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SDTM: a pinball show Episode 28: Top 10 Magnets

Straight Down the Middle·video·21m 10s·analyzed·Aug 2, 2017
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TL;DR

Top 10 magnet implementations in pinball: X-Men to Addams Family seance cores.

Summary

Zach Sharpe and Greg from Straight Down the Middle: a pinball show present their top 10 list of best magnet implementations in pinball machines, ranking from X-Men at #10 to The Addams Family at #1. The discussion covers how magnets create surprise, unpredictability, and thematic integration across classic and modern pinball titles, with particular emphasis on Pat Lawlor's design philosophy and magnet usage in games like Ghostbusters, The Shadow, and Bram Stoker's Dracula.

Key Claims

  • X-Men's Magneto magnet locks the ball during multiball and drops out four other balls that link together through magnetism

    high confidence · Zach Sharpe and Greg discussing X-Men as #10 on the magnet list

  • The Shadow's magnet is invisible/underneath the playfield and causes unexpected ball behavior, burning out machines frequently

    high confidence · Greg discussing The Shadow as #4 on the list

  • Dialed In has a Theater mode feature where the magnet locks and then releases the ball, similar to The Shadow

    medium confidence · Greg states 'I heard Dialed In does that now in the Theater'

  • Ghostbusters Premium Edition magnet slings are very random and sometimes cause the ball to drain straight down the middle or loop unpredictably

    high confidence · Zach and Greg discussing Ghostbusters as #3, noting gameplay issues

  • Pat Lawlor is known for loving and implementing magnets prominently in his designs, including The Addams Family and Houdini Master of Mystery

    high confidence · Both speakers attributing magnet usage philosophy to