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#58 Terminator 2 - The Classic Pinball Podcast

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·44m 13s·analyzed·Jul 27, 2021
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TL;DR

Classic Pinball Podcast explores T2's legacy and Dave's restoration of a 1991 Williams game.

Summary

George and Dave from The Classic Pinball Podcast discuss and play Terminator 2 (1991), a landmark Williams pinball machine designed by Steve Ritchie. Dave walks through the game's history, technical specifications (15,000 units produced, first with video mode and swing-out cannon), and extensive restoration work he performed including LED upgrades, cannon mechanism repair, and aesthetic modifications. They then play the game, demonstrating core mechanics like multiball, ramp shots, and the chase loop, while discussing gameplay objectives and strategy.

Key Claims

  • Terminator 2 produced 15,000 units, making it one of Williams' highest production games of that era

    high confidence · Dave states this directly as a known fact about the game's production run

  • T2 was the first Williams game planned to feature video mode, but Gilligan's Island shipped first due to delays

    high confidence · Dave clarifies: 'First game with a video mode... it was delayed, so Gilligan's Island was the first one'

  • Terminator 2 was released close to the movie's theatrical premiere, which affected what assets were included in the game

    high confidence · Dave confirms timing strategy: T-1000 character wasn't shown prominently until after the movie released

  • Steve Ritchie intentionally included the 'Fire at Will' voice line as a humorous jab at actor Will Wheaton

    medium confidence · George and Dave discuss Ritchie being a Star Trek fan who disliked Wesley Crusher character; they modify the playfield with a Will Wheaton cutout

  • The swing-out cannon on T2 and Star Trek Next Gen uses grease that hardens into a glue-like substance after 20 years

    high confidence · Dave describes the deterioration and restoration process he performed: 'They put some kind of grease on there that turns into glue after about 20 years'

  • WPC-89 board set is 'one of the best things Williams ever did' and highly reliable

    medium confidence · Dave characterizes the board set as very buildable and stable if not damaged by battery corrosion

  • Arnold Schwarzenegger provided custom voiceover work specifically for the T2 pinball machine

    high confidence · Dave states: 'Arnie did special sound clips for them' beyond what appeared in the movie

  • Scores exceeding 200 million points on T2 require mastery of multiple objectives

    medium confidence · George reads from an objective guide discussing the 'Eric Stone effect' requiring strategic objective sequencing

Notable Quotes

  • “Fire at will.”

    Arnold Schwarzenegger voice sample @ mid-episode gameplay — Signature catchphrase from the game that Steve Ritchie programmed as a humorous reference to Will Wheaton; becomes recurring joke throughout the episode

  • “Get the stupid jackpot.”

    Arnold Schwarzenegger voice sample @ during gameplay — Arnold's sarcastic line for super jackpot achievement; demonstrates the game's personality and humor

  • “They put some kind of grease on there that turns into glue after about 20 years.”

    Dave @ restoration discussion segment — Key technical insight about T2's cannon mechanism deterioration; identifies a common problem in machines of this era

  • “I'm just LED curious.”

    Dave @ late in episode — Self-aware joke about his extensive LED modifications to the machine; plays on the playful tone of the restoration discussion

  • “You have to, uh... Line everything up.”

    Dave @ gameplay discussion — Summarizes the strategy required to reach 200 million point scores on T2; reflects the game's depth

  • “I think it's one of the movies I've actually watched and actually like.”

    Dave @ early conversation — Hosts acknowledge their familiarity with the Terminator 2 film, providing context for appreciating the machine's design

  • “It's kind of unique, too, that this game is kind of half plastic ramp and half habitrail.”

    George @ gameplay analysis — Observational comment about T2's hybrid ramp design philosophy; shows design innovation appreciation

Entities

Terminator 2gameSteve RichiepersonGeorgepersonDavepersonDoug WatsonpersonChris Grannerperson

Signals

  • ?

    restoration_signal: T2 and Star Trek Next Gen swing-out cannons suffer from grease hardening into glue after ~20 years; repair involves disassembly, cleaning, and spring replacement using cut shooter rod springs or Marco-sourced components

    high · Dave describes comprehensive repair process: 'took that all apart, removed all that gluey stuff... made it nice and smooth again. Now it's like butter.'

