SDTM Episode 76: This Month In Pinball/2018 Chicago Expo Edition

Straight Down the Middle·video·37m 22s·analyzed·Oct 23, 2018

Analysis

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TL;DR

SDTM covers 2018 Pinball Expo reveals: Oktoberfest, Monster Bash remake, and mystery Great Lakes Pinball announcement.

Summary

Zach Minney and Greg Bone discuss the 2018 Chicago Pinball Expo, covering new game reveals including American Pinball's Oktoberfest (with detailed hands-on impressions), Chicago Gaming Company's Monster Bash remake, and an exclusive announcement of a new manufacturer 'Great Lakes Pinball' with their debut title 'Papa Duke Mysterious.' The hosts emphasize the improved expo atmosphere, expanded homebrew showcase, and community engagement throughout the weekend.

Key Claims

Great Lakes Pinball is a new pinball manufacturer with a debut game titled 'Papa Duke Mysterious'
high confidence · Hosts received exclusive information directly from Great Lakes Pinball and were required to sign documents; announcement made at Expo 2018
American Pinball's Oktoberfest features a massive lift ramp, physical ball lock, multiple multiball modes, and strong shot quality comparable to Houdini Master of Mystery
high confidence · Hosts played the game at reveal and provided detailed hands-on impressions; visited American Pinball factory for promo filming
Monster Bash remake by Chicago Gaming Company is priced at $6,000 for standard edition plus shipping
high confidence · Hosts confirmed pricing during Expo gameplay and discussion
The rumor that Nightmare Before Christmas pinball would be made by American Pinball is false
high confidence · Hosts stated 'that is a false statement. Again, more false information. My sources are telling me that that actually is still up for debate.'
Monster Bash remake features updated animations, new lighting effects (more dramatic than Medieval Madness and Attack from Mars remakes), and layered 3D topper characters
high confidence · Hosts described playing the remake and observing visual and mechanical details in person

Notable Quotes

“It went like three lines. Yes, yes. So it's gonna be huge.”
Greg Bone@ 9:07 — Commenting on American Pinball's expansion/facility growth at Palatine location
“There's that API live a day. They allowed that down. That's how you. Revenge. Exactly. That's what we had this weekend. Pinball's deep dive, right?”
Zach Minney@ 8:07 — Praising coordinated multi-source media coverage of Oktoberfest reveal (video, livestream, written content)
“Everything was great. And I'm trying to hit record on the camera, and nothing's happening, yeah. And then all of a sudden, I see no memory. The graphics card editing the night before the damn Oktoberfest, he left it in his computer.”
Greg Bone@ 22:27 — Recounting technical difficulties during seminar setup at Expo
“And I'm curious if anybody else I played it. Of what—what they thought about that. Let's talk.”
Greg Bone@ 21:11 — Expressing concern about dial responsiveness on a game mechanic (likely a newer title)
“You're gonna have to find out. We're on the phone for like an hour, find out. Edward, they said, do you have to start signing some documents?”
Zach Minney@ 27:35 — Describing Great Lakes Pinball's secretive reveal of debut game title

Entities

Straight Down the MiddlemediaChicago Pinball ExpoeventAmerican Pinballcompany Oktoberfestgame Chicago Gaming Companycompany Monster BashgameGreat Lakes Pinballcompany

Signals

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community_signal: Straight Down the Middle's exclusive media coordination with manufacturers for multi-source coverage strategy (video, livestream, written content) on game reveals
high · Hosts described coordinating with American Pinball for early factory access, filming promo video, and simultaneous release during livestream reveal to provide 'gameplay and an in-depth look at everything from three different sources'
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sentiment_shift: Thunderbirds (likely new pin) received poor reception from multiple playtesters; described as having unidentified quality issue preventing market viability
medium · Hosts stated: 'I played one ball, and I walked away... I asked for multiple opinions... it's not getting great reception... I can't pinpoint what it is... it's just not gonna work'
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design_philosophy: Oktoberfest art package less strong than comparable titles; described as 'more whimsical, more theme-oriented' rather than bold/classic; female character artwork appears washed out in photos but improves in person
medium · Host noted: 'The first impressions, the heart is not as strong as... Casey Dean... It's more whimsical... She looks better in person... she was a little red and washed out in those pics'
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event_signal: Chicago Pinball Expo 2018 showing notable improvements in atmosphere, vendor quantity, seminar organization, and overall community engagement compared to previous year
high · Hosts explicitly stated: 'There's a different atmosphere, oh yeah... everybody's a lot more peppy... feels fuller and there's more people... feels like there's more stuff here'
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Topics

