the game. Yep.
    56:38
    It has a little bit of, what is it, Lethal Weapon 3 vibe going on. Yeah. Because of the gun? Because of the gun. And the pop-up. All right. I know both games, and I can say Dirty Harry's not at Lethal Weapon's level. Yeah, I like Lethal Weapon. Not to me, but I like Lethal Weapon more than probably anybody, almost to a scary degree.
    57:01
    I never really got into it. I don't know why. What? It's just okay. I think you're disconnecting. I don't know what happened.
    57:13
    I mean, it's fine, I guess. John, I love Lethal Weapon. So, we've got two for Congo. Do we have any more? Oh, for overrated? Yeah. Ah, jeez. I'm going to pick Dirty Harry just because. Okay. For contention? Well, I mean, actually, yeah, let's do a coin flip. I'll do that, too. Oh, Dirty Harry. Okay, we got a coin flip again. We'll leave it up to the digital coin flip. So, heads is Congo. Tails is Dirty Harry. Dirty Harry, all right. Flipping around.
    57:47
    Tails. Dirty Harry. Dirty Harry's overrated. Okay. Little trivia. We used that. I used that for the theme music for the podcast for a little while. Yeah, a little while. It was in between. What did I use originally? Dungeons and Dragons.
    58:10
    Actually, I might have used Dirty Harry originally, and then Dungeons and Dragons, and then Steel Panther.
    58:15
    I can't remember. It's been so many years now. Okay. This is overrated What's more overrated? Party Zone Or Johnny Mnemonic Hand, hand, hand All I hear about is the fucking And the ramps And the spinners Yeah, everything Totally Yeah, the Yamaka Or what is it? Yuzuka The Yamaka No, the Yamaka Oy vey I love it. That would be funny. You could use millions or whatever. Instead of Yakuza strike, it's like Bar Mitzvah strike or something. Reshot your head.
    58:57
    Money! Yay! Oh, Bob! You get the little, like the chocolate coins that just run out of the machine. So we got two for Giant Mnemonic. I'm going to pick Party Zone.
    59:11
    I just don't get it. I don't get Party Zone. We need a tiebreaker. Maybe not. I don't really get party zone either. I don't know.
    59:23
    So, 2-2? 2-2. Yes, sir. Digital. Okay. Digital coin flip. Coin flip. Heads is Johnny Mnemonic. Tails is party zone.
    59:35
    Tails, party zone. Party zone. All right. We win. Okay. That's the last of the first round I'm thinking? No. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, there's a lot of WPC games. Demolition Man. This one's easy to me. Overrated. Demolition Man versus Monster Bash. Yeah. Wow.
    59:58
    Crumpet. Announce. I think this next one's easy. Judge Dredd versus the Champion Pub. I say the Champion Pub's overrated. Never heard of that. Champion Pub?
    60:13
    It is a great game. I'm going Judge Dredd. Really? Yeah, it's way overrated. I think it's not a great game. And everyone's like, oh, it's a great game. It's not super overrated, though. I see shit. Pick Champion Pub, guys. Trust me. Nope, nope. Okay. Who do you trust? Well, you own the game, guys. See? It's true. We do. Do you think it's overrated? Do you think people are like, yeah, Judge Dredd is the shit? Yeah. I don't think so. It's fun at first, but then it's just kind of boring. It's fun at first, but then it's boring. It is. It's a terrible game. I think it's way overrated. It's awesome. I love it. See? He's proving his point. But again, I'm by the guy again. I like every one of his games. It's starting to concern me. He does have a lot of great games. It's starting to concern me. Like Dexter. Although I don't like Rocky.
    61:03
    Rocky and Q-Bert were bad. Q-Bert, honestly, when I played that, it sucks. but when you get the rules down you do try to do the thing. The thing. It doesn't shoot good.
    61:18
    You like tag team. I can't help it. I'm sorry. I definitely like WWE though. I kind of feel like Judge Dredd is overrated. Okay.
    61:33
    I'm also going to I'll pick Judge Dredd. I've never seen this champion public. Ten years for fornication. Yes. Okay. Way overrated. I don't think that's one of them, but I made that up. Oh, this was easy. Basically, anything that's made by Papa Duke, to me, just automatically wins. But Tales of the Arabian Nights versus Fishtails. What's more overrated?
    61:56
    Fishtail? No. Tales of the Arabian Nights all the way. All right. I convinced him. Oh, wow. Wow. I'm fine with that, too. We have two for tails.
    62:09
    I'll also pick tails. There we go. People love tails. A little too much. Tails wins, right? You said fish tails, right? No. Wait a minute. They put that in tails, then. They put that in tails. See, I win. I'll just pick the tails. Nice. All right. Do people really revere fish tails?
    62:30
    Tournament players do. I don't know if they were tournament players, too. I know our Zach hates it. I like it. Tournament players do, but they like the super jackpot. Yeah, I like it. There's two main scoring methods. It's the, whatchamacallit, the monster fish or just going for multi-ball.
    62:48
    I like that people like it because of the diddly background music. That's good, too. I like the fish, as long as it's not moving. It gets kind of annoying.
    62:58
    And it's got one of the greatest video modes ever. Yes. That's why I said Fishtails. I actually said Fishtails. Plus we had Mark Bonaccio as a host, and he did that game, so I have to like it.
    63:11
    But, yeah, the video mode. Everyone wants to hit the jet skiers. Come on. No, but Tails. Tails and Arabian Nights. It's just, ugh.
    63:22
    It's gritty. It nice but it not a great game It not a great game It not I agree That like the Fishtails Neither of them are really that good That why I said Fishtails
    63:34
    Let's see. What do we got here? Still got more. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. We have more. So, Bride of Pinbot versus Dracula.
    63:49
    Like the classic Stern Dracula? No. No, no, no. I'm still going to say Bride of Pinbot. I say Bram Stoker's Dracula.
    64:01
    I'm going to say the Dracula, too. All right. I'm the odd one out now. We got Jackbot versus Circus Voltaire.
    64:16
    Circus Voltaire. Way overrated. Yeah. Probably Circus Voltaire. I'm telling you. It's just pick all the popular games. You're fine. Yeah. I like Circus Voltaire, though. Oh, I like Circus Voltaire. It's really fun. Yep.
    64:31
    It's way overrated. Oh, this next one I think is easy. Even though the game is going against the shit, so it's a little unfair. But Hurricane versus Scared Stiff.
    64:47
    Scared Stiff. Yeah. Overrated. Way overrated. Yeah. Although I love scare stuff. Let's get ready to get scared.