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Dave performed extensive LED upgrades including pop-up bumper color changes to clear red with internal LEDs, Hunter Killer ship engine lighting, backbox searchlight effects, and warm GI lighting throughout playfield

    high · Detailed list of modifications: 'color-changing LEDs... clear red top, clear red body... red LED inside... red GI at the top lane guides'

  • ?

    product_concern: Gun trigger (crotch breaker) springs on T2 and similar games become internally broken from heavy use, requiring pull-hard mechanics; Williams applied problematic lubrication that hardens over time

    high · Dave notes: 'the spring is broken internally, so you've got to really pull it hard... Williams special glue, which is actually their lubrication that turns into glue'

  • ?

    design_innovation: T2 pioneered video mode and swing-out cannon as first-of-kind features in Williams pinball, though video mode was initially planned for T2 but delayed (Gilligan's Island shipped first)

    high · Dave: 'First game with a video mode... it was delayed, so Gilligan's Island was the first one, but they were planning to be this one here, T2'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: T2 features non-linear objective structure with multiple scoring paths; 200+ million point scores require strategic sequencing of objectives rather than single focus (Eric Stone effect referenced)

Transcript

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0:00
As before, the Resistance was able to send a lone warrior, a protector for John. It was just a question of which one of them would reach him first.
0:30
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George, and today I'm joined by my co-host Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George. Well, folks, we're doing the border crossing again. We're back in Massachusetts at Dave's house to talk about a game that's going to a customer in the next couple days, Terminator 2. Dave, can you start us off and give us a little bit of background on this game? Sure. Terminator 2, Williams, July 1991. This is a Steve Ritchie game. And it is the first game to feature video mode. First game with a swing-out cannon.
1:30
And first game with a standard dot matrix display. Supposed to be the first game. Actually, it was delayed, so Gilligan's Island was the first one, but they were planning to be this one here, T2.
1:44
Also, the people who've seen the movie, of course, the liquid metal guy, Robert Patrick, the T-1000. It was supposed to be a secret about that in the movie, so they kind of didn't show him prominently in the game until the movie was finally released, and they did put a little animation with him opening a door and getting shot by Arnie with a shotgun in a graphic, in a DMD graphic, an extra ball scene.
2:11
Let's see. The production of the game was 15,000 units, so high production game. That many? Yeah, 15,000. Was that one of their highest? I'd say one of their highest. Anything over like 13,000 and above. high production. 20,000 around there, that's top. I want to stop you for a second. This machine was released close to the movie opening? Yes, it was. So that's why certain assets weren't in the game? Correct.

  • Doug Watson was the artist for T2 and worked on numerous classic games including Big Game, Quicksilver, Dragon Fist, and Indiana Jones

    high confidence · Dave provides Watson's game credits as confirmation of his role on T2

  • The T2 cannon mechanism can be repaired by replacing the internal spring, which can be cut from a standard shooter rod spring

    high confidence · Dave describes the repair procedure: 'you can just take, cut a regular return spring from a shooter rod, cut it down the right way, and it works the same'

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    high · Guide states: 'This game does not have one single objective... Scores over 200 million require using more than one possibly all objectives'

  • ?

    licensing_signal: T2 features licensed audio from Terminator 2 film plus custom Arnold Schwarzenegger voiceover work recorded specifically for the pinball machine; T-1000 reveal was withheld until after movie release

    high · Dave confirms: 'Arnie did special sound clips for them' and 'they didn't show him prominently in the game until the movie was finally released'

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    market_signal: T2 produced 15,000+ units during 1991 peak era, qualifying as one of Williams' highest-production games alongside other major releases; indicates strong market demand

    high · Dave: 'The production of the game was 15,000 units... Anything over like 13,000 and above. high production. 20,000 around there, that's top.'

  • ?

    historical_signal: Steve Richie embedded humorous reference to Will Wheaton in T2 via 'Fire at Will' Arnold voice line; Richie is known Star Trek fan who disliked Wesley Crusher character; modern collectors appreciate this Easter egg

    medium · George and Dave discuss: 'Steve Richie's a Star Trek fan... he doesn't care for Wesley... found a humorous way to take out his pent-up... aggression on Mr. Wheaton via an Arnold quote'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: T2 employs mixed ramp construction combining plastic ramps with habitrail-style sections; one ramp is half-metal, half-plastic; reflects designer innovation in playfield flow

    medium · George observation: 'this game is kind of half plastic ramp and half habitrail... it's kind of unique... half metal... this is like a real hybrid'

  • ?

    content_signal: Classic Pinball Podcast combines historical deep-dive with hands-on gameplay demonstration; episode includes machine restoration documentation, designer background, and real-time play commentary

    high · Episode structure: historical facts → restoration details → gameplay with mechanical explanations

  • ?

    restoration_signal: T2 restoration included flipper rebuild as standard maintenance procedure; reflects wear patterns expected on 30-year-old machines

    medium · Dave mentions: 'Rebuilt the flippers'

  • ?

    operational_signal: T2 features operator-adjustable settings that allow conservative or liberal play configurations; timing-based settings provide primary customization lever for difficulty balance

    medium · Dave when asked about settings: 'Timing settings, I think. That's about it. So it's pretty much standard out of the box.'