2018 Chicago Pinball Expo atmosphere and layout improvementsprimaryAmerican Pinball's Oktoberfest reveal and hands-on gameplay impressionsprimaryChicago Gaming Company's Monster Bash remake quality, pricing, and design executionprimaryGreat Lakes Pinball announcement and 'Papa Duke Mysterious' debut title mysteryprimaryFalse rumor about Nightmare Before Christmas pinball at American PinballsecondaryPin Stadium LED lighting system and operator ROI benefitssecondaryStraight Down the Middle's exclusive media access and multi-source coverage strategysecondaryHomebrew pinball showcase and Galloping Ghosts arcade partnership at Expomentioned

Sentiment

positive(0.82)— Hosts are enthusiastic about Expo improvements, impressed by Oktoberfest's gameplay quality and Monster Bash's remake execution. Positive energy about meeting community members and exclusive access. Minor criticisms of Oktoberfest art package cohesion and Thunderbirds/Mafia game quality, but overall celebratory tone about the event and new announcements.

Transcript

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late you stay out with night Oh Greg so like 2 or 3 a.m. and that's not that's not huge at all 7 hours past my bedtime Wow she turned it to a pumpkin my face looks like a rotted pumpkin not after last night so let me get cover-up and can see all right so we're gonna talk about Chicago pinball Expo 2018 it's been a blast though it has been a blast last year was fun man you know one night last year and it was fun but it has definitely improved this year there's a I think there's a different atmosphere oh yeah you know everybody it's a lot more peppy it's just a lot more enthusiasm I feel on the floor this year don't you absolutely the seminar the vending area or not the vending Airways is called benders Hall vendor some vendors halls set up a little bit different which I like yeah I feels it feels like there's more stuff in here there yeah I agree that's what I was saying to us I was like I don't know if they just got more vendors for what it is but it does it feels fuller and there's more people okay and then there were say 24-hour game room yeah you've been hanging out there early morning I don't really dance fun I like it whatever I bet you I put high game up on roller games roller game only Zach would be proud of a high score on roller that's right baby and then they had a separate room John Youssi that room roll the homebrew stuff was it work with the galloping ghosts them yeah and that's what that was another thing it was a giant plus galloping ghosts doc brought a ton of arcade I don't know how many's in there but it's literally one whole room full of stand-ups yeah and stuff in like Zach said there's some homebrew stuff in there too yeah nine-member from Christmas or Christmas I love that has gotten rave reviews you know it's not one of those home brews it looks cool I think people are loving like the game play and everything it doesn't shoot I wish was great I've been playing that now there are some people sources some podcasts were saying that he has committed to making that game with American pinball that was the rumor but I'm here to tell you that is a false statement again more false information my sources are telling me that that actually is still up for debate mark and city as the guy who created Nightmare Before Christmas pinball machine yeah and I'm pretty sure he's talking to people tray that might get made but he is not confirmed with anybody yet but you know my only concern would be is I mean it's a Disney license yeah they've got another Disney license so hopefully they can pull that license damn and I don't know how much Tim Burton has to do with it and what does I mean I'm not sure there's never been a Tim Burton fame is kind of cool though it is very take some tweaking right here's get assassinated at the expo John Wilkes Booth all right so what what else is so there were seminars there was 24-hour game room there was a thinning area there is tournament area yeah we met Jeff Keolis yeah we saw a lot of friends here man how many SDTM shirts have you seen what a few it has been non-stop talking we thank you to all your fans that we're here and then saw us and everything and talked to us all weekend long like I don't think there was any downtime no up you know but it was fun meeting everybody now it is Saturday it is Saturday we still have a whole full day yeah tonight we've got send our Stern aramis coming up tonight yeah I'm gonna get some more time on some games maybe give some overviews there yeah but let's talk about the big reveal of Expo 2018 tell the people who revealed a game here American pin balls October fair yeah I didn't see no bean there's real there was no oh we're we're in a pinball show it's all weiners oh it's a lot of ways all we have V there's everywhere yeah so there is on Thursday Thursday they revealed this thing has 8:30 a night yes but yours truly yes you got to go to American pinball's Factory at about in the afternoon yes it was crunch time was crunch they were prepping these games not one not two but three or three of them so they better didn't just show one very nice but we went there early yes we invited to film a promo by now you guys have probably seen that promo video with the overview of the game the little details inside