    64:57
    I'm a stiff-o-meter. A stiff-o-meter. Oh, by the way, I played in a tournament last weekend where I played Elvira's House of Horrors or whatever. Oh, yeah. And I hit the skill shot. I didn't realize there was a behind the haunted house skill shot. Yes, there is. Yeah. And I hit it, and I got to call out something like, I see you like the back door, or something like that. I'm like, oh, my God.
    65:28
    I got Tim Kitzrow telling me I like hitting the back door. So I like stupid humor like that, but I don't really identify with any of the Elvira-themed anything. I think maybe it's because I just didn't grow up with it. The thief in the coffin, that's me. All right. And the knots for your bedpost.
    65:55
    I don't want to play Scare Stiff. I know my dad wants a Scare Stiff. State Cracker versus NBA Fast Break. That's a State Cracker. Right off the bat. Yeah. There was an era where everybody wanted that game. I had one, and I got rid of it. That's how it is. But, I mean, they're hard to come by. Oh, they're very hard to come by. That's true. They're only $100, I think. Yeah, when it pops out the coins and everything. Yep. Yeah. Oh, this next one is very hard. Oh, man. Okay.
    66:27
    Junkyard versus Gilligan's Island. What's overrated? I mean, I don't think anyone rates Gilligan's Island high at all. Yeah. No. I say Junkyard. Just by default, doesn't it have to be Junkyard? It has to be Junkyard. No, I'm going to say Gilligan's because I don't like that game. All right. That game's terrible.
    66:46
    I feel like any rating is too high. What did Brian say? I agree with Chariot. Oh, you got it. Don't coin flip. Okay, so Junkyard is heads. Gilligan's Island is tails. This is why we need an odd number of people for these. Yeah. Yeah, this is difficult. Tails wins.
    67:05
    Which one was that? Yeah, which one was that again? I said heads was Junkyard. Tails was Gilligan's Island. So Gilligan. So somehow Gilligan is overrated. Wow, the game that everyone thinks is the worst WPC game, but it's still overrated. I think Hurricane's worse than Gilligan's. Really? Yeah, I don't like Hurricane at all. I really do.
    67:31
    That's why they made so many of them for donors. Tales of the Arabian Nights versus The Shadow. Probably... Probably Tails. Yeah.
    67:51
    Rod, what's it going to be? What do we have again? You said it! Tails will be a nice first Shadow. Oh, Tails. Okay.
    68:03
    Oh, is that Wynn? Yeah. Yeah, I was going to joke. We need to do secret votes, but... But if you're just not going to listen... Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm looking at the bracket trying to figure out how I'm going to keep track of what the hell is paying out.
    68:22
    Okay. Star Trek Next Gen versus Whitewater. Overrated. Whitewater. No, Star Trek. Star Trek is totally overrated. This is hard for me because I love both games. He owns one and wants the other. I know. But overrated. Overrated.
    68:41
    Star Trek. Then you've got to coin flip it. Yep. So Star Trek heads, Whitewater tails. You know what? I think Steph Loldeson-Tales, Whitewater.
    68:53
    With some of the obvious choices at the start, and now it's gotten a lot more difficult. Whitewater wins. All right. Overrated. Again, this next one I think is easy.
    69:04
    Theater of Magic. There you go. Against Roadshow. Theater of Magic. No, Theater of Magic. Yeah, probably Theater. Yeah Because I mean hardly anyone likes Roadshow but I love Roadshow But I'm sick Okay overrated Medieval Madness or The Getaway Medieval Madness I was going to say Getaway We have one Getaway I also think Getaway is overrated Wow We're going to flip for it Medieval Madness Getaway, tail. You know, Madness is so good, it can't possibly be overrated. Oh. It's got TFA in it. Getaway. Getaway is the most overrated. Okay, you guys win again. Fate is just fighting with us all the time. All right.
    69:53
    This one's tougher because one always sells for a ton, and the other one was super rare or more super rare, and everyone wanted it. So which one of these is most overrated, Funhouse or Cactus Canyon? Funhaus. Yeah, Funhaus. Yeah.
    70:12
    I'll say Funhaus, probably. Yeah. Way overrated. Although I like it. I like so many of these games that everyone says it's overrated.
    70:21
    Yeah, I mean, Cactus Canyon is a little overrated, but like... Not compared to Funhaus. Oh, my God. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. With the comparison there, it's... Yeah. Okay, that should be the first round, right, Ron? Yeah. Yay! That's only the first round, boys and girls. Oh, no. Okay. Yeah. Twilight Zone. This one's going to be hard. Wow, we immediately went to hard. What's more over a Twilight Zone or Adam's Family? Oh, Adam's Family. Twilight Zone. Adam's Family.
    70:51
    I think probably Adam's Family. All right. Yeah. Okay, Adam's Family. All right, so we've got, let's see, Doctor Who versus Creature. Doctor Who. Creature.
    71:12
    Do we want a coin flip? That's up to you. You have a vote. Doctor Who. Let's do the coin flip. All right. So Creature is heads. Doctor Who is tails.
    71:27
    Heads. Creature. No argument from me. Wow. All right. Let's see. What's this one? Oh, yeah. Okay. So, Attack from Mars versus Corvette. Attack from Mars. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. I was going to say Corvette, but okay. That's fine. You lost, but yeah, that's fine. You're strong. Yep.
    71:57
    Let's see. Then we have... Let's see. do that one already? Shit. Oh, yeah, we did that one already. I think we did. Ron had actually written the results down. I did write the results down. It's still hard as fuck to try to get this down here.
    72:24
    Oh, God, help me. We picked... What did we... Okay, I think we did Bride of Pinball versus Flintstones, and then we went against Dracula. and Dracula won. Yep. So we're beyond that one.
    72:38
    So I'm down to, did we do jackpot versus, we didn't do jackpot yet. No. All right. So, oh, no, we did that. We did jackpot versus Circus Voltaire. We did that. We did all these. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we did all these. So we're in the next, let me go over to the other side here.
    72:57
    So, yeah, no good gophers versus Indianapolis 500. No good gophers. I'd say no good gophers. Good gophers for me, too. I don't really care. That's not one of the games, but yes. Yes.
    73:17
    Okay. So then we got Dirty Harry versus the Party Zone. Dirty Harry. Party Zone? Yeah, Dirty Harry. Between those two, yeah, I guess Dirty Harry. Cool.