    • 2:44
    Okay, I don't know the game that well, so I don't know what is and what isn't missing. Yeah, so just, there's a T-1000 a liquid metal villain. No, I was watching it the other day for the upteenth time. This is one of the movies I've actually watched and actually like. Wow. So no going at me of, George, you don't know this movie, do you? No, I do know this movie. I only got so far the other night because we were dog sitting yet again, and Cooper had an accident, and it wasn't from the back end. It was from the front end. just leave it at that while i was watching the movie so he was not in uh he was not very well revered at that point in time so you're gonna rename him puker uh it is one of the nicknames he has uh he has acquired over time actually i call him bob puker wonderful wonderful that's good times Good seat, sir. You're in the wrong seat, buddy. Come on. Oh, I was being frustrated. So continue. I'm sorry. That's right. Art by Doug Watson. Famous Doug Watson. He's done a lot of games back in the day, especially in the classic Stern segment. So what's his claim to fame? Big Game, Quicksilver, Flight 2000. He did Dragon Fist, Split Second. Then for ballet stuff, he did Kings of Steel, Fireball Classic he did we've only done one of his games before Quicksilver that's when we first got started so we've got a couple on that list that we might come to no promises, soon and Indiana Jones of course which I just restored back a couple, about a year ago yeah that's one we haven't done on but maybe it'll come through here at some point too bad we didn't, it did come through here I know we didn't do it, I had that all through I don't know, we had something come up I'm sure And it had to go. So there you go. I mean, think about it. I've seen you more times in the last month than I saw you in the previous year and a half. Although Black Knight 2000 is coming up soon to be restored, so that'll be one to do. Well, we played that. The last time I played that was at Pentastic two years ago. Wasn't that one of the finalists? It was. Okay. That was the one that was winning multiple years, I think, that one. It was a beautiful game, if I recall. Granner, of course, did the music and sound. You can tell by the music and sound it's Chris Granner. That's what he did back in the times. So did they use actual sound clips from the movie? They did. Well, they used the music was definitely, you know, da-da-da-da-da, you know, that T2 music. They used Arnold's voice. Arnie's definitely loxiquint initiated, you know, that stuff. Okay. You know, his little Austrian thing.
    5:44
    I don't remember that in the movie. No, that wasn't in the movie. Oh. But Arnie's. I was going to say, I don't remember that. Arnie did special sound clips for them. Okay. And in fact, there's a little fact. I mean, thinking of how big a movie star that man is, it's kind of amazing that he even did the voiceover work for this game.
    6:08
    Yeah, he, I mean, I can't see they're going to pay him a heck of a lot of money to do it. I think it's more like, well. I don't think he really needs it. No, well, Arnie, we're going to put your face in the front of this game and it's going to be all about you. And so, you know, an homage to you, Arnie. I know it's something that a lot of people of providence in Hollywood want to have their face on things. So that makes sense. And a lot of people strive to be on a pinball machine for whatever reason.
    6:38
    I got a factoid, an interesting little side note about Steve Ritchie. So, as you know, Steve Ritchie's a Star Trek fan. He's not going to yell at us, is he?
    6:47
    No. Well, I don't know. I don't think so. I think he'll like this. He's a Star Trek fan. He made Star Trek Next Gen. He made T2 prior to. T2 inspired him to design Star Trek Next Generation a few years later. Steve, along with other Star Trek fans, really loathed the actor Will Wheaton as Will portrayed the awkward, geeky, science-dwee Wesley Crusher on the show. He's the guy I see on, what's the TV show? with Sheldon. Yeah, they're always... Yeah, Will, his arch-nemesis. Arch-nemesis, well, yeah, there you go. Okay. I'm not a Star Trek fan. I wouldn't know him if I traveled. Well, I'm glad you brought the reference in about the... What's it, not Third Rock from the Sun? Whatever that show is. Oh, something theory.
    7:39
    Oh, the Big Bang Theory. Yeah, that one there, yeah. Steve found... So he doesn't care for Wesley. He doesn't care for Will Wheaton. and a lot of Star Trek fans didn't either. So Steve, you know, being a humorous guy, he found a humorous way to take out his pent-up, obsessed aggression on Mr. Wheaton via an Arnold quote in the game. So he had Arnie do this quote, and the quote, of course, is, Fire at will.
    8:08
    Oh, gee. You guys are screwy. Yes. What is wrong with you? What is really wrong? Dad jokes abound on this dopey show. You're like, do you go and look this stuff up just to play it? I make it up on the top of my head. But, George, it's going to get better. You'll see the game. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. When you go downstairs, you're going to see. I can't wait.
    8:35
    Terrific. Okay. Anything else you want to talk about this game? You should talk about what you did to the game that you're sending off. to your customer. Alright, so what we did to this game. This game was a pretty nice example to start with. Nice play field. Took it all apart, of course. The top side stripped it down. But what?
    9:01