that you can't capture overhead on a game play yep and we wanted to give we want to try it did something different like the thing to have we brought you with Josh we wanted up a quick synopsis of what was going on and brief description along with those close-ups of those toys and mechs that you guys a 180 ramp yeah so we went there they were kind enough Joey so we go in there Joe Paul sir is we're just working on him he's trying to make him perfect you know how Joe is right Klingon scrubbing Windex like cleaning that glass not where that's it it's cleaning that glass and those playbills that he did that me and Josh Kubler does what Josh does talking with everybody yeah right so he sat down and talked with us and told us a little bit about the inspiration behind the theme behind the pinball machine it sounds like you know Joe was going to make this forever yeah right and sadly enough at that time we didn't really get the flip on it no it was just a or in arrest showcasing the banks we needed to get out of the way so they could get done what they needed to get done down this stuff and then so we come to the reveal and no way to tell so we we thought well we race back we start the editing process right I've cut this artwork down that's right so we should we start the editing process then we go to the reveal yeah and we were we were given the opportunity to throw this up right when the stream was going on Jack danger was streaming it alive for everybody so we were going to throw up this promotional video at the same time so that you guys at gameplay and you had an in-depth look at everything on Oktoberfest which I'm so glad there's that API live a day they allowed that down that's how you revenge exactly that's what we had this weekend pin balls deep dive right this with all the pictures rules and stuff all all released in and if you got it from all angles three different sources and sources in three different types you have media every piece of information you want for that reveal sax was done exactly I thought that was awesome that's pretty cool I did too so if you went to the reveal I was still doing uploading editing kind of stuff yeah how did the reveal go it went well you know it was they just briefly gave what name's Ron and Ron yeah eight Ron's they had talked about their company how they briefly how they sort of got into pinball that's that quick transition they didn't want to bore us with that too much so the mayor of Palantine come here and communist al who was an expert on your love team yeah yeah I was always kind of surprised by that but he was super stoked about it because API is moving to that that Factory at some point it went like three lines yes yes so it's gonna be huge and so they quickly got to that reveal which was nice and people were born with like they loved seeing and there was a hell of a line to play it I would have liked to have seen if I'm gonna bust her chops a little bit it wasn't a party no I wanted some beer I wanted lederhosen I wanted I wanted the chicks right the beer girl yeah I wanted music I her we didn't get any of that it was a standard reveal but it was a reveal and I was glad that somebody revealed it Expo okay that's right it's still again I will I will stress that so much it's so important it's something we would've knocked it out Greg oh we would have helped we would have knocked it out we didn't build it all right so we've played Oktoberfest now we finally put some games on it what are you what are your thoughts I mean just the first impression you know I like it it is a typical Balcer fashion it is a completely different game then they started over from anything's ever done yeah I agree and it shoots smooth it's got some speed to it and it's got some of the most amazing ramps and wire forms I've ever seen it really does and everything so hi hey I'm excited to dive into that code I'm excited to see what Josh does with it what fair does with it one more time yeah I want more time kind of addicted look it is addictive it very much is I felt like they were longer Baltar they are longer ball time longer Bowl but you know Houdini gonna give me long long ball tops yeah yeah so my impression was there's a blast to shoot way it was it's smooth yeah this thing is really really smooth it leaves it's one of those pins that you you just have a smile on your face we're living sort of let you know like pirates did whether it's like who's kind of like a Miss effin loaded and this little sing is low it is damaged I don't know the pricing on this yet but yeah this this is loaded from that I'm guessing it's gonna be around Houdini yeah and if that's the case loaded down and it has that st. build quality that you found a new beanie assay apply with it's solid they put us up in it real I'm not stress how good this thing sounds oh yeah it has like a rockin like a rock one of the tooths like a rock holy agra motif on it and i'm hearing that that they're hoping to further elaborate on that and build a little bit more of that into it which is fantastic display so usually yeah yeah I loved how loaded it was it's got a lifter in for God's sakes I get the lip ramp that doesn't reject his special it is you would think it was solid it's a lift ramp by YouTube the largest freaking ramp and pinball yes it goes up almost to the glass