118:32[Music] enjoyability so this encompasses how much do you want in your game room are there special magic things that happen that make you want to come back for more that's what this is encompassing I'm in a and I tell you what this may be easily be an A+ enjoy ability for me I got a lot of reasons why I'm gonna - so good and I thoroughly enjoy it in the thing that I like the most about it is like we've sort of discussed this before yeah that it's a pin that when I step up to it I'm like hey okay I'll play it then I like it mmm we're into me I feel that those are keeper pins for me because you're hens that I go up to and I'm really blown away with at first and I really like with the exception of dialed in dialed in that kept your it kept me away when I first touched it and then it it kept me there but that's a rare exception with dialed in but most pins that go to and they are fun at the first and I like them get old very quickly okay and you know what for me Aerosmith kind of got a little stale yeah good and then Guardians if they don't fix that code and give me a little more I can see that kind I love it still but kind of getting a little stale for me I would take it home today I told Zack I said if you ever go to get rid of this before you sell it let me take it home for two weeks just the play a lot of people a lot of people because I'm pins that have been a little bit vocal about my enjoyment it's game didn't want to give too much away because I have this review but people a couple people are like man it's just a honeymoon phase like chill out and I'm aware of that when I go to review these things we don't want to [ __ ] these people I think we're raving bacon ham and it could have that happen but you don't know what's gonna wear off but it's this doesn't this feels like more to me it does feel like it really does it feels like more to me just because there's so much to do well that's the thing is like I'm just now getting the shots down a little so now I'm opening up it to be able to explore the code once you get deeper in that you see stuff that's what I'm saying stuff so that's why I feel that it's not just the honeymoon phase it's because of the depth of that code what Josh put into it I feel that it won't get old mmm because of that all right you ready for mine yeah so were you at enjoyable you're a - lemonade people often say that I just rant and I say that I love something but I can sometimes not back it up yeah I'm gonna back it up Greg with why I enjoy reading out of the box it has flipper Stoppers what other machine does that maybe some Jersey Jack should get some ruby red slippers and stuff but they put that in there you get purple silicon for the flippers themselves not just blank purpose silicone and on the post colored posts thank you Thank You American pinball you can LCD screen not one but two and they both are implemented well they're not just thrown up on a machine one is part of a theater on your bank laughs and one is part of a theater on your play field yes you get custom-made spotlights Akali creations instead of ugly spotlights you get some that look like teamster lights from the theater that's not cheap produce I'd say needed it's just for aesthetic yes you get that you get ornate lock pop bumpers that you're not going to get that ornate of pop bumpers on anything besides I would say your suggestion JJ's gonna give you that you get a catapult that throws the ball 22 inches into the air that never gets old and it never misses you get another catapult you get magic targets that have magnets that swirl the ball around in unexpected ways you get a subway on a contemporary machine thank you manufacturers for not forgetting about subways I love Subway's you get Easter eggs everywhere Greg I'm still uncovering the damn thing yes and it's not just Easter eggs they are tributes to pinball players yes there is a reason there is a reason when I go to enter my name at the very end I can't put ZL and my initials because the Z is missing I said to myself why is the Zima see I talked to the guys have built this there's a reason and when you find out why yeah you're gonna giggle and I appreciate that like you said there's a ton of that type stuff in there yes there's targets that there's a leaf target or leaf switch and it's a certain width Joe Balcer said why are we using this big old target when all we need is just the width of that switch so we get more room for p.m. I love it that's a first it's an aim your target pimple um there's a wooden planchette yeah crafted wouldn't planchette as a Joey in there that lights up there is a ball save you guys ball save modes instead of just draining if you can get into the mystery shop and I'm gonna keep going because this is the reason that I bought Houdini in the ball save or the in the mystery the mystery magic shop thank you you can get awarded the ball saved modes so you have to get them time just right if you're going out the out Lane you gotta have it lit but if you do there's two modes one of them you have 30 or 40 flips to all seance targets to keep your ball alive a second chance if you will and then the other one escape from I think you get 30 seconds and in that 30 seconds you have to hit all the escape targets yeah and then you can keep your like simple coding and care to the pinball