    You had to repair something. Oh, of course. Oh yeah, the gun. The guns on these games, the turret gun and on Star Trek Next Gen, they... You mean the crotch breaker?
    9:14
    No, not that. No, that's a different gun. That's the gun trigger, the gun handle. That thing there, just like in Indiana Jones and the other games, that is the crotch breaker. You run into that thing, you're the wrong height or whatever, ouch. You're going to be a soprano. But I'm talking about the actual cannon that goes back and forth. That Star Trek Next Gen has two of them. This game has one of them. This is the first game that utilized this. They put some kind of grease on there that turns into glue after about 20 years. And so when you first turn the game on, when I had it, when I first was working on it, it was going, it's hardly even turning. It's struggling. Is it moved by a motor? A motor. Okay. Motor's trying to turn it. That's probably not very good for it. And struggling. And so I took that all apart, removed all that gluey stuff, and, you know, made it nice and smooth again. Now it's like butter. Clean, clean, clean. Happy, happy.
    10:08
    And, you know, adjusted the switches on that. Rebuilt the flippers. Oh, actually, another thing I did is rebuild all the pop-up bumpers too, but instead of using the white bodies with opaque red skirt and a clear top, I went and upgraded with a clear red top, clear red body, and clear red skirt, so it's all clear red and put a red LED inside each one of them. And I also put red GI at the top lane guides up there, so that's all red. Arnie lights Arnie eyeballs when they put the T the 101 model 101 that what he is that exoskeleton thing at the top of the game it looks like the guy from Futurama who is the robot from Futurama with the eyes that are out like Bender Bender It like Bender They put Bender eyes in this thing Not exactly. Pretty much. I have a little bit better analogy. Okay, what's your analogy? When I was in high school, one of my friends had a dog who had a nickname. He was a male dog. His name was Humper. Okay. Do I need to go any farther? Oh. Yeah. Okay. That's kind of what the eyes look like. I see. Yeah. I don't want to. Okay. In code. You can get it. Oh, you can get it. Right. Just think about it. The gears will turn. Right. If you've ever had to shake Wolfie off your leg, you get what I'm talking about.
    11:47
    Okay. Well, there's that. So, other people have the same problem with the game. They said, that's got to be something better. So someone designed these LEDs, bright red LEDs with like a metal surround that looks perfectly like the actual movie eyes he had. And I put those in instead. Way better. It looks just way more how it's supposed to be in the first place. So those are in there.
    12:12
    What else did I do in the game? I put color-changing LEDs in the back box where the hunter-killer ships are. So it looks like they have roving search lights in the back glass. I put red LEDs over where the Terminator lettering is up there, some blue LEDs for the sky and the searchlights up there. So a lot of little LED tricks I did on the back glass.
    12:38
    It doesn't sound like you had any real issues, board issues? Well, no. I did go through the boards. What board set is this again? This is the WPC board set, really reliable board set, one of the best things Williams ever did. So WPC-89 that we talked about, I think, in our last episode? Yeah. One of our last episodes? Good stuff. Very buildable, especially if it doesn't get any alkaline damage from the battery, of course. But with this one, it didn't. So, you know, NVRAM, all that stuff, free-volt to five volts on the main driver board, that kind of thing.
    13:13
    Oh, the gun trigger, the crotch breaker there. That always, on all these games, it's always been so used up that the spring is broken internally, so you've got to really pull it hard to make it go. So it's mechanical? It's mechanical, and it pushes a little micro switch at the end of it. So you can change out the micro switch too, which I usually do just in case, but you've got to take apart the whole gun. You've got to replace the spring in there,
    13:43
    which actually you can get it from Marco, but you actually can just take, cut a regular return spring from a shooter rod, cut it down the right way, and it works the same. So I put that in there, cleaned it all up, especially they had that Williams special glue, which is actually their lubrication that turns into glue. That was in there, so I got rid of that, buffed the whole gun trigger. So no lubricant moving forward? You keep it clean? No, for that one there, I put in some special stuff from Steve Young. He has some special EM lubrication he sells. So Steve Young's EM juice. EM juice, yes. I use that all the time. It's super slippery. It's great stuff. Hopefully it won't turn into glue down the road, but so far so good. So now the gun works like butter, like it's supposed to.
    14:31
    Oh, another thing I did was, oh, yeah, the Hunter Killer Ship, the one that is over the fire-at-will targets there on the left, the little, this five white stand-up.
    14:44
    So on that there, I decided to take some color-changing LEDs, real small ones that are on modern Stern games,
    14:52
    tuck them up inside each one of the engines there, have them face down, and wire that into the GI. So that's constantly showing different colored lights aiming down, so it's almost like it's search lighting the gamer on that area, and a little modification. Okay, so you did a lot of LED work. Yeah.
