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SDTM Episode 49: Black Rose Pinball Machine Review

Straight Down the Middle·video·33m 15s·analyzed·Feb 12, 2018
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TL;DR

SDTM reviews Valley's Skull and Bones (1992): unique pirate-themed shooter with solid layout but limited depth.

Summary

Zach Sharpe and Greg review Valley's 1992 DMD game 'Skull and Bones,' discussing its unique layout, System 11-inspired gameplay, pirate theme, and appeal as a solid mid-tier collector pin. The hosts rate it as a B-/C+ game overall—fun and affordable but lacking depth compared to contemporaries. They also discuss SDTM's upcoming one-year anniversary milestone and plug sponsors including Penn Stadium Lights and Marco Specialties.

Key Claims

  • Skull and Bones was released in 1992 by Valley

    high confidence · Hosts discuss the release year as 1992 and confirm Valley as manufacturer during overview section

  • John Trudeau designed Skull and Bones

    high confidence · Host states 'John Trudeau designed this game' during opening discussion

  • The game plays like a System 11 despite being a DMD

    high confidence · Multiple host statements: 'feels like a really good System 11' and 'just like typical System 11 gameplay'

  • The cannon mechanic shoots at the opposing ship and the ship shoots back down the middle of the playfield

    high confidence · Detailed description during gameplay review: 'you come out of the playfield to shoot a cannon at an opposing ship, but then it shoots back at you right down the middle'

  • SDTM is approaching their one-year anniversary milestone with target of 1,200+ subscribers

    high confidence · Host states: 'we said that to me, we didn't know if we would make it...we felt that we were going to be successful if we hit 1,200 subscribers in our first year' and 'we're literally just right there man...give us 1300 1400'

  • The game's objective involves spelling SINK SHIP and hitting the Davy Jones Locker to sink the opposing ship for 20 million points

    high confidence · Overview section explains: 'You spell the letters S-I-N-K S-H-I-P...once you get it all lit, you hit it into Davy Jones' Locker...you have one shot to hit that broadside to sink the ship and get 20 million'

  • The game does not come equipped with lightning flippers despite being designed to have them

    medium confidence · Host notes: 'I think on this game it is supposed to have lightning flippers but it didn't come with that. The previous owner didn't have that.'

  • Christopher Franchi designed the SDTM logo

    high confidence · Hosts state: 'Christopher Franchi designed the SDTM logo. Yeah.'

Notable Quotes

  • “It's a hell of a fun shooting game. It's very unique. Not the deepest, but they're hard to find.”

    Zach Sharpe @ Overview conclusion — Summarizes the appeal of Skull and Bones as a rare, playable machine with limited depth

  • “I would rather pay three thousand for a 'Skull and Bones' and I would the five fifty-five for a game [Terminator 2].”

    Greg @ Enjoyability section — Shows preference for Skull and Bones over contemporary premium machines based on gameplay feel despite lower price

  • “This game is shit. It's ugly. So ugly. I don't even think a good LED job would have done it any good. And then I did that and it's like, 'Skull and Bones' vault? Damn!”

    Greg @ Penn Stadium Lights discussion — Demonstrates the dramatic improvement LED lighting can make on an older, faded machine

  • “When you get rid of it, I know—give me a heads up. Let me know.”

    Zach Sharpe @ Enjoyability section — Shows emotional attachment to the machine despite rating it as a filler pin

  • “C is not average. C is—it's like, buddy, you could have done better. Step up your shit.”

    Zach Sharpe @ Grading scale explanation — Reveals the hosts' grading philosophy, placing C as below-average rather than at the mean

Entities

Skull and BonesgameValleycompanyJohn TrudeaupersonZach SharpepersonGregpersonChristopher FranchipersonStraight Down the MiddleorganizationFlip N Out PinballcompanyPenn Stadium Lights

Signals

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    community_signal: SDTM approaching one-year anniversary with plans to boost podcast presence and hit 1,200+ subscriber milestone; hosts seeking support via merchandise sales and iTunes reviews to sustain content production

    high · Explicit statement: 'we're coming up on our one-year anniversary...we felt that we were going to be successful if we hit 1,200 subscribers in our first year' and requests for YouTube subscriptions, iTunes reviews, and merchandise purchases