and then it's got a physical ball lock up top and then once you get it it turns into literally a relic ofyou know where it goes around it turns around it comes around all three of the bulb and do you remember how we talked like what I was really happy there how we talked about with Houdini now you've got the key lane like like shots you got the mill shots they don't feel like shots it's the milking like oh yeah it feels like what it supposed to be that's the way that rollercoaster is you feel like they're going up you Lydia when John Youssi that ball go up it literally feels like it's a roller coaster it's so sweet and the way that it's designed in with the barrel the physics physicalities there's a real barrel in there it's not a 2d printed plastic it's a real barrel that blocks balls too what do we always we always stress it's got somewhat like the stage in Houdini where it opens up under Auto yes and it goes into a scoop you know it's got out of the bartender to sit at his bar and he follows the ball when he goes up the ramp to notice a up the eternal arrow head around and watches the ball it's got the Tales from the Crypt 180 yeahum that's its kind of side ramp is actually really hard to hit and it's nice it is I like when there's difficult shots and there's easy shots yes it's got a good light show - yeah wonderful life show yep oh it's a fun game man I was I was very very pleasantly surprised sorts - so look look for more content you know what I was surprised about exactly talking out you always do so I gave a hard time publicly about the Gretchen Irwin who literally told Scott when we were setting up because we're here at the fantastic Penn State that was like well we'll be out of your way Scott we you know we won't be very long filming this and Scott was like the way you talk and literally what's he doing I love Tom so the art package we get come on we got to talk about the art package of Oktoberfest right yeah yeah we got to now I was I was vocal about the looks of one company were named Ingrid Ingrid I think there's big Ingrid I thought looked like it's kind of scary she kinda look Jo Chris yeah kind of look she's on the side of the cabinet and I'm okay with it I do too ain't she's on the heart plane she looks better in person she was a she was a little red and washed out in those pics in her soul and it's it's so cohesive and it blows in like she odd least and out like she did in those five years her another angle on one of the animation yeah she's always gonna be a rosy cheeked chick Yeah right but it's not it's not the way that is now 2/10 yeah she looks better person that's all I'm saying variable but I will give a little bit of a hard time I could like the first impressions the heart is not as strong as your Dean I agree it's not it's just not it's more whimsical more notable whimsical it's more theme oriented yes that's it's a fair yeah it wears Hardy he was just very classy this is classy though I'm not coming out oddity I'm not crazy sold about the arms no no there's nothing like this is a game of plunge yeah this is not Houdini where you just look at in you're like oh I got a story yeah just but it's still very pretty pin but that's the only that's the only complaint that I'm really her roadshow that's what it feels like to me a narrow body Roadshow it is loaded but a lot prettier though it's prettier than a road show but it's not agree with weights not the prettiest art package on the plot I'm sorry it's just with you but what do people we talk about art what do people cry about you guys don't play the art why do you care so let's see if you back it up by not playing the art yeah what else to me oh you know what else is Julie yes monster bash was remade by Chicago gaming company we have the classic yes and you know what dish high limited I talked to Zach and I'm excited about it like I thought about medieval madness was fantastically I thought this can be fantastic I knew it yeah it's a remake the topper you saw the pics of the topper it didn't look like anything special I was like nothing's moving I was like what's it really what's it really gonna bring but seeing it that topper is big the characters are big and they are 3d like lights everywhere yeah they're layered bull sculpted figures and it is actually freakin stellar in person then that displaces the display is phenomenal I don't know what to say about ghosts I got plenty to say and let me tell you what about the lockdown board oh the little dough man which is beautiful - even that powder coat color the trim levels the mirror blades that the lighting effects Oh the lighting are superb that's my favorite part about this but let me tell you this is what gets me here you guys know me by now do you know what really grabbed me yesterday that I didn't know $6,000 for a standard Zak still busted my balls about a standard - but I don't care because this is a monster bash full a tool at the bar full of toy us a bullet boy classic goes to the bar full of killers to the RFA for $400 more than a snare pro hi I the what I like this but shipping you have to pay shipping you got to pay shipping Greg yeah it's close term is close I'm we don't a fishtail little we just got more Stern Pro oh yeah that's a the classic Monster Mash like you still got everything if it's monster bash for six