    15:13
    Anything else before we move to a little bit about the object of this game? If there is one. Oh, there's objects, sure. Well. Shoot the ramps. Well, let me read what I found. I kid, I kid. And you tell me how accurate this is. This game does not have one single objective. it revolves around many different objectives any one objective can be singled out and concentrated on to get a good score hence the eric stone effect right scores over 200 million require using more than one possibly all objectives that sounds like a pretty good score it is a pretty good score because i think my high score right now is 134 here's i asked dave before we got on and I think I learned enough to be dangerous on this game. It seems like there's three things you want to do. One is you want to get multi-ball. What's that involve? Hitting the target under the Terminator head, getting it in there again. It goes over to the cannon. You hit the cannon. If you hit the target, one of the five targets that's blinking, you get a multi-ball. Off you go. Would that be one thing? Yeah. Second thing would be ramp shots. I'm going to read it. Shooting ramp shots with red arrows, lights, advanced security levels. Originally, both lights are lit. But after either ramp has been made first time, they alternate. Okay, makes sense.
    16:47
    They reward you with a million dollars for each consecutive shot. Okay. And all ten security circles are complete. You advance to the high-scoring payback time. I think you were talking about that. Yeah. For 20 seconds. So there's a timed mode in here. There's a couple timed modes in here. And that's operator adjustable. I want to come back to that. Don't let me forget. Operator adjustments on it. It seems like there's quite a few different ways that you can either conservatively or liberally play this game.
    17:13
    There's six shots worth five million. These shots can be made repeatedly, and there's no required order that you have to hit them. And they list them. So that's two. And then I think the other third thing that I would say for people who've never played the game, the chase loop feature. Is that the loop that goes on the outside? The outside, yes. because you're being chased by the T-1000 in the big truck when you're on the bike. When the player shoots the ball around the chase loop once, he receives a quarter million points. The next rectangle in the line becomes flashing, half a million points. In the chase loop, a million light is flashing. Okay. One other cool thing about that. So do you have to do that consecutively without hitting anything else? Yeah, consecutively, and it times out. Oh, so that's hard, too. So they've made this a... And the neat feedback sound feature of that. The first time you shoot around there, the sound of a motorcycle escaping, going... And then the second time you do it, when you do it right away, then you have the sound of a big 18-wheeler. I'm going to leave it to you to point that out when we're playing. Okay.
    18:18
    Let's see. There's a video mode in the game. Again, I don't know if we'll get there. But that seems to be the basics. Is there anything else? I mean, I'm not going to read this one-page thing somebody put together. Is there anything else that you can think of for a novice or somebody who's never played the game like me? Yeah, there's the jackpot. The jackpot, you must load the cannon, shoot it from the ball pumper to the cannon, shoot it, and you'll get a jackpot, and then I think you'll get the multiball. You get the multiball, of course. once you get multi-ball shoot the ball in there again the target goes up so you can't get back there again the ball stays locked underneath Arnie and you have to go lock the other two balls or one of the two, lock both balls if you can if you lock one ball and then I think shoot the target then the ball will pop over the cannon and you'll get a two times super jackpot if you block two balls so all three balls are locked it'll come over and get it three times and that's gets really lucrative because then you can get uh i think millions of points 10 20 and 30 million points respectively and the funny thing is as you'll hear in the game arnie will say you know get the jackpot but when it's super jackpot he will say get the stupid jackpot that's what it sounds like to me get the stupid jackpot the terminator head in target you can hit that multiple times in a ball? I'm throwing my dicks. If you're going to try to play this game, there's only a handful of shots you really need to master. I'm sure they're not easy, but... They're not. They're kind of tight. There are some tight shots in there to get, and it's tough to backhand. You can backhand the Arnie target shot, but it's tough. Okay. And sometimes it comes straight down the middle, too.
    20:16
    I know all about that. anything else about the game before we yeah one more thing I did warm LEDs all around except for in a couple warm colored LEDs under the insert lights but not too crazy because I don't like that flashy light effect I'm not going to start calling you Rainbow Dave am I? No no no very conservative on that warm GI all around and what else did we do we did clear titans all around or clear well pinball like version anyway silicone stuff clear silicone and some colored silicone for the post sleeves okay i just saw on this sheet that i'm reading it was written by a dean saint antoine from fontana california well here we are again down in the basement dave's gonna start us off playing a two-player game of terminator 2 go ahead Dave get us going alright George one thing do you notice the hunter killer ship there do you notice anything special about that I modified it yes I noticed the face and the name Will Wheaton so I did a cut out of Will Wheaton as an ensign and I put a big sticker that says Will on him so he's very prominent and he's flying the hunter killer ship so when Arnie says fire at Will we're going to be firing at Will He would.