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Hosts discuss pinball grading rubric where B = good/solid performance, C = below-average performance, A = excellent; Skull and Bones rated B-/C+ places it as solid filler machine but not standout

    medium · Zach explains: 'A is like hell yeah. A C is like—C is kind of like an average...C is not great' and final ratings of B-minus to C-plus for the machine

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Skull and Bones exemplifies System 11-style gameplay design despite DMD-era hardware; focuses on ramp shots, jackpots, and multiball rather than rule complexity or wizard modes

    high · Host analysis: 'It plays like a System 11...There's not a lot of modes but there are jackpots and different awards that you have to get. There's not really a Wizard mode that I know of'

  • $

    market_signal: Skull and Bones positioned as affordable mid-tier collector machine at ~$3,000 compared to premium contemporaries like Terminator 2 at higher price points; supply scarcity increases desirability

    medium · Greg: 'I would rather pay three thousand for a 'Skull and Bones' and I would the five fifty-five for a game' and host notes: 'They are a lot of fun...They're hard to find. So if you can find one, I very much encourage it'

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Transcript

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1:12
Let's kick this shit. Thank you. Welcome to Straight Down the Middle, a pinball show. Here we are with another fantastic review this evening. I should have got a drink before we started this. Oh, we already started, so you're not getting a drink today, friend. Okay, what are we doing then? We are doing a Black Rose review. A Black Rose? Black Rose. Throwback. You guys ready? When did that come out, Greg? 19. Oh, that's a good start. 93. Oh, three. Let's check, because I don't know. I'm going to say 92. Yeah, I'd say 92, too, just because of the DMD and stuff. But there was a lot of DMDs that came out in 92. And I take that for granted, because I think of things like Lethal Weapon, Terminator. Who made it? Valley. Nice. Look at you. I'm so proud of you. You're not 92, so I'm right here again. Oh, shit. But, yeah, John Trudeau designed game. it's overall it's like a quirky fun game that I love it feels like a System 11 game to me it's like a really good System 11 well I like System 11 it's one of my favorite System 11s even though it's a DMD yeah it feels like I enjoy it so we're going to get into that anything that people need to know before we go to me giving them the overview buy a t-shirt always buy a t-shirt SDTM swag we hate pushing it on you guys but number one we're so proud of it yeah we are proud of it We're really proud of our artist series. Yes. Christopher Franchi designed logo, SCTM logo. Yeah. But we push it because that helps us. Honestly, we don't want to beg for money, but that helps us get to the shows and do all these kind of cool things for you. Definitely. All right. Let's go to the overview, and then you and I are going to sit down and review it. Ready?
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product_strategy: Penn Stadium Lights LED retrofit dramatically improves visual appeal of older, faded machines like Skull and Bones; vendor highlights transformation as key selling point

high · Greg demonstrates before/after with Penn Stadium LED set: 'I was like, 'Skull and Bones' vault? Damn! And it enhanced the playfield so well that it made it look like brand new' and buyer requested lights be kept on machine

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    product_concern: Bally manufacturing quality issues from specific era (noted with Cybernaut, Spy Hunter) created reliability concerns; hosts recommend avoiding certain production lines

    medium · Greg: 'Bally had some weird years there with like Cybernaut and Spy Hunter...It just sucked so bad. I stay away from those pins'

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    sentiment_shift: Initial aesthetic criticism of backglass and cabinet fading offset by strong playfield design appreciation; LED upgrade reverses visual perception significantly

    high · Zach: 'the ugliness of the back glass really made up for me with that play feel' and Greg's transformation: 'This game is shit. It's ugly...And then I did that and it's like, 'Skull and Bones' vault? Damn!'