    73:38
    Then we got Monster Bash. Oh, boy. I'll just say Monster Bash right now. Monster Bash versus – hey, I'm just saying Monster Bash versus Addams Family or something. Monster Bash versus Judge Dredd. Monster Bash. Oh, Monster Bash. Still Monster Bash. Yeah. Good Lord. All right. Uh, then we got that. I think we did already. We did. Yeah, we did that one. Shadow versus.
    74:16
    Yeah, I think we went beyond. Yeah, I think we went to that. I think we're nearing the end here, actually.
    74:22
    So we got Adam's family. Verse is. You forgot mom. No, you forgot. But in the first round, you had Cactus versus something.
    74:36
    Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, Cactus versus, oh, yeah. Yeah, how you doing? I did that. I did Star Trek versus White War Theater, Magic versus Roadshow, Medieval Madness. Oh, yeah, you're right. So I should probably keep going down there. Yes, down that row, yes. Oh, I'm sorry. See?
    74:54
    You missed one of my memory. well what I should have done is actually wrote this out or printed it and then typed it in or just wrote it in because I'm doing this in notepad so I have to keep going back and forth with the bracket now I'm confused at what the hell I did so uh whitewater versus uh theater of magic theater magic whitewater theater magic yeah theater Sorry, Brian. It's all right. I don't get why you hate Whitewater so much. I don't hate it. He's saying it's overrated. It's overrated. Well, I'm taking it personally. Yeah. I am saying it's overrated. I don't hate it. It's a good game. We have Getaway versus Funhouse.
    75:46
    Funhouse. Funhouse would be more overrated. Getaway versus Funhouse. I think Getaway is more overrated, maybe. I don't know. You're in a minority, though. It's 3-1. Okay. Wow.
    75:59
    Yes, I get to say it again. It doesn't matter what you think. Get your face. Oh, man. Okay. So we got...
    76:12
    Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. All right. So we got Adam's family versus... It's going to be Adam's family. You know, right? I mean, against Monster Bash, you don't know. Well, I'd still probably pick Adam's family even in that case.
    76:38
    Adam's family versus, looks like Creature. Adams. Yeah. Adams. Okay. I think so. Yeah. Adams.
    76:53
    That ends that bracket. And we got, let's see, Attack from Mars. I think I did that one already. Yeah, I think Attack from Mars make it through this bracket.
    77:11
    I think so. Yeah, I think so. Because it beat No Fear, and then it beat, I think, Dracula or something.
    77:20
    So, yeah. So, that, yeah. Okay. So, this bracket is basically, it's Adam's family. Oh, God. It's almost like she did it this way on purpose. So, it's Adam's family versus the tag from Mars. What's more overrated? Adam's.
    77:36
    Yeah. I'll say it. So, that's the final four. Adams is in the final four. There's no one surprised.
    77:47
    Then let's see. Where's Circus? We have Circus. Okay. Circus versus Scared Stiff.
    78:00
    Certainly. I'll say Circus. Okay. Scared Stiff heads. Circus tails. Heads. I'll revel in this victory. Which one was that? Circus? Sif. Oh, Sif. Okay.
    78:23
    Advance. I think, is that almost the end of that one? I apologize to all our listeners for my... No. Okay. So then we got Safecracker versus Gilligan's Island.
    78:46
    Safecracker. Let's just do Safecracker. Okay. So when you get to the final four, it's now Safecracker versus Scared Stiff.
    79:00
    Safecracker. Stiff. Okay. Safecracker. Oh, Ron, it's up to you. I'd say scared stiff. Is that enough?
    79:18
    Is that advanced? Yeah, it's advanced. Yep. That's 3-1. All right. Final four. So that's one side. Let's go over to the other side. Oh, dear God.
    79:34
    All right. This is sticky. Everyone's gone. They're all fucking sleeping. They're going, they're just saying, it's fucking out of the family. Yeah, right? Oh, man. That game is so overrated.
    79:51
    Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, man. I'm sorry. Tales of the Arabian Nights. Where was that? Tales of the Arabian Nights. That beat Champion Pub, Demoman, Monster Bash. Okay. Okay, tails versus whitewater.
    80:17
    Yeah, we did that one. I really should have just wrote this down. I'm totally unprepared. I think by default, Adam's family wins. You know, let's just say Adam's family wins the whole thing. Yes, thank you. Thank you. We all agree it's going to be Adam's family. Do we or do we not? Well, let me look at the side of the bracket, the other side of the bracket, and we can see, do any of these more overrated than Adam's family?
    80:44
    How about that? I like that. Adam's family. Let's see. Jesus. Adam's family. Like, no good Gophers? No. World Cup soccer? No. Who doesn't? No. Indy 500? No. Congo? No. Dirty Harry? No. Party Zone? No. Is John Umanek more overrated than... No. Demolition Man? No. Oh, wait a minute. Monster Bash.
    81:10
    No. Adam's Family is way fucking overrated. Yeah, I'd still say it. Monster Bash is probably like number two. Number two. Number two, okay. Well, wait. Monster Bash or Creature?
    81:21
    Creature is underrated. Overrated Monster Bash, totally. Creature is underrated. I would say Monster Bash.
    81:27
    Let's see. Judge Dredd. She had Beauty Club. Yeah, AMFM. AMFM, AMFM. Tales of the Arabian Nights. F, F, F, F. Yeah. As fuck.
    81:42
    Medieval Madness? No, it wasn't that. It was Getaway. Getaway continued anyway. It beat Medieval Madness. Yeah, and that was a tiebreaker. That was our last great hope. Well, hold on. So we agree everything on the right side of the bracket does not surpass Adams. So it's going to be between Adams and Scarif then.
    82:02
    Adams. Oh, Adams. Yeah, still Adams. Still Adams. So in the end, Adam's family is the most overrated WPC game. Fuck yeah, finally. Oh my fucking God.
    82:15
    And now our listenership is now seven. Wow, that high? That high. We gained a couple from that bit. All right.
    82:29
    Mailball bag. Nope. He's saying nope, folks. Would you or would you not buy that? We have guests. We have guests, and Bruce has done his work, unlike me. I've done homework. All right. Okay. So the name of this game is to see if we would buy this eBay item, and I'm going to give you the link, the number to the auction, and you can put that in at the top search button. You can play along with us. Ron will give the description, everything, and we'll go from there. So go to eBay, and under the search, you're just going to put this number that Bruce is saying. Yep. 297-458-443-396.
    83:20
    Ron, give us the description. If it ever comes up, I will. Still looking. Wow. Still looking. You guys got it? Oh, there we go. Oh, yeah. Oh, I've got it. God.