    21:47
    He would. We're doing this for you, Steve. All right? Yeah. Okay. Nice looking game. Lights look great. Dave's going to plunge. So this has got a cross plunge This does not go all the way to the top of the game No the skill shot Did I not get the skill shot How much does the skill shot work I think it 1 million 2 million 3 million every time you get it It goes up and up and up
    22:18
    Right now I'm hitting... So far Dave has shot nothing. Let's see if I can go around. There we go. Okay, so that just went up the left side. Oh, why did it come back? Because it's a saucer. Oh, so it doesn't get caught or anything? It just goes up and then comes back? It goes up and comes back. It picks things up and puts things down. Oh, this has got a... I lift things up, I put them down.
    22:43
    So it's got a kicker. Are we allowed to call it a kicker on the left-hand side? Yeah, why not? Okay, well, because I think every time we... Oh, I got denied. There you go. Oh, there you go. So Dave just loaded up the cannon. Listen, here it goes. Fire at will. Here we go. There. Oh, and he hit it. I fired at Will. Now, it went too fast for me. So he's got multi-ball already. I do. You're telling me that you got schnookered on this game. You didn't get schnookered. Well, there we go. Now we've got a ball locked. Now we've got a party. Oh, okay. So I didn't even realize that. There's a saucer on the left-hand side that locks the ball. It's a timed shot right now. You've got four seconds to get another lock. to get what locked?
    23:30
    Oh, you just did. Why did it come out? No, I got to do it again. There we go. I have to get... Oh, you son of a bitch.
    23:37
    All right, I'm just going to give it back to me. Lock the ball, eight seconds. Oh, get the jackpot. Here we go. Fire it well. Now, does that white light move or no?
    23:46
    Awesome. Guess not. No, it stays there. Oh, I thought that white light moved. Well, for the super jackpot, it moves, but not for the regular one. Ah, okay. The stupid jackpot, as Arnie says. Get the stupid jackpot. So we're going to try to get the stupid jackpot in a second.
    24:02
    Let's see. Well, so far, Jay's got 15 million points. I don't know if that's good or bad, but it's... Oh, yeah. Okay, so he's lost two out of the three balls. It's down to one now. And there's a lot of rubber on this game, from what I can see. Yeah, there sure is. And I'm hitting all of them.
    24:25
    Okay, I... There's a lot of stuff going on here for somebody who's never played the game before. Okay, so Dave just got in the left saucer.
    24:38
    Now, did you select that or did the game... No, it did by itself. Okay, Dave just got it up into the upper... Multipliers. The upper lanes. There's three upper lanes.
    24:50
    Warning, what did you do? Oh, I had to tilt. Oh, boy. Uh-oh. I think I hit it a little too hard. Maybe you'll give me a chance. Maybe. Okay, Dave's got a lot of stuff lit. I did until I just lost the ball. Okay, I got a bunch of questions.
    25:05
    I'll see if I have any answers, George. I'll try to have some answers for you. Now, these CPU lit lights. Yes. Oh, so they started off unlit. Right. So you had a lot of those lit. And you want to get the one, see, it says million when flashing. I think you want to hit that one. Oh, and now for the skill shot, it does move. Yeah, so you've got to time it. I think it's the second from the top is when you want to do it. Oh, you got it, George. You got a direct hit. I'm a quick starter. Look at that. Look at you go. Okay, so let's try Terminator Head. All right. You got that. Oh, that's right. This game's got a middle post between the flippers, which is awesome.
    25:47
    All right. George is trying to go for that Arnie head. Going around. I've got the saucer at the top. Oh, okay. So it does drop into the lane sometimes. It does, sometimes. Oh, I just got open. Hey, lane change. What's that do? That gets a multiplier, George. So I have... You're two times right now. And how many multipliers can you get on this game? Up to eight. Up to eight? Yep.
    26:09
    Oh, so you can build a gigantic boat. You certainly can. No, that doesn't help. Okay, so I'm getting killed right now. Not a bad first time out. We got 19 million to 3 million. Hello? I got a direct hit. Okay, so that just took you to 20 million. So you're right, it's a million points.
    26:29
    You got a lot of stuff. Give me a ball save. Why is all that stuff lit up? That's a good question. I don't know why that's flashing. I don't know, George. So I have very little lit up. Oh, I didn't notice that either. The Terminator head in the middle of the plate field. And by the way, every ball, it goes faster and faster. Now it's faster going back and forth. It's tougher and tougher. I'm looking to pull the I think it's every time you get it you got it the first time now it's going to make it harder now you've got two million for that ok so I've got to hit that target again yeah every time you hit those red targets you increase the left lane ok so I got it in the Terminator head take your best shot fire Will Wheaton fire him you missed Will Wheaton Missed him.