player like that keeps it going for me you've got inverted flippers yeah have you ever seen that there's a mo dog and they're in mode so it's not like it's not like that I'd hate to see what the wizard mode to be yeah they're just typical modes where the flippers they stay up and you got to put in this yeah they swap so you're crossed and they step so you have to hold them down to come down and isn't there a ball save on these for the flippers what do you mean didn't Josh say that so that you wouldn't screwed over when I switched back no there's no switching that's Ghost Busters that's what's nice he said he didn't want to do that yeah you don't know what I'm talking about when it goes from amber back to normal yipper yeah so that way you're not screwed you know what something I use that sometimes and every time it happens I really appreciate that that's a good call right yeah because I'll lose that last ball because I'm do you know all this stuff and it's like all right we'll give you your ball back to start your regular gameplay yeah yeah love that you've got the unique head on it that grows on you that really grows on you you've got special Mo's so for me these special modes man I went into it's like a it's like a hurry-up mode it's one of the jail mode or no I might even in jail mode it's a very unassuming mode but after you hit the third shot of that mode Houdini you're trying to get him to escape from the asylum and the GI goes black it goes like a wizard mode but this is a mode Greg the the Gi goes black and all of a sudden you see Houdini on the screen trying to escape this asylum with spotlights on it there's three shots on the playfield one of them is the correct one and Kugler said if you look right if you look just right up at that he'll show your coup Dean you'll show you where what shot to make but then the GI spotlights the play field and then goes around inverted flippers mode you've got all of these cool modes and then last but not least the fun that they're having in this pin the history the history the historical information they're bringing is a breath of fresh air and pinball it really is because we get something unique and different then a superhero how are you because I'm a history nerd but they they're having fun in a sense because they poke fun at the other manufacturers and you guys will see the video right now but they they pull up in the mystery he'll go down he'll grab your mystery award but sometimes he's gonna grab something like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man head that's melting and he says who you're gonna call not that guy things that can hold oh that is one ugly alien let's see what else we have let's try that again save the basic nobody thinks this that can hold nuclear annihilation good pinball that for our future let's try that again extra moon is lit you can tell that they they put their heart and soul into the pan I think they had a good time doing it like it just wasn't like I'm getting my paycheck like they wanted to make there may not have another paycheck this is a startup but I think it's seven grand oh the way the market is this is an eight to nine thousand dollar pen the way the market is it stacks up yeah yeah but and so I think that that's what's gonna help sell these machines is everything that you just listed for $7,000 $7,000 yeah I I think that you you can't go wrong it's a great value it's crazy saying that anything at $7,000 is a great value but if they keep cranking these things out of seventh out in the whole world there's no reason that the tax alright yeah yeah it's phenomenal phenomenal get those bugs fixed and stuff like it alright so let's talk about the overall rating we compiled this all I'm gonna a minus of the 3.79 I'm great with this I'm gonna be plus your average game you had a range pretty high man yeah I mean but it's good it really is pros and cons pros we listed them mm-hmm value the price actually we usually talk price as a con but for this I think it's a kind of railroad pros are everything you listed yeah just about cons what don't you like about this for me there's bugs there's bugs bugs let that it's a it's just shipping mmm so that doesn't bother me too much but it's still con con it's it's a it's a new pin new manufacture may affect we're not [ __ ] no we told those guys like one of the things that you're gonna have to get over is mmm this is new like can we trust American pinball yeah I don't only time will tell only time and let's be honest let's not [ __ ] these guys came out of the gate in not a great way no no and we won't even talk about that you guys gonna look it up yourself adjust associating themselves I think they were just they didn't know they didn't know better they got Joe bolster in there and fix things up a bit but yeah soul honest fix except a lot not a big lock so picks things up a lot very fit they scratch they had to scrap this entire machine yeah the entire machine and do something else and in a short period of time but as far as they went in that timeframe is amazing there's plenty of sleepless nights I guarantee you I still have some worrisome I do I have reservations to but it's nowhere near like highway and that's interesting it's a bold statement coming from you I like alien a whole lot but I'm way more terrified of highway