    83:40
    So, well, a couple issues here I have. Number one, the price. But I hate when years are wrong. Yeah. First thing it says, 1976 memory lane by CERN.
    83:55
    CERN wasn't even. If CERN existed in 1976, they would have been doing EMs and not electronic solid state game. I think memory lane is like, what is that? 78. 78, 79, one or the other. It's a... And also it's easy to look it up. Yeah, it's an MPU 100 Stern with chimes. I kind of like it. I know a lot of people don't. I like it.
    84:24
    It's $3,000. I'm sorry, $2,995. So $3,000. June 1978. To be fair, it does say or best offer, but that 3K for that is kind of a lot. My best offer is take the two off. I'll give you $995. Yeah. Is it just me or is the back glass kind of? Oh, the back glass is great. Oh, it's great. It's very clean. They almost all are. I mean, if you notice, the game's not on in any pictures. No. He didn't take the glass off. No, that's a big deal. There's no pictures of the inside. No. There's nothing. There's nothing on the play field. Oh, yeah.
    85:07
    3K. Where is this? I'm trying to find the location. Oklahoma. Tell us about Oklahoma. It went through the dust bowl. That explains why you didn't explain it. This 1976 memory lane by Stern Pinball Machine is a collectible arcade game that has been meticulously maintained in excellent condition. This original machine, manufactured in the United States by Stern Pinball, is a classic piece of gaming history that showcases the intricate craftsmanship and nostalgic charm of pinball machines from the 1970s.
    85:44
    Wow. Whether you're an avid collector or a casual enthusiast of vintage arcade games, this machine is sure to provide hours of entertainment and a touch of resto nostalgia. We had a blast with this machine during the pandemic. Had it worked over, and it plays great. I have owned this machine since 1980.
    86:07
    No. The machine's been babied its entire life. No. That's a fucking lie. I'd say that's actually child abuse if that's what they mean. Unless he was an operator and had it on location since 1980. Maybe I believe it.
    86:25
    Jesus. Like the front of the cabinet there has these little dots that look like mold. Oh, man. So would you guys buy this? I'm going to put that at no. Okay. So we're going to say no. Especially not this one. Okay.
    86:44
    So we have no's across the board. Yeah, Brian, that looks like mold. But it's not. It's a speckle. The cabinet is speckled that way. No, wait. No, no, no. On the front. No. To the left of the coin door.
    87:02
    I mean, the cabinet is speckled, but that looks like a lot of speckle there. It has 100% positive feedback for three items. And he'll ship it for $221.93 on UPS Ground Advantage. So you guys are good then. It's not a bad price to ship that. No, it's great for that. Yeah. Yeah, UPSPS. Okay, well, this seller's other items, none of them are pinball. It's all like Oklahoma artwork. Yeah.
    87:42
    Next. Okay, next. Next, 176-929-100-728. Okay. Lower price. Very low price. We have a Tri-Zone for $600 in Rhode Island. Ooh. Oh, no. It looks like someone pooped on it. It does. It's pretty rough.
    88:16
    Yeah, $600. Oh, there's one picture. One picture. One picture, and it's of a very dirty-looking play field covered with a very dirty-looking piece of glass. Well, at least this thing does not work. Oh, it definitely doesn't work. You could tell.
    88:35
    1979 Williams-Tryzone, sold as is. This machine does not work. And then an interesting note that the final artwork was completed by Christian Marsh, as opposed to the initial artwork that was completed by someone else. I don't understand the wording there, but, I mean, it doesn't work.
    88:57
    But it's only $600. Would you take the chance? If I could go in person and look at it. Yeah, that's what I would say. I'd go there and say, I think I'd take the chance. It's funny that it's fitting in four people's carts right now, but nobody's clicked the buy button. 80 people are watching it. Watching this, yes, I know. The other thing is the seller has never sold anything else. Yep. Oh, yeah, yeah.
    89:24
    I mean, that's why there's only one picture of it, right? Yeah, they don't know that there's going to be other pictures. They don't know. It's also, it looks like it's in their basement. Yeah.
    89:35
    It could be. Well, fever. You know, granddad died and he had this in his basement. We need to get rid of it. Oh, shit. Just take a picture of it and put it on eBay. See what happens. Mm-hmm.
    89:47
    That's what I'm saying. I mean, if the game is this dirty and sitting in their basement, you know what picking that up is going to be like.
    89:54
    Oh. Okay. Ready for the next one since we know that's – I say yes. If I was real – if Wise-O was like my game, it would be worth it to at least take a look. Yeah.
    90:07
    For that price, I'm a maybe. Yeah. I think it might be in my cart, too. We'll make it number five. Yeah, right. There we go.
    90:15
    Okay, next item. 256-944-913-121. Another challenge to you, gentlemen. I'm going to pass on this one. Wow, that was quick.
    90:33
    This seller has 4,603 with 100% positive. So they're probably in the up and up. And there's lots of pictures here. So it is a future spa for $3,000, or should I say $29.90.
    90:53
    Or best offer. Oh, I'll take the Pirates in the background. Yeah, they have a bunch of games in the background, so they obviously sell some games. He's a vendor. He's a vendor in Chattanooga. I mean, it looks okay. It's faded. It is faded. It's faded. Yeah, the red's gone.
    91:10
    But if you look at the play field, the play field has no hairy legs. Yeah. Second, it has all new boards in the back box. Yeah, all new boards. Yeah, and it turns on. That's good. So you think about it, all the boards that are in the back box are probably at least $500.
    91:30
    Yeah. So you've got new stuff there. The play field is very nice. Very nice. They took the glass off, too. Yeah. You can see what we're looking at. It is faded on one side badly. It is faded photographs. If you can get them down to maybe 24 or 25?
    91:48
    Maybe. You know, the Valley Future Spa Pinball Machine has been meticulously restored to near pristine condition. We've upgraded all of the outdated electronics with modern boards, ensuring optimal performance. The plate bill has been thoroughly cleaned and waxed, and we've replaced all the rubbers and lights. Oh, you'll love this one, Bruce. Additionally, we've installed LED lights that truly enhance the machine's visual appeal.
    92:17
    In some cases, we may have to charge more on eBay than our actual website due to the fees involved. While we do not charge taxes at some states or website, we cannot control taxes charged here on eBay.
    92:30
    So what are your thoughts, guys? They've been around forever. The seller's probably fine. Yeah. It's just, like, do you want to pay $3,000 for a future spa? No, not really. It says best offer, of course, so you can put less in there. Yeah. Or you can go to his website and make a real deal instead of paying eBay. Yeah, exactly. That's what he really wants, right? Yes, I think so, too. Yeah.