    27:21
    I'm not used to going for the grip, the handle. Okay. You know, I'm going to keep Wil Wheaton on here for the customer. He's going to appreciate it.
    27:35
    Yeah, he'll get it. He'll get your dad joke. Okay, George, how much more rubber? Call me the rubber band man. Holy crow. All right, George. He's getting rubber. Oh, no
    27:54
    This might be Sometimes he says hasta la vista baby his little mouth lights up because that has the la vista, baby That mouth lights up to it does it says I look at that. Oh, I saw it. Did it go to sit the light? I saw it kind of flicker Yeah, this game's got a lot of lights in it it does and it's got a lot of
    28:18
    A lot of bezels on the playfield. See, now I get them all up over there. Come on. See? Hasta la vista, baby.
    28:31
    Oh, you got it. He's got three million. That's three million? That's three million. Yep. No. Of course, George, you can tell I have a subwoofer on this game, too. No, it sounds... The whole game is... The base punch.
    28:46
    Again. Did I do good, George? You did great. I mean, you know I don't know a lot about these games, as do our audience. It's, uh, no, this is, I could, I think I could see myself playing this game a little bit more. This is fun. It's fun. Come up with something different. Well, I mean, my game, this game was... Come on, high action. Oh, come on. Baby. Okay. Hasta la vista, baby. That's it, right? That's it. 23 million to 10 million give me a we got a crushing match here no match George give me a chance to at least try to beat you I don't think I'm going to see there's that T2 music see they put that in there
    29:40
    we're going to come up with the Terminator song okay cabling by PJ oh and that's pretty cool too that uh that CPU lit thing that's a did you put LEDs under that thing I sure did I can see how nice and bright it is no it looks great I actually put color matching LEDs in there I don't know what's happening George I'm starting to turn this LED guy oh boy oh no not the whole somewhere Never mind You know what I'm just You know what George I figured out I'm just LED curious That's all You know where to send Cards Letters Emails Texts Instagrams Whatever End of the show And you wonder why I don't give out Our email address Very smart George Yeah Very wise Okay, start us up. Let's see if I can at least redeem myself. Probably not. This game's a little bit more complicated. Now, when it says Judgment Day, it says July 11, 2029. So that's coming up. So we actually should play this game on that date sometime and see what happens. Maybe the world will start turning backwards or something, or blow up, or maybe Arnie will come out. Who knows?
    31:06
    Oh, I missed it again. It's about the only thing I've done right. auto fire yes there we go off that one i like the colored the yellow colored post rubbers that you put on hey that's actually maureen wanted maureen decided blue ones now i'm starting to see a lot and some red and some red there behind there yeah you're uh you are color coordinated i'm thinking of calling this rainbow day okay let's see if i can hit this thing Nice, George. That's about the only thing I can do on this game. We got that going for you.
    31:46
    Okay, let's see if I can hit the Terminator head. Nope. And no ramp, no nothing. Rubber situation for you.
    31:55
    Red target in the middle. You have one more left to go there. Hit the same one again. See, those red targets will... Now you increased your left lane value.
    32:06
    Uh-oh. That's all right. You get a warning for that one. Ruh-roh. I thought you were a liberal with your tilt there. I am, but this one is... Yeah, I know. Uncle Tilty.
    32:18
    I'm going to tilt this thing. Oh, nice. Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. You know, Arnie says when you do tilt, eventually, he's going to say, chill out. Chill out. D'quad. I got to hit the head. Here we go. And I don't mean the bathroom. that's a great idea george right next thing i'm going to put a toilet from south park instead of the arnie head and you hit the toilet hit the head you know actually could you hit the head it'll be a toilet there it'd be a joke say hit the head okay there captain okay Okay.
    32:55
    There we go. Direct hit. All that for two million points. And Dave's already passed me. And he played like 30 seconds Not bad No I No I am bad You not bad I can imagine You gotta You really have to know how to score to get 200 million points on this thing. You do. You have to, uh... Line everything up. Yes. Okay, now this is the only thing I know how to do. So if you shoot this left lane here, that's worth something, I think. I got it again. So that was 2 million. Yes, you did. That is 2 million. Yep, now you got 4 million. And now I got the drain again.
    33:39
    Horrible. Well, folks, you're not getting a deep dive on this machine, unfortunately. Oh, there you go. You got that outside lane.
    33:54
    I want to get the truck making little truck sounds. Multi-ball. Like a normal platform. There. Will I get that? No, it didn't go in there, you bum.
    34:08
    Okay, there you go. Okay, there you go. Multiplier. Kick back, thank you. Okay, Dave is not hitting a lot of things. A lot of rubber.
    34:24
    There we go. Up top, get the lane. Oh, it came back. I don't like that. Why don't they have, like, a one-way gate there or something? I don't know. Because that lane is all important. It is.