thousand dollars plus shipping they're gonna buy monster bash you better buy Ellie because the things are gonna be sold out maybe by the time you want I will agree with that because it is this radius yachine yeah probably in this entire room you know what it's beautiful but when you set it next to a standard or an old one you really tell really tell like it blows it out the one they don't look like the same the updated animations are phenom oh the creature swimming across they are well work that's what I don't think a classy I just don't think I could buy a clog a playboy I don't think I can find classic I can't go up to 1300 I'd love to think though look at this now you gotta go to at least the SC so the biggest for me when I was playing it's a plant people are like there's a play like the original doesn't play like a remake to me it plays like remake I think it plays like the reason I thought it played it plays like medieval madness an attack from r3 makes to me it does it does but I don't know bad you know I don't think it's all it plays like it's new yeah I place tighter but it's snappier but it's big yes but an extra hit that bill feels like the original yeah very much so well because it is [Music] oh we got some bubble-hockey next to us for lawn games no but the biggest thing for me when I was playing monster bad it's the lighting I wouldn't expect them it no I wasn't expecting the lighting being this dramatic I mean it's got different lighting effects the medieval madness remade an attack from our dreaming they simply didn't have they stayed constant yeah like they paid tribute to the old one yes this very much is a new Monster Mash it lightens everything up and it goes with the speaker grills it goes with the display they does with the the topper and when one is so cohesive and I thought that it was just gonna be like okay if you were in creature you'd have a lot of greens but it's lightening it it's more dramatic that uh it's beautiful you got a blue moon behind the werewolf we're gonna have to figure out what kind of lighting because that the with the way they use that lighting it's superb Wow it is it is very very high Nelly they're probably gone okay you can call Larry a flipping out pinball see if he's got any more other distributors but they're likely going that's how good this thing up in the beach and so Thursday was one hour no you know what else we played what we do I was excited about it the palm oak I was excited but I was excited I've heard bad things and I thought it was neat you know and I asked the price point and it was like three grand I don't know no don't don't quote me on it there's somewhere around three great but I sat down to play it I love it topic number three you're going non bimbo okay well fit up and I want to bring this because a lot of people played it mitla it's Barry I'm not a central figure but it stands out and it looks cool it looks cool but it's something weird about that dial like it's just not responsive enough like you turn it to a finger line going this way but when you you try to reverse you that will spend a hundred times before it goes back and that's my only complaint about it is they really feel they're not really feeling it man and I'm curious if anybody else I played it of what what they thought about that let's talk till we went into Thursday when we do Thursday night okay yeah we meet you went to sleep I saw it 2:00 a.m. with hoot I see - am Tim Cromwell I'm bill from special and let great guys we hung out with them tonight after - yeah great dude great dude so then Friday comes along and we've got our seminar we did our own hell with Jeff from this weekend bimbo we did a little duo there yeah hell of a turnout like we really showed up terrify the entire time we'd have like 10 or 15 people there but it was like you or I terrified because you have no preparation you didn't know what we were even doing now you just went up air wing - yes what what I always do you did a great job well thank you so you did - it's very preppy great prep work well I didn't prep totally you tell the people what happened so you know I got there early and I've got all the equipment out and I'm setting up camera and all of our mics and yeah and everything else yeah everything was great and I'm trying to hit record on the camera and nothing's happening yeah and then all of a sudden I see no memory card editing the night before the damn Oktoberfest he left it in his computer and literally the seminars roll roll through so you don't have time good go prep anymore to go really go get it and then he is introducing us Mel as I oh yeah so we didn't get to bring you guys a good good version I do have an iPhone version so we can pool maybe work that out it's kind of far away and everything a novel is great Mariano a pimple is fantastic he was doing so much work there man reporting all the seminars very is very helpful those guys work hard in there and then and then let me say this we excited Rob Burton so much he was so know that we were it we were wrapping up and he comes up in our ear and he's like I got some this or that for you yeah and start he wanted to hear some disavowed he extended our saying he extended our seminar so we could throw in a lot of a lot of viewer participation we didn't were having fun playing this or