    92:53
    I mean, because if you look at, just for the listeners out there, if you look at the Pimside estimated value, it's like $1,500. Yeah.
    93:04
    Okay, two more, guys. The plate feel looks really nice. Yeah, I know. The play field is not very big. That's a big seller. That's a big seller to me.
    93:15
    I don't know if I was really in a future spa. There's 28 watchers. Some of those people on the play field look a little cold.
    93:27
    Oh, yeah. Yeah, like the one over there. Remember, no more than two reps. That's like my favorite part. That's all you can do. Two reps is all you can do. No more than two reps. Like, why not? Because you'll kill your arms. Your arms will get ripped off by that machine if you try more than two reps. Yeah. Okay. So is that a yes, no, or maybe? Maybe. You have to do it not through eBay. Yeah, that would be the way. And maybe just go there. Yeah.
    93:59
    Okay. Next one. 226-873-502-9000. 1665. Oh. I got Ron. I knew I got Ron. Oh, yeah, you're going to get me on something like this.
    94:21
    Yeah, this actually looks okay. $800. Monaco. The back glass looks great. This would be a Sonic. Good Sonic.
    94:33
    So you know the play field is probably going to be pretty darn good. It's not, though. Oh, it's not? No, it's not. Look around the pop bumpers.
    94:46
    Okay, but I mean, my prospector looks the same. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying it's not perfect. It's not perfect, but it's better than most games this era are going to be. No, I agree. It looks like the Mylar dried up and then it was there chafing. Peeled off, yeah. Yeah. Chafing, I like it. I mean, that's what it's doing. put some zinc oxide on that it a sonic so it like how the cabinet look Yeah you don know that I don know It looks pretty darn good Yeah I mean for Yeah, is that what it is? It was $800.
    95:22
    Seller's got 2,230 sales with 100% positive. And it's got a topper thing on it. Was this, like, at a location somewhere? Yeah, maybe it was. But, yeah, I would definitely – Yeah.
    95:39
    It's actually lower than the low end on the pin side. It's in good condition and plays fast and well.
    95:48
    Mm-hmm. I like how – Pickup is welcome. I like how it's written – Pickup is welcome. It's written in all caps. That's how you know it's good. It's good. Or he did it through his phone because he didn't want to type it. Yeah.
    96:02
    Well, wait a minute. We're in Ohio. Oh, is this Rob? Is this Rob Burke machine? Yeah. I think it's Rob Burke. Yeah, it's got to be. It's the seller's Rob 9. Yeah.
    96:15
    So even if Rob doesn't, like, fix it himself, he has plenty of techs who do. Yeah. So it probably does work 100%. Yeah, it probably does. And it's only 800 bucks. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm like, I don't know. Like, that play field is really clean. Yeah, this looks like it was on locate because it's got little notes on it. Monaco was remade from cons and has higher point values and some rule changes. Yep. The manufacturer did not correct the misspelling from the cons production run.
    96:47
    Extra ball wet lit instead of when lit. Nice. Oh, I like that. See, I like this game because it's another one of those crush the spinner, hit it up top. Yep.
    97:01
    I would say yes. For $800? Yeah. I would definitely consider this. Yep. See? Yep. And now we go to the last one. Last one.
    97:15
    257-022-786-314. Oh. Oh, no. You need more shitty ones. I hate this. So this is also from Rob Burke. Yes, it is. Stern Trident pinball machine, $450.
    97:43
    Real cheap. Wait. Oh, sold as is and is not working. Okay. Yes. Okay. Look at that play field, folks. That is a joy. Okay.
    97:56
    There's not much left of the play field. Wow. You could. Like raw wood. Yeah, raw wood. That's some of the most rare I've seen. If you want to try that, you could just paint from scratch and make it your own game. Or re-theme it. Re-theme it. Yeah, this is it.
    98:12
    Yeah, this is pretty bad. Yeah. There's nothing left. Hence the lower price. Yes, hence the lower price. That's too much. Here's why I'm going to say it's a maybe. You're going to say yes because it may be because it's just parts. Exactly. The bottom power board on the bottom, that's $150, $200 for the transformer and the board down there. So that's one thing right there. The one stern spinner on the right, $20, $30. Back glass, probably about $1.50. So if you need these parts. I mean, the neck, this is the first game with the memory drops. So you've got a memory drop neck. So for the parts, I would say a big shmaby.
    98:52
    The spinner on the left doesn't look right, though. It's not. It's a Bally one. Yeah. The one on the right is correct. The one on the right is correct, but I said the right one. The left one is from, what's it called, the truck one, Knight Rider. Yep. Yeah. I mean, it looks. It's a Smaby. Yeah. It's a parts machine. Yeah, it's a parts machine. It can make another game work. Yeah. It can make several games work. Are those the original drops? They look weird.
    99:21
    Yeah. They look very weird. They should be tombstones, but they're way thicker. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. They should be memory. Star Shooter. Yeah, they look like something on Star Shooter. They look like a completely wrong brand's drop target. Yeah. You're a little worried about that. The wind door looks nice. Not great, but, you know, better than some others.
    99:44
    There's some good parts here. Yeah. Oh, yeah, there's the boards. Yep. Yeah. So there's possibilities. The backlash doesn't look bad. No, backlash looks really nice. That's a shame. It's like, how does backlash look that good and a plate that looks that bad? It's easily the best part of the game. What's wild is the backlash looks that nice, and then if you look at the GI that's behind there. It's all heated and everything. Yeah, exactly. You think someone replaced it at some point? It could be. Yeah, but not bad, though. I would say a big old shmaby. Yeah. and i got you want to you want to joke one run okay we'll do one joke one and that's it yes last one hold on i gotta get to it now i just gotta move to the thing five four three two one you're right fail hold on i'm getting to it uh where are you that wasn't no editing by the way do you like the last episode i didn't edit at all it was great i know he was right out immediately and that's the way i'm doing them now okay ready 336-075-849-619.
    101:03
    What the fuck? Yeah, what the fuck? What are you sending us here? What does it say, Ron? Two, not Tekken, but Tekkon World Cup Arcade Games, 1985. Both need work.
    101:20
    One is $600. The other one is $800. Well, no. One is $600, and buy it now is $800. Oh, sorry. I misread that. So he has two of these that you can make one a workable game, they say. Oh. And what does this look like, Ron?