    • 3:43
    All right, everybody. Black Rose. Let's go over this thing. Look at the shots and layout as well as some of the more basic rules.
    3:52
    This is a machine you don't see a whole lot, which is why I like it. It's also a machine that has a very unique layout.
    4:04
    All right, let's do in typical fashion what we do here at SDTM Overviews. Left to right, it's a three-flipper game. Two down here, one top right.
    4:17
    All right, from left to right. well before i miss uh the in lane out lanes are responsible for locking uh lighting locks so you go over those and you have to light the locks there all right left orbit it's not really an orbit this game is so unique in its layout so instead of an orbit it goes up and it locks in there it shows you a little window which is kind of cool and then it's got a kickback that will kick it up and back out now this is responsible for lighting this lock lighting lock one and two. In this game you're going to start a two ball multi ball before you start the three. It's also responsible for a little jewel that you can get and a special as well. All right this is your left ramp. The left ramp is really neat on this game. It goes up behind the enemy ship and comes out right there for your upper right flipper shot. All right this left ramp is responsible for jackpot. This is a really fun jackpot in this game. Like many System 11s, I know this is a DMD, but it plays like a System 11. It will go nuts whenever you get that jackpot shot. And that's essentially your payoff in Black Rose or those jackpot shots, just like any old System 11. All right. Now you got stand-up targets here that are responsible for, what are these things? I think they're like, it's either fire or gunpowder or something. anyway you hit all three of those and you're going to lift up this upper ramp the davy jones locker see let's see if i can get in there let's get a scoop down there now that scoop under that ramp is going to load your cannon that's right the ball goes down in there and then it will rotate like so once you have it in there and then you press the fire button it will come see if i can get this thing up up out of there and it will shoot the ball now you're going to try oftentimes to shoot it to the broad side see back in there that's the enemy ship that you're trying to sink but to that in a minute all right so when this lift ramp is down there's the scoop. When that is down, that's a repeatable, like a warp ramp on Star Trek Stern. It'll go up behind your enemy ship, and it'll feed right back down to the splitter. See? Okay.
    6:51
    This is a neat little shot. It's like an upper play field in that it's straight up like a wood shot there but it has this little flap that you can roll up this is I'm going to call this an inner orbit because it'll just it orbits right around here and then it drops see it's a little dirty back here it drops out and comes right out that now you can hit that by this right upper flipper it's kind of cool because you've got a couple options as to shots you can go for under the ramp, up the ramp, back to the orbit there. All right, continuing onward.
    7:35
    You have your cannonball stand-up targets there. Okay, then that's that broadside shot. You're going to find in Black Rose, you're going to be shooting a lot of that. Okay, the broadside is going to get you a lot of points as well as your different modes, if you will. They're not really modes though. There's seven random modes slash awards. Millions, if you start that up, each ramp is worth a million, right? And it'll give you music that gets fired up and it's really fun. Rigging swing is a video mode that you try to swing onto another ship Treasure chest I believe is a I believe it a random award Walk the plank is another video mode where you try to get away from a shark by hitting those flippers as fast as you can. Instant multiball is what it sounds like. Knife is a video mode where you throw a knife and try to hit a target super freaking hard. I don't think I've ever even got it. Polly is a random award where Polly comes up on the screen and says, right, Polly wants 500,000 or something like that. No. All right, you got your pops here.
    8:54
    Right. Oh, broadside. When you hit it up there, it's a buck, and it goes boom, and it shoots it right through there like a laser, just like that enemy ship is shooting that cannonball right at you. and he goes and it comes out kicks off right there and safely to your right flipper now you see you see where it safely goes right there don't you yeah little chippy okay usually black roses are pretty tore up this one's pretty nice the sink ship inserts aren't that bad all right let's go back up all right stand up targets right there responsible for your it's probably rum or gunpowder right there right ramp I love this right ramp shop right ramp shot guys it's a whirlpool it spins around and it goes back down sorry to make you busy safely to that left flipper the cool thing about it is is that it is repeatable and you build up bonus or build up points the first time you hit it 100,000 200 300 400 and you can even get your extra ball and million shot right there but a very very satisfying rim if you do not hit it hard enough it will fall into the pops there see okay right orbit is really not a right orbit at all you're gonna hit it up it's gonna advance your combos jewel 1k 2k 4k 8k but that's all in the pops so it comes up and it loops around here and it puts it right back into the pops for you man this game is fun okay what else you need to know about it. Alright, so the object of the game. I guess there's a couple objects of this game. The object is to get through your seven. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven of the little awards. Once you do that, it lights the jackpot to the left ramp. But ultimately what you're trying to do is sink that ship right there. You spell the letter sink ship through a number of different ways. It'll spot you for the first ship. I think it spots you as sink and you have to spell ship. But once you get it all lit, you hit it into Davy Jones' locker, everything goes black. You load the cannon. The entire game is black and you've got one shot to hit that broadside to sink the ship and get 20 million. It's very, very satisfying when you do that. The game goes nuts. again like typical system 11 gameplays there's not a lot of modes but there are jackpots and different awards that you have to get to there's not really a wizard mode that i know of you just try to see how many ships you can sink she sells sea shells by the seashore all right i think on this game it is supposed to have um lightning flippers but it didn't come with that uh the previous owner didn't have that. So that's it guys. That's Black Rose. It is a hell of a fun shooting game. It's very unique. Not the deepest, but they're hard to find. So if you can find one, the Backglass City is too, but if you can find one to play, I very much encourage it.
    12:13
    Ooh! I like it! It's fun. I mean, it's not going to blow you away, but it's a nice game. It's always a solid fun pin to have in your collection. It is. If I could continue building a collection. I do think it maybe belongs in a little bit larger collection. But it's a neat pin and the theme's awesome. Let's start out with art then. Is this a looker? I like it. It's not top of my list, but I like the play field.
    12:43
    And I kind of like the cabinet. I really like the play field. As long as it's not faded. They're all faded. yeah yours wasn't that's right it was nice that's right but a back glass it's one of the other back glasses in pinball yeah it's okay so i came in at a b minus i'm gonna be minus two so the ugliness of the back glass really made up for me with that play feel i love the play feels neat because it feels like you're on a ship yeah it feels like you're really battling just with the art alone feels like you're battling that opposing ship yeah you get the water in between you've got the capture they captured it very well and it feels like you're on part of the deck with the ramps and stuff i agree you go behind the uh we'll talk about that here in a minute so i'm going to be minus nothing to blow your socks off of but i like looking at it the side art's fine it's kind of plain um but it's it's effective i like the side you know the head the head decals are my favorite part of this whole pin that stormy sea with the pirate ship on it that is the greatest art on this pin is that head decal i can agree let's go to shots and layout so shots and layout you kind of Or low-ish? It has a B- on that as well. I think... It's got some cool shots. They're neat. They're fun.
    13:56
    It's unique. I don't see... I've not seen that layout before. No, I probably should have went higher than a B-. But it just doesn't... Nothing inspired you? Yeah, nothing really just made me feel like I've just got to keep shooting this. Yeah, I get that. For me, it's an A. Yeah, it's an A. And I'll tell you what. It's pretty varying. Yeah. An A because this is a unique layout, and the reason I seek out Black Roses to play is the layout. Because I love, you know me, I'm a sucker for a ramp that lifts up like on Dracula, and you've got to scoop under it. I'm a sucker for that. Then it goes into a subway cannon.
    14:31
    You shoot the cannon. And the cannon shoots back at you. I like that. That's more toys innovation kind of thing. You've got a left orbit to lock balls. That's kind of cool. And it's a see-through thing. you've got the ramp is cool too because the two ramps the one ramp goes behind the other ship and you lose it and comes back and goes into an orbit and the other whirlpool ramp goes around but it's a lot of center shot center shot I guess that's more code yeah but I'm with you yeah rules speaking of code I'm gonna see plus I think you were too yeah I'm inspiring yeah that's good there's no mode no it's you're trying to hit the ramp to get an extra ball that way to You're trying to get the jackpots. You're trying to get the multi. Now, I will say, when you're in multi ball and you get a jackpot shot, that is a good feeling. It is. It does feel good. It is exciting. Otherwise, I mean, you're collecting barrels. You're collecting. Yeah, it's not.
    15:27