that live at Expo it was that that thing where that it took you know we asked for show of hands there but it was good with that but then we wanted somebody just eat and give there you know you reluctantly had that one person that's a and then but then came Oh like two or three this or that's a everybody's beautiful yeah give their opinion out real really went well after our seminar then we helped Scott up in Stadium he did a really cool seminar where he showed how to install it Penn Stadium wise how we helped him we should install it to him and he talked to United basically if these two idiots can install it anybody can and he talked about how that you know that he's got a lot of concessions on locations yeah in about you know these some of these routers and people that have on location of come to him and said listen you know we've been cut across the revenues everything because the better lighting is looks like a better it brings people in when they see those lights lay oh that's very exactly so that's what is similar what you want to showcase products oh yeah yeah we put them on a scared stiff and everything just to show how quick and easy at all Marko specialties same-day shipping accessible website exceptional customer service and with over 50,000 different pinball parts in stock Marko specialties is a must for every pinball enthusiast and operator reach your pinball machine right by visiting Marco speck calm now Chrome it brass at black nickel at King dick Roman powder coated the possibilities are endless at pinball plating calm your pinball machine deserves the best at comet pinball you'll find the best variety of LED products with the best quality LEDs and importantly at the best price your collection is begging for an upgrade order yours now at comet Inbal dot-com very cool so what else do we do here next well we hung out with some real cool people we hung out a little bit with probably maybe my favorite coat I mean one of the best coders in the world white Sullivan yeah tell him about how much we love his Star Wars you know what Dwight's kind of like me you know what he's got like me as what he loves that neuroticism back and told me I said I will win you over Dwight no I'm the fan for life Sullivan as teams at all the way through he's hardcore games there that like made my whole weekend some of it we got a gust over Star Wars Ghost Buster oh my god yeah that was really cool Game of Thrones why focus you said dust don't even try oh we hung out Franchi yeah francha here at a booth the most beautiful artwork ever it was like how jealous I wanted that canvas so bad John Youssi that Guardian stand behind my canvases he had his posters he had premium prints they add the players were amazing pins mug stickers like those little pinball machines back daily the do glitter like cereal box can be the old retro set of Count Chocula and everything it was free if you like retro art Jr came room with a Hyneman so it's really fantastic oh you know what so we'll talk about Expo near in a minute but we have to pause the program we were recently contacted and discussing some marketing and reveals and stuff with a new pinball manufacture yeah can you believe it no so just because the Expos are rolling straight down the middle off see it doesn't keep working right oh we work this whole Expo Great Lakes pinball Great Lakes pinball you're gonna hear about that name coming up within the next year I think basics pinball has told us the title of their first debut pinball machines the title of their debut machine will be a pretty mysterious they gave us nothing else after it expose expose that could be all kinds of things when we were told this yeah I immediately said well okay what is it and they're like you're gonna have to find out we're on the phone for like an hour find out Edward they said do you have to start signing some in da zag yeah but know it so we were literally like googling like what is the exact that we know what expose means but like we're Googler like exact definition like we were trying to narrow yeah trying to get it it's a like a reveal or an uncovering yeah and we're gonna be mysterious what could it it could be an old style it could be new and like it could be like 50 who knows yeah but maybe you can tell a little bit from this I get the logo but they gave us the logo here your family yeah so what could that be it almost looks like like the pins on on a detective coward like LinkedIn this dreams we're gonna bring you more straight legs pinball and expose and the future so stay tuned to that oh I bought a pinball machine at Expo imagine man I bought one guess what I bought an old game what alphanumeric what system 11 rare a term that defines me and that's radical about radical we think about radical huh you're not you're not dawn I'm just here delivery you ever seen radical little much well then you called yourself game cost me a little much I wanted to buy it for the show who reviews radical right we do so we got radical coming special shout out Troy North Troy a corduroy at top score game room so the reason I'm gonna give him a shout out he is a retail locating I love the little kids have seen us before but it tears me at it it's tears that's so top score gamers the reason I'm giving them a fallout or shout out is because their retail and