    34:38
    To get the multiplier. If it comes back down, it kind of defeats the purpose. Get out.
    34:48
    Yeah, Dave's romping again. Okay. It's kind of unique, too, that this game is kind of half plastic ramp and half habitrail. Plastic ramp. And that one over there is half metal. Wow, this is like a real hybrid. I initiate the lock sequence.
    35:10
    Keep rubber matching. Bang. Nope, that's not it. So what are you trying to get, that last target? I want to get the Arnie hit. There we go. Okay, so you got the shot. Fire it. Get Wil Wheaton. Okay, so that five bank does not move, so boom, and you got it. Great shot. And you got multi-ball. I do. So what are some of the settings on this game that you can make it conservative or liberal? Is there anything that really stands out?
    35:44
    Timing settings, I think. That's about it. That's it. So it's pretty much standard out of the box. There. There you go. Terminator head. I'm going to get the stupid jackpot, I think. No, I didn't get the stupid jackpot. No, I thought for sure I got the stupid jackpot. He does sound like he says stupid. Get the stupid jackpot.
    36:08
    Oh, he didn't say it yet. So you got the chase loop. Here we go. Lock the ball. All right, well, give me the ball. I think Arnie's confused. Uh-oh. Doing a ball search? It's going to do a ball search in a second.
    36:21
    Here we go. Get the jackpot. So now you'll get... Oh, you get the fire because you lost the ball? I think the game just got confused there for a second. Yeah, something just... We've got to figure that out. Because it didn't shoot the ball out of the cannon. Well, because two balls got kind of... See, right now it's doing something. Let's see.
    36:42
    Okay, you got it in there again. You got it in the head. All right. Get the jackpot. Get the jackpot, all right.
    36:49
    Fire at will. I got will. Awesome. Okay, there you go. Jackpot. Oh, good. Oh, that's pretty good light, Joe. good sir this is a fun game yeah i like this one it's like a george and it could be yours if the price is right i don't even want to add you know do you have any idea what these things go for on the uh open market uh anywhere from got it again so i'm doing really well with that skill shot But if I didn't have that super... 4 to 8k. 4 to 8k? Yep. That's not... That's not super bad. Yeah.
    37:27
    Okay, head. Target. God! I don't like that. Oh, man. Rubber, rubber, rubber everywhere. Lock sequence initiated. Okay, so at least I got the kicker. Now let's see if I can get the head. And I got it. You got it. And here it comes. Oh, I got to grip this thing. I don't like doing that.
    37:58
    You missed Will. I hit it. That's right. Will misses you. I don't like that. Do you like Will? No. Initiated. Okay, so I can get that again.
    38:16
    You can. You got a passcode secured. No, no, no. There you go. You saved it, George. It's going to go up the left lane, but you got it. And there he goes. It's like a motorcycle. Oh, he almost got the truck. Oh, come on.
    38:33
    22 to 11 mil. Is that the end? I think that's the end. Okay, folks. Double 60 match. Can it happen? 16-60. Oh, almost did. No. One more game? Oh, we're going to play, but I'm going to cut it here because you...
    38:49
    Beat me twice. Okay. But let's put a pause in here. Hang on. All right. Well, there won't be a pause. Well, there will as soon as it stops this little music thing. It will.
    39:02
    So is this the attract mode? Yeah, it's kind of the end of the game attract mode. Like, hey, why don't you play again? Is there an attract mode for this game? Yeah. There is an attract mode? Yeah, it's right here. See? Attract mode. Okay.
    39:15
    Oh, okay. You're saying the music stopped. Yeah, it's like fun also the same thing. You finish a game and it's this whole light show for a while Once you put another quarter in When it realizes it can't When you walk away and it goes back to this track mode To track another sucker to play Do you think you'll ever put that game up again? Funhouse? Yeah We've never done Not my favorite game No well it's somebody else's Yeah I'll put it up Keep the peace I keep asking her if she wants it up again Excuse me? Well once in a while Excuse me? Maybe I don't keep asking never mind never mind that didn't come out right oh okay well that didn't come out that's a different show joy yes anyway okay let's put it let's put a break here break here no problemo dave who dave d-a-v-e yeah dave hey right hey dr dave here and if you're looking for that special game you remember playing from your youth, restored by craftsmen to look and play like new condition, look no further as we may have it here in a restoration queue. Among the ones that are finished and ready for your game room are a look and play like new 1979 ballet kiss with a new old stock clear-coated playfield and a look and play like new 1989 Gottlieb Caribbean cruise cocktail table multiplayer multi-ball pinball machine. The following is a list of games in a restoration queue currently. Just drop us a line to let us know which title you desire. Once you put a deposit down for that title, that title is marked for you. Drop us an email for more details at dave at pinballdoctor.com. That is pinballdoctor, all spelled out, p-i-n-b-a-l-l-d-o-c-t-o-r.com. For 1990s games, we have Doctor Who and Twilight Zone.
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    42:01
    Thank you.