    It is what it is. Yeah, it's a decent. You build up your bonus. System 11, kind of a little bit of a lackluster DMD. If you have a DMD, you need a little more than that. That's why I'm at a C+. I agree. Toys and innovation. you're still the B- and it's hard because to me it comes out of the play field to shoot a cannon at an opposing ship but then shoots back at you right down the middle of the play field it's a one really good gimmick it's really good it's nice, that's not bad I like the sword, what looks like a sword to me that's what I feel it is when it comes down at you yeah, it's made just to be like a sword like a um it's well it's made to be the cannonball shooting from that ship at you yeah but to me it looks like a sword the way it comes down it's got the the what's that called uh oh i know what you're talking about the uh starts with a t don't it it's so bad that we don't know what that is but i don't yeah the guard like that's on yeah you know we should have done this whole review talking like captain barbasa now we there ladies are you a knew it I need a PBR I just had to roll with it I knew that from the start that it came out wrong. You're really going to roll with it. I just had to roll with it. That's what you're taught as an actor. If you commit to something, you don't break. You just go with it. It's improv, isn't it? You just go. Continue. Never say no. And pray that no one notices. I noticed. I noticed that one. That's got me a little rough. Oh, man. All right. Okay, but back to that. Moving on. The canon is fantastic.
    17:13
    I'm going to be plus. You're going to be minus. You are far off your ass. Yes. You old scallywag. What day is that? There's like a day of the year to talk like a pirate. I think it's in September.
    17:26
    When I hear it on the radio or something, I just start talking like a pirate. I don't pay attention. My family by 2 o'clock is like, please. Please, please. All my patients at work, I'm like, how does that make you feel? Oh, that's right.
    17:41
    Well, okay. I need to reschedule. That's right. They're like, shit, it's talked like a pirate. He does this shit. I fell on this last year, too. They got that specifically marked on their calendar. Do not go to the doctor today. All right. Music and call-outs. So do you get a lot of that discussion and talk? Not really. No. It's kind of weird. I mean, it's kind of cool that they didn't make it real corny and stupid like that. I'm not crazy about the call-outs at all. No, I'm not. Music's – I'm going to B because I like the music. It feels like a System 11 upbeat kind of music. I like that. I was going to C+. You're just slightly above average in average. Yeah, the call-outs do kind of suck. I do like the parrot during Mystery. He's like, oh, they want a jackpot. Or something like that. That's kind of cool. Theme. I guess it's its own original theme, Black Rose. but it is based on pirates and I love pirates I'm in the A- I like pirates a lot too and this is like some Captain Morgan pirates kind of stuff it always goes back to that doesn't it I guess you know I mean it's pirates are cool there's so much to do with pirates there's ships, there's stealing, there's rum There's promiscuity. Yeah, this captures a little bit of that. There's parrots. Yeah, this is more of the PG. I just turned into Mr. Krabs for some reason. Sorry. All right, so theme, I'm going to be plus. I'm glad at least that was PBR Hillbilly, the Mr. Krabs. Pirate. I mean, you've got to give me that. I'm getting red now. I like Mr. Krabs. Okay, theme, I'm going to be plus. I love the Pirates theme. it's not the best pirate theme but it's pirates I'll take pirates in the day of the week was that a redo?
    19:38
    it's almost a mix of ours you're going to get no acting gigs for a pirate I don't look like a pirate the hillbilly pirate you need a Netflix series the hillbilly pirate we'll get you on YouTube the hillbilly pirate wow all right let's go to enjoyability do you like it in your game room does it stay long do you go back to it over and over again for me it's like it's a it's a nice filler pin where i'm not looking to get anything great for i'm in a big payoff or anything but i'm just looking for a nice fun fun shooter i agree 100 with that i'm gonna be on it and that's the reason it's because yeah it doesn't have the depth to pull me and i like a game that scores so i there's a high score that obviously I can beat. So that doesn't eliminate really any pins. But I don't mind shooting for a high score. Rather than modes and different things. So that's not a problem for me. Like wizard modes. There's really not much. You go through the pirates try to defeat ship 1, ship 2 and all of that stuff. It's fun. It just gets old because it's kind of It's a filler pin. And the scoring it's not unbalanced I wouldn't say. but it's just but when you think of Adams family coming around about this time yeah Terminator 2 yeah it's not well turning into is not real but I actually think I don't yeah I was I'd rather have this over Terminator 2 any day of the week I do I don't know what because a theme but I'm trying to compare shooting how crazy is this and this might be a better shooter than term I would rather pay the three thousand for a black rose and I would the five to fifty five for an Adams family yes yes sir it's that kind of it is unique and it's it feels it feels good it's a cool feeling pen and you don't see him a lot of times especially you know so I I think it's cool what does that family have magnets it's got magnets I don't matter I'm saying there's just something fun about this kind of lift for work yeah I'm just kidding it gets old a little quick Adams does but it's classic I know it's a crazy comp but I'm talking money wise you know I'm saving what I'm saying is I will enjoy in my gamer some a newer kind of game kind of guy I will enjoy black rose as much as I will add family Adams family would last a lot longer than this and that's the reason like not for me no actually opposite for me I will sell on Adams to buy a stern pro whereas I know I can't get a stern pro out of a black rose so I'd keep it around a lot longer Black Rose is one of those machines when I sold Greg I told the guy and this is no bullshit I said when you get rid of it I know give me a heads up let me know you liked it yeah it's fun it's not bad so if we do a composite and overall here yes I'm going to be you're at a b minus yeah I think it's fair nice solid filler pin yeah I'm at a 3.1 or 3.04 slightly above average and you're at a 2.77 right at that b minus almost a c plus and I'm right at b almost a b what would be an average pin what this is a filler pin for me when I'm looking at rating pins a B falls into the man's pretty good that's fine yeah I agree that's cool a is like hell yeah see you sort of a C is like average C's C's now I have I tell parents this all the time at work look C is not average weights are not graded on a rubric that a C falls in the 50 percentile range or the 68 if we're doing standard deviations whatnot some of you know what I'm talking about the normal bell curve but a C is not really where it's at I think most kids probably especially in elementary school and stuff if we're really doing grades it's probably around a B minus to B C is not great C is C is It's not great. It's average.
    23:34
    See, it's like, buddy, you could have done better. Step up your shit. You can say that about a bee. No, I don't. I'm like, you know what? Some parents bring out the whipping stick if you get the bee. I do if I've ever seen a deer. How can you eat your meat if you don't eat your pudding? Or, oh, my first, how can you have your pudding if you don't eat your meat?
    23:55
    Oh, my God. That was memorable. Thank you for that one. You're good at that, but the pirate thing you need work on. I need to work on a lot. So, yeah, D is like, Jesus, like, good try, but you suck. F is, I shouldn't even talk about this thing again. This turd. F, you really suck. D, you suck pretty bad. C, you're like, duh. D, you're okay. C, hey, you're doing good, buddy. And A, yeah, we love you. That's where I'm at. So, pros and cons. Pros, the price, because I think for the price, you get a good pin.
    24:28
    No? I think Demoman's a hell of a lot better shooter and you're picking up a Demoman at $25 and you're $3,000 for this I can see your argument there I'd rather have a Black Rose than a Demoman same thing with Johnny Mnemonic I'd rather have a Black Rose than a Johnny hold up maybe not I'd rather have it than a Demoman because I don't care about Demoman Demo time I know that like the hot meme in pinball right now with the head head guys and the and the uh really yeah oh my god I love it I like yeah who was it Kevin Buffalo or somebody I don't know somebody no Kevin called me somebody said they're like they're like promise me somebody on the on the stream one night was like promise me that every time you hit the jackpot on that second multi-ball that you'll scream it out god it's fantastic the cons um cabinet fades it's hard to find a good one because the inserts get wore out and you got that bally head at that particular time which I think is a pro because I love that series mousing around in all those I love those I think it sounds better something weird to me the cabinet shape is a pro because I love that's like my favorite bally's cabinet production, the build of it is not the greatest but the look of it for me is fantastic Really? They're not built very well? I don't know. Bally had some weird years there with like Cybernaut and Spy Hunter. It was like particle. It just sucked. It sucked so bad. I stay away from those pins. All right. I could agree. So those are some of the pros. Those are some of the cons. Get out there and find one yourself. They are a lot of fun. It is fun. I was pleasantly surprised the first time I played one. I don't want to pitch a product. They are our sponsors.
    26:15
    But I'll let you pitch it. Greg, what happens when you transform that dark-ass game with the set of pinstripes? Oh, my gosh, yeah. I told Zach. I'm going to throw up some pictures right now. Because I just got my set in, and I was like, you know what? It does a good job on Demoman. I like it a lot.
    26:32
    But Black Rose, like with that twinge of blue that you had on there, it really did blow it out. You're sitting off now. This game is shit. It's ugly. So ugly. I don't even think a good LED job would have done it any good.
    26:50
    And then I did that and it's like, Black Rose Vault? Damn! And it enhanced the play field so well that it made it look like brand new. The guy that bought it, I was like, Sid, do you want that? Because I always give options because I don't mind keeping my Penn Stadium sets. I was like, do you want the Penn Stadiums or not? I'll just tack on 200 or not. And he laughed. He was like, yeah, keep them in there, please. It was so weird. I was blown away. It changes a lot of games, but that game was the best. Sorry for the plug again, but man, it's so beautiful. It's just so truthful, though. All right. Check out our Twitch. Chuck Word aboard. Chuck Word doing his deep tutorials. At 8 p.m. And then you've got Greg doing a lot of light tutorials.
    27:29
    Some days I don't even give a tutorial. I'm like, I'm here. I'm playing. I'm going to drink a little bit. We love you, Greg. Everybody loves hanging out with Greg. You're going to watch me restart 36 games if I'm not having a good night? He will. He doesn't care. No. He doesn't care. You can see me with Houdini or the other newest game on the market I try to bring you guys the newest stuff to see maybe by this time. I'll have a teenage
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    Check out our YouTube videos like us everywhere on there try to review our podcast on iTunes for us that helps us out a lot We want to try to boost that up and maybe we'll do something special with podcasting here in 2008 subscribe to us on YouTube When we first started this we're coming up on our one-year anniversary anniversary. This is going to be very close. Very, very close to our one year. Actually, it literally might be a few days before. Yeah, because we're doing a big review. And we set out, we've said this many times about, well, we were just happy when we got 10 people watching and we had 25 subscribers and we had all that. But we felt that we were going to be successful if we hit 1,200 subscribers in our first year. I didn't even have that lofty of a goal. No, you didn't. But I would say that to me, we didn't know if we would make it. It wasn't necessarily a goal. It was like that's what we wanted. That's how you know you've got a YouTube channel. Yes, that's how we would feel solidified. In pinball, anyway. In pinball. Not in the YouTube world with millions and billions of views. I can fart in a trumpet and get a couple million views. But yeah.
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    That actually isn't a bad idea. We might do that. Make a million. You wouldn't mind doing that. I'd fart in a trumpet. I don't care.
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    But this episode of sgtm, but so we're literally just right there man if you have drivers away from from hitting We've already had it by now, but it would be really close so give us 13 1400. Yeah
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    All right, also like Larry at flipping out his Facebook page We're trying to build that up for him a little bit go to 10 sitting lights Marco your machine needs it I think of that machine right now that doesn't work properly or needs rerouted or something Marco go to Marco you'll find it in five seconds on their great customer service order from Marco let him know the SDTM guy sent you over there and pin graphics he's always got the coolest mods coming out I love it every time a new machine comes out I'm like ooh I wonder what Joe's going to do with pin graphics that's the only reason I hate getting rid of my walking dead because I wasn't able to get those the mirrored barbed wire side blades for my walking dead before I got rid of it and I was just like I just want to see what they look like on there I know that's cool alright until next week guys we love you thanks again for all the support buy a t-shirt say hi to us at the shows Come hang out, drink a beer with Greg, have a Diet Cola with me. No, Pepsi. Aspartame.
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    You're scared of that too? Tumors and rats. See you guys. You hit it off with a bumper knife, straight down the metal gate. Metal gate. You had a fling with a fling shot, you're rolling out the outlet again.
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    This is a shiv I'm going to use to cut you live on stream. Let's see if we got anybody logged in yet. Get on with this mofo.
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    Just stay conscientious of this and not this. That's hard to do. It is very hard to do. We made that mistake a lot in our last one. Treat it just like our one camera. I'll kind of read some of the people's stuff. I'll be over all that. Okay. Are you good with that? It's just hard for me to know what's next. That's why I'm going to like... Well, between these things, you should be able to go to it. Your first stuff starting off is going to be rough. And once I be done with this, I can get rid of that and stay here. And then I'll just, I'll do me and the camera.
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    We're a team. This is what the fuck we do. We make fake buttons that look fucking stellar. Does my collar look okay? We're 32. Yeah, it's fantastic. You don't have a gap? It was gap. No, it's perfect. Like, dude, we're super. No, yours isn't. Well, I might be a little loose. No, you had your whole damn. Oh, yeah. I feel so stuffy though that is stuffy but it's an award show that's what you're supposed to do I don't feel this is fucking exciting now are you not excited no take a button but I've performed so it's fine I'm surprised best pinball troll was in a category is that what somebody said yeah it'd be Hilton was nominated 10 times for that that's fucking great wins it every year is Kaneda. Kaneda's winning. He hates them. You and I. Okay. You ready? No. We're going live. You ready? No. Well, it's time.
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    It's time. You ready? Man, I was born ready, baby. Good evening, pinball community. What is happening, everybody? My name is Zach. This is... Greg. What's happening, Greg? Dude, this is... It's the night. It is the night. Thank you, guys. Tonight is the night. So what we're going to do on this one, we're going to list the top five. We did top five. We'll see. I think I did. We don't know. Check it out.
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    It's fucking great. The atomic pile. People are learning. Are they? Doing a fantastic job. Are we? Yeah, you're holding it. No, you're holding it good. It's a lot to do.
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    Shuffling. Everything in circles. That's fantastic looking. I'm covered in DNA. I've had that one. I do too.