they've been doing this forever they they redo machines and stuff yeah for the price of a radical or expensive yes this wasn't that bad for retail yeah it really wasn't so we'll see when I get the man I bought a radical my next time to play one of the games should play you play Thunderbirds didn't you I'm five flat I'm gonna be honest I played one ball I and I walked away that's all that's so mean I I didn't like it and No I asked for multiple opinions just to see if it wasn't me and I hate to say it but it's not getting great reception no it's just and I can't pinpoint what it is I can it's just not gonna work yeah I'm gonna work nope if you want if you want Americans to buy something you got to bring some quality into it that won't work but even just quality it's just something about the way and you know what I win a Kuenn I first saw it was a gruesome Thunderbirds I want to play it I walk the good of Mike you know what this everybody it looks like piece of I was like this doesn't look bad I was like nice and then what happened then I played it and I played it with my wife and my brother they both left with the same impression it was mine I don't even want to finish no that's good for four 90s Dave yeah it's just something not speaking of the other new pens mafia but tiempo you know what I know that is a pin I haven't played that one yet it's actually not as bad as what you think it's gonna be it looks pretty yeah it's not bad it's not cool but that will be saying that you're pointing that the people that give that price point is very rough the inspector I didn't make what ten yeah it's not that big it's not it's not but the thing that would have hurt me we refresh on you yeah yeah there's just a lot what you get but it's not a bad end it's now really cool Larry and flipping out pinball he brought to the Xbox seems like everybody's gonna have all the other stuff that he sells right Stern yeah George Balch target right so he want to do something to do he brought in Lexi Lightspeed that cool is that my p3 multi morphing with his first time I got to play and he also brought in I gotta get I always get the name wrong here dominant League all-stars yes by Bally dynamo and the updated the new version pitching back in now I gotta say the pitching back I've played with Smitty gem players it's kind of competitive it's really you do a home run derby Home Run Derby like 15 pitches and you try to see how many home runs you can ah the call-outs are cool kids are like there's a month's to bed ah it's a lot of fun it's beautiful it is me yes quick led effects throughout we need a home run play led to choo choo choo choo choo time and hit over know it did it's surprising it in and I wasn't gonna like so it's like I'm gonna have to play this bitchin man I was worried yeah I play pitching man you know I love the base runners to do everybody on top is cool Lexie Lightspeed especially I started to talk about this free multi morphic now it plays a lot better and it's a lot snappier than what I thought was if you were somebody else that came up to me and they were like oh my god that love that system I was like oh my god it's not bad III was that thing as competent she does have a low it does have been fighting if they start working tweaking those animes I'm looking forward to cosmic carburetor yeah also multi more thing just released an announcement that you can now upgrade what school on the p3 it's like I'm a magnetic port on the side you're going to be able to upgrade Lexi Lightspeed the ARP detail package so it's a different work package it's like more like a really a newer style art car to me change oh it looks superb I'll see if I can even fit it yeah I want to see and also cosmic kart racing new animated side art and stuff like that beautiful really I was impressed this again there's just there's a lot more going on in the back of it but what I thought there would be in that absolutely all right what else we done there's a Houdini tournament today these guys are giving away a brand new moon teeny pinball machines an entire wall full of Houdini's turn crazy which is fantastic free play area you long out with Stern Stern arama tonight looks like Jack danger ago that maybe I'll go that I won't be here I got to leave but thinks they're gonna reveal anything sterile rama's it's a good time in there yes fun there's a little little party like a pity party anything else we want to tell these five people that the Chicano expose oh we saw Joe don't know King grasses oh oh people I saw oh he's going to go in a big hug so - you're fantastic stuff some of our other sponsors we're not here Marco one year so yeah this year they said CERN being in their backyard yes they got it they wants a different show yeah comment calm it wasn't nope I'm here here did John Youssi I didn't get to run into him but a pimple plating no Chris royalty wasn't able to make it this time there are some games with this work on it yeah but you didn't did you guys get your stuff plated yet you got to do that alright guys we're gonna say adios from the Chicago pinball Expo 2018 break bone tell these wonderful people you love them in goodbye love you goodbye still struggling here my voice is gone I don't know [Music] you hit it off with pumping down the 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