    101:39
    I mean, is this like the football one with the dirt ball that you were good at? Yes. What's it called? Gridiron Fight. It's the soccer one. Is this the same game, but just the soccer? Soccer version, yes. And you don't get to pick your plays. It's just rolling the ball and, you know, and kicking to another person.
    101:56
    You know, another player, you know, if you're kicking ahead. Mm-hmm. But with some technical knowledge, I have no doubt one working game could be made out of these two.
    102:06
    Okay. Yeah, with some knowledge, which I don't have. Yeah, I don't have either. Well, I do, but, you know, I don't want to for this game. If it was a gridiron fight, I'd be like, yeah, this is me. But this is a Tekken World Cup. Wow. So two games for $800. Yeah.
    102:24
    With the manual. The manual is the most important. I love how many pictures they do. They don't even show you the other one. That's the parts game. They just show you one. Yeah.
    102:34
    I like the caveat that pick up only one is in the basement game room. Yeah. And you know that this person. You will need to pick up or arrange shipping. So if I pick it up, do I have to pick it up out of the game room downstairs, or are you going to bring it upstairs for me? Absolutely.
    102:53
    Yeah. Ask any questions. There you go. I don't know. If you really like this game and you knew what you were doing. Yeah, it could be a possibility, but, yeah, it's pretty wild. And this is in Ohio. Wow. Everything's in Ohio. A lot of games in Ohio. But that's all of our buy it, you know, would you not buy it now? Yes. Would you not buy it now?
    103:20
    Yeah. Do you think there'd be any parts in there that would be worth it for anything else? No, and the only thing it would be good for would be, like, for literally a, what's it called, a gridiron fight. I gotcha. And me and Ron love gridiron fights. Well, Bruce is way better at gridiron fights. I just get slaughtered, so.
    103:41
    There is a video for that up on Ron's YouTube page. Not the Slant Tilt one. No, but his own Gizmonic YouTube page. There's all kinds of cool stuff there. If you look up Gridiron Fight, you can actually see us playing it at California Extreme one year. Extreme.
    104:00
    Extreme! Ready for the ball bag? I'm ready for the ball bag. Trademarked. The male ball bag. U.S. made ball bag. The U.S. made ball bag. Our first email is from an Australian. Hold on. Often imitated, but never reproduced. Like our ball bag.
    104:21
    Yeah, often imitated, never duplicated. Duplicated. I think that's the phrase. Maybe that is it. But yeah, let's say nobody's stealing our fucking ball bag. Wow. Okay. First one here is from Glenn.
    104:35
    Hey, Glenn. Hi, Glenn. He says, Surf and Safari just cleared the minimum votes needed to crack the Pinside rankings. Yes. And where did it end up? Hail to the powerful and all-knowing Pinside Top 100. So, where did it end up?
    104:54
    While you consider this, Catacomb is four reviews away from making the list Vote or Die. Surf and Safari, it's 234. Jesus fucking Christ. Between Jeannie and Indiana Jones. Wow. People are fucking morons. We need to go over that. One day, Ron, we just bash on the pin side 100, 200, 300. We just have to. Bruce just loved that. He just loved going through the list and getting angry. I think Bruce likes being angry. They're morons. You don't say. Yeah. I want to read. Hold on. Wasn't Ren and Stimpy where Ren realizes he just likes being angry?
    105:42
    That's right. I like being angry. Here we go. Here's one of the reviews. Doesn't look like much, but this game is so much fun. Love the call-out guy, but he rates it as a seven.
    105:54
    Hey, at least you said positive things about it, dude. You're still bashing. It's all right. Half-baked water park theme, but actually suits pretty good, and the rules are simple. Plunge your own multi-ball. No thanks. 6.5. Plunge your own multi-ball? What is he talking about?
    106:12
    Because you can either plunge it as a two multi-ball or you fuck up. I know. You can plunge it as a three ball. Yeah, if you plunge correctly, you can have a three ball multi-ball instead of a two. But you don't plunge the multi-ball. I know. Duh. That's how stupid he is.
    106:25
    Actually, you have to hit a hurry up just to start the multi-ball. And if you don't get it in time, guess what? Fuck you. You don't get multi-ball. Here's another great one from Guy from Vermont. This game is okay. Its theme is strange, and the colors are great. Okay, here we go. Not much going on in this game, though. What? Do you even know what fucking pinball is?
    106:48
    Okay, Bruce. You see what I've got to deal with, Guy? Do you even know? Actually, these guys know exactly what I'm going through.
    106:59
    I love you guys. Glenn. Thank you, Glenn. Glenn, people are fucking stupid. You just made my point. Thank you, Glenn. If people don't have the same opinion as me, they're stupid. Yeah. Yeah, it's the Bruce way. Totally. The Bruce way. Yes. I was going to mention this. Scott sent an email also.
    107:22
    Rob Anthony passed away. Yes. Unfortunately, Rob Anthony passed away. If you don't know Rob Anthony, if you've ever been to Expo or I think the last two years, Texas Spinball Festival. Yeah, Texas. He struggled at Texas. The room where they do repairs and stuff and have all the tech stuff. You'll see the guy with the dog fixing boards. That was Rob Anthony.
    107:47
    And I was talking to Bruce about this before the show. When we were in Allentown, like 10 years ago, 12 years ago, or it was a long time ago. Yeah, about 13, 12. When you were still vending, when you had the pinball lifter, we went for dinner.
    108:10
    I think it was probably Friday night. We went for dinner at this big steakhouse. And I was thinking since then, like three of the people that were there are no longer with us. Yep. Bruce Sr. Yep, my dad. Jim Knight from Rotten Dog Amusements, he was there. And now Rob, he was there. Yeah. Yeah, it's sad. You know, we're just getting older, unfortunately. But he was never in great health. He even said it. You know, he knew.
    108:38
    He just struggled with a lot of things. And, unfortunately, it sounds like it got to him. Yep. He was in the hospital for a while, they said. A while, yeah. And the heart issues. The dog.
    108:52
    He got rescued. Yep, he got rescued. Yep. Because that's the thing he was worried most about, Someone taking care of his dog. So his dog has been rescued. I'm trying to remember. What was the dog's name? I remember his original was Taro. Yeah, that's not this one. I don't know what this one is. I don't know this one.
    109:10
    But our, you know, our thoughts behind Rob, you know, I've known him for years, and it's just sad. We're not getting any younger boys and girls. No, it's sad seeing the people. Like, when you've been doing this long enough, it's like all these people going down.
    109:25
    Yeah. It's going to suck. They only remember us, Ron. They'll just go, oh, we don't need that podcast anymore. Ding.