and not just because they're overseas or anything but I think that all of that was so negative and all the line that I know yeah that I think I think that a lot of that stuff is what kept a lien out of some of the twiggy's hmm categories I think that that's what's gonna Altima sales where is this they heard people yeah how much did you have to pay for this and wait how long did you have to wait for your $7000 that you were scared you're gonna lose you didn't you didn't know you didn't know so they've never made people they'd even make people pay for the $200 deposit that was a distributed yeah yeah so this one I'm seeing so I feel better about this an American then what I do highway this game is shipping and reddit a year yeah yeah and a sales and people people seem to share that sentiment for the most part because sales seem like they're they're taking off for deals well if you guys want a Houdini get in there yeah and and ain't tell them SDTM said you yeah Larry Larry food not that we get paid for but it does it does help prove that you know that you that people actually take our opinions seriously yeah they take mine not yours but it's all good I only point you in the directions of good pizza it's fine I just want you to dredge up a pinball machine yeah yeah I mean only time will tell we can't say back scary and we're gonna we protect we're doing this for you guys yeah so we're gonna try to protect you that would be my only hesitancy but what we can say from being up there is that it everything's brand-new because I see you on the assembly line I'm like oh my god doesn't look like there's blood on it everything is fresh and branch yeah it's not everything's organized so very well yeah it's small yeah but doesn't need to be nice how they were tweaking things to to accommodate and if it cuz you look like everything I was looking for but but they're new they're still new you're gonna look and and I don't know as long as they don't do anything stupid I don't think there's anything as long as this pin functions well then I thought I'd have to tweak it out of the box yeah that's what's in I think that this is gonna sell and I think they'll go on to game number two easily they're excited about that one too yes yeah they're already they're already talking about it getting ready to work it up and every wouldn't let us have it though with them it wouldn't be so we won't tell I promise we don't have thousands of people to watch these videos so I think as long as they don't do something stupid then I think this game is going to be a hit and I think that it will allow them to go into game number two successfully this game to me he's already a hit I think so I think so but if we buy a new machine right now we buy we buy an alien you find uh parts of the Caribbean I wanted pirates Lee I probably well but this is my what you want $9,500 I want 95 that's what hurts me hearts yeah you want a Guardians well do you want an arrow star take them all but if you're gonna designate some money what are you buying this that's no [ __ ] just video like it would at the price point I'm excited to see what spooky does with Alice cuz Alice comes in a like a teen a yeah I like I like to me a lot but I just don't want to own it right now yeah I'm not going any of these cuz I'm too Bros I think I'll own a teen a soon yeah oh yeah you're about bought one not too long ago yeah but Alice Cooper would be the only thing that would maybe be there but I just like we know nothing about it but price point is good for me the price point is six something yeah so it's not far off heaven feels good I know it's tough it's tough guys it's tough because this is this is a good game maybe you wait a little bit until they or maybe just get one now and play and have a lot of fun that's what I did and I'm loving every second now if I had I will tell you I still want to pirates and I would take a pirate's total have one of pirates too but the problem is is pirates a little bit more money quite a bit more money 2500 more yeah and like that sucks that's quite a bit you know and especially if I had a collector's pirate I don't have the money to spend ninety five hundred dollars on a pinball machine I don't really have seven then this pirate this is more loaded the price reflects the difference between these two pins $2,500 this thing is you've got all the second is for gonna catapult throws the ball 22 you've gotta shoot the ball with a can it's not I will tell you this like I like the shooting of the cannon but this is a little bit more the ball gimmick and this is a little bit better than pirates because it done goes for yeah it's just such a short thing it's still really cool but it's not as visually Wow but I do love with $2,500 great walk into a whole lot you know what I want to do just buy them both I agree that's what you need to do them both oh yeah TNA by Pirates of the Caribbean Bayou Houdini I just don't buy you the newest stern mission I just don't think he's go wrong with this at the price point I I guess I got to concede to what you were saying and say yes if there was a pen right now that I was gonna go buy brand-new to do this you guys heard it here first all right what do these people need to know about about straight down in the middle we do 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