    109:34
    Let me just remove that from my podcast. Immediately, they haven't had an episode in two months. Fuck them. Where's my content? I need content. Content.
    109:44
    All right. I think, let's see, did you want to do more repairs, Bruce? No. Are you repaired out? We're repaired out, I think, and teched out. What do you guys think? Do you want to talk about it? We're still playing with the shooter. Has the shooter gotten better on Starship Troopers since I played with it again?
    110:07
    I don't think I touched it since you played with it again. Oh, okay. Well, I thought maybe you played it after I tweaked it again. You touched it while you played with what? What are you guys talking about? I tweaked it.
    110:20
    It's just, it's not a great design. It's bad. I would love to figure out how to put a modern stern launcher in there, but the sizes didn't really work out. Yeah, it's really tight. It's very tight.
    110:36
    Yeah. We'll have to figure out something, but I'm going to play with it a little more today when I get in, and we'll check it out. There you go. And I'll hand it off to you afterwards.
    110:47
    Okay. I don't think I've played it since you adjusted it the last time. I'm hoping. For cleaning games. trust me I don't think that mech's ever going to be 100% but if it's like 80-90% I think we're really good I definitely think it's way better than it was oh totally yeah so I think if we get it more like the odd ball of a ball coming down and hitting it while it's trying to eject guess what that's just shit happens but yeah well it's the price of not plunging your own multi-ball okay yes that's the power of love I have a quick repair. Okay, what's your quick repair? So, I play Giant Mnemonic, and I notice some of the inserts are not lighting up like ever.
    111:34
    And every time it's on a light board, it's never the fucking bulb with me. No, never. It's always the connector. It's the fucking connector. So, sure enough, I jiggle the thing. This one was almost falling out. Oh. So, when I took it out, I noticed that when I shop games out, I take the light boards off and I clean the inserts underneath.
    112:01
    This game was Zach's. Zach doesn't do that. No, he doesn't. Because I took it off and all the inserts were just black underneath. Like, shit. No wonder it's dimmer. Star Trek is so dark right now because it has so much dirt. Oh, my God. I have to get in there and clean that. I just had to get my Zach dig. Ooh, the Zach dig. Yes, the Zach dig. But, yeah, so I had to reflow some solder there, and we're back up. Yes, nice. I think that's all I had to do. I'm just dealing with the AFM play field. It's been touched up, and we're putting the play field protector on it hopefully this week, and then pull that in the back, you know, back out maybe, or it seems like we've got more repairs than ever. yeah it just keeps on hitting the more games you have the more repairs you need let's get 120 guys right like a combat we have a lot of EM's we have a lot of other stuff but we have more games coming so they're coming down the pipe I think Mark said time machine today time machine I love time shooting. Same player, shoot again.
    113:21
    It's a great. I'd love to have some spares. It is good to have spares. It'll be nice when we can knock down the walls. Does anyone quote call-outs for newer games?
    113:34
    I was thinking about that. Yeah, Godzilla. What about the Godzilla one? Yeah, but most of that's making fun of it. Yeah. Not really. Shoot the wamps. Yeah, shoot the wamps. I do believe what I'm seeing. Let me see. Holy shit. Okay, yeah. I do quote that. I can't believe it's not butter. I do quote that, yes. I just think most of the time we're quoting games that are like older games. Yeah, but yeah. Honestly, Godzilla is the only game I can say that's newer that people are quoting. I don't believe it. Holy shit. Jackpot. Good golly, Miss Molly. Yeah. It is a great game.
    114:12
    Okay. Oh, yeah. Thanks to everyone who signed up for Stomp. Oh, my God. Holy fuck. I had several people ask me, like, I thought it was Sunday that signed up. So I think there was some date issues there that occurred. That's when you ask.
    114:32
    It was conflicting a little bit, but I fixed it way beforehand. Yeah, people had it on their calendars this Sunday. So how many people are on your wait list? Seven. Oh, yes. We didn't even have that big of a thing for regular Stomp West. We did 32.
    114:51
    Right. We went right to 40. Then we upped it to 40, and that's the max. We can't go. Yeah, we cannot get any more. Sorry. Yeah, well, I think having the 80-person tournament set a precedent, and now there's people, like there's just a bigger audience of people who want to go. I think it's actually the one-day thing. You know, one day it's close to a lot of other places. One day it's close. It's close to New York City. It's like right in the center of New York City. New England even maybe Syracuse within a couple hours you can get there from all around I think that helps and plus it's a private house so it's a lot nicer we're not paying an entry fee so all the money goes back except for the trophies back to the people so it is a lot easier and there's parking there's plenty of parking on the street and everyone forgets the address every year the same people ask me the address every single year I actually have it saved now when people ask me. I just go into my contacts for Ron, copy, paste, done. Well, Bruce wanted to use an interesting technique where he set up the Facebook event and put my actual address on it, so I had to fix that.
    115:57
    You mean it's not just on Pinside or Pinball Mat? Yeah. Because it won't let you start an event now without an address, a full address. Let me change it afterwards, though. It's just like the local address. Now it just says Kodak. It's Godack. I like that. There you go. Or as the GPS calls it, Shodack. I love that. I can't say it right. Yes. Just like it says Chilai. It says Chili for us over here in Rochester.
    116:26
    Yeah. You guys with the Chili, it says Chilai. It's Indian. Chilai instead of Cairo. You got all these weird things. That's why we're greased. You guys actually call it greased? To me, I call it greasy.
    116:43
    It's got to be just something different if you're in upstate New York. So it's not Greece. It's very true. It is true. So, Brian, hear it. Plug your stuff. Plug yourselves.
    116:57
    Where do I go if I want to get these boards? Do you have an old Stern? One of the very few games we make parts for? Glodstone.com or Pinside.
    117:08
    And under Pinside, just look for Glodstone. Sure. Yeah, all ten additional people who need these parts. Now's your chance.
    117:19
    You need a voice. Go to Gladstone.com. Get these exciting new products. Get the VSU-2 speech synthesizer. It's a drop-in replacement for your VSU-100 speech board games, all six of them. You can also get the optical trough sensor for Flight 2009 ball.
    117:38
    I mean, that's exactly what I said, right? Pretty much. You need the charisma, the Ron charisma. I like when Ron does it. It's way better.
    117:51
    But remember, this will help with the trough, but it won't help with the software of Nineball. So sometimes it may still get confused because it is Nineball. Nineball does get confused, and it has that extra trough on the play field where it stacks two balls for the multi-ball. And those switches are basically on top of each other. On top of each other. The balls are literally on top of each other.
    118:20
    If an eyeball spits out an extra ball, I think it's because of those. I have one where if I locked two balls, the game would reset.
    118:29
    I had to put heat-trick tubing over one of the wire forms, the switch wire forms. Because I think when the two balls would touch, it would short somehow. And both would reset. that. I'll believe that. Also, I think at one point on Bruce's, some of those switch wires or one of the diodes on the switches, it basically abuts that giant drop bank, which is all metal. Yeah. That was causing problems. Yeah. You've got to put tape around it. Yeah. Just to protect everything. Although, you might ask yourself, man, all these issues with Nineball, is it worth it? It's totally worth it. Nineball is awesome. Awesome. If I recall, I don't think Zach likes it very much. No, yes. That makes it even better. So you know it's good if he doesn't like it. Exactly.
    119:16
    It's like the French kiss. Is that what the French kiss is? Yes. It's the Zach. Oh, man. I was just sure we would be able to have a longer show. I thought this would be a short one, and it's like two hours again. Well, thanks, Steph, for that one. Oh, yeah. Thanks, Ron, for totally losing track of the games. Fucking it all up. Yes. And the cool thing is you'll get to hear all of it because with the last show, I am not going through meticulously editing these things anymore. It's just... Fuck yeah! It takes too long. It's not worth it. Ain't nobody got time for that. And I have no time. I literally have no time anymore. And unless Bruce says something horribly offensive... Which I didn't this time. Go figure. Not yet. We're not done yet, so... But yeah. So it's not quite as... Like when we're doing the eBay game and you can kind of hear people, like, clicking their keyboards because they're looking it up. I used to edit all that out, like every little thing. I'm not going to. Not anymore. Nope. That's too ridiculous. Nope. It builds character, you know. It does. Yeah, it does. Yeah, yeah. That level of disdain for your listeners, you really let it find you. Well, I just have – as long as everyone is a similar volume level and you don't get bleed through from other people, which I haven't got. Good job, guys. Nice headsets. However you're doing it. I'm not getting bleed through, so that's good. Headphone. Headphones, yes. Maybe you can give those to Zach because he's the worst. Does he just use the speakers? No, no. He has the headset. No, he uses just the snowball. No, he doesn't use the snowball. He uses the headset. He uses the headset with the mic on the headset. But it's a smaller, like they don't go over his ears. And I don't know if he's got the volume cranked up or whatever. But it bleeds through to his mic every time.
    121:08
    So he is the biggest pain to clean up every one of these because you can hear everyone else through his headphones. Nice.
    121:15
    But he's nice in that whenever he's not talking, he will always mute. Yeah. So it makes it a little easier. But if we're in a conversation where we're going back and forth, then it's bad. Then it's like, oh, God. If only he turned the volume down on his own headset, you know, maybe so he can barely hear us, but it would probably work better that way. It would probably. But. So let's do our plug. Oh, yeah, our plug. This is, yeah, we're Slant Tail Podcast. This has been Episode 253. If you want to send us an email to our mail ball bag, copyright. Copyrighted. Trademark. U.S. made. Yep, copyright, trademark, everything. You can send it to slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. That's slamtiltpodcast at gmail.com. You can also check out our website, slamtiltpodcast.com. You can see the previous episode we had with Brian and Jarrett. Yes. That's how I found it. Which was called Celebratory Gunfire. Very weird title. Yeah, you made them, so I don't know where that came from. Ron makes 99% of the titles. So when I hear that, I'm like, where the fuck did he get that from? What should we call this one? Boards or Us? More boards?
    122:27
    Three RPC owners. No, that's boring. No one's going to ask it. Come on. It's got to be catchy or something.
    122:36
    I'll think of something. Steph's debacle. No, that's more like Ron's debacle on that one. And yet, we knew it was going to be attacked from Adam's family. If you called it Adam's family is overrated, I think that would be a big attention.
    122:52
    I like that. Or I think that's a win. That's a win. Should I say Adam's family or should I just say TAF is overrated? No, Adam's family. Lay it out. Okay. Lay it out. Lay it on the line. Is overrated one or two R's? I don't know. I have to look that up. Hey, don't forget flipping out pinball. You get your pinball machine from flipping out pinball. They're the best. They help us and support RPC. Don't forget, buy from Flippin' Out Pinball, who gets supported by RPC. We didn't even get any money for that. No, we didn't. How is he getting all this free advertising? He's just a good-looking guy. I think Zach may have gotten the Looney Tunes from Flippin' Out. I don't know. I think he did, too. He might have. See, so we support Flippin' Out Pinball. You should, too.
    123:48
    All right. I think that's it. Hello to everyone on the cluster, Buck. You go ahead, Bruce. Hey, Steve. Hey, Jeff. I'll be getting my Canadian money from you soon enough. Woo-hoo!
    124:00
    Ryan, see? I'll be getting your Australian money, too, mate. Everyone on the cluster, Buck. I think I'll end it by saying I'll see you all at Pinberg. Yes. The next two weekends will be off because I'm going to Pinnberg. And then the Beast. And then the next weekend is the Beast, which if you want to see Bruce, and Ron together, you can see both of us at the Beast. That's going to be the biggest draw for the Beast right now. It's just me and Ron together at his show. I agree. Totally agree. We can do autographs if you want. We can do autographs. They can set up a table. That'd be great. Fuck yeah. Totally should. That'd be good. That'd be fucking awesome. And thanks, Brian and Jared, for coming on. Thank you, guys. Once every five years. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for having us. Woo! Yeah, thanks for having us. All right. We'll see you in 2030. Yeah, there you go. 2030. See you all next time. Say goodbye, Bruce. Goodbye, Silver Bowl Chronicles. Hold my mind. Can you move me? Can you fly? Hold my mind. You can move me. If you strike, hold my fight, hold my fight, and I'll keep you alive.
    125:29
    Meteor! Level Zero! Clusterbuck! Socialist Guy! Jimball! Bruce in the Tournament Talk! Car Holder! Cheetah! Senadu! Cash Crab ELO Ball Pay What you buying? Give you love Give you hate Turn it up Give up right now Now Oh my Goodbye, Silver Bowl Chronicles.
    126:35
    What do you mean? I didn't mention it. You didn't, and that's why I plugged him at the end. I'll leave it that way. That's going to be perfect. I love that. I'm sitting there going, he's going to forget. He's going to fucking forget. It's funny. I have it right in front of me. I have plugs, and then next to it, it says Silver Ball Chronicles. I put it there specifically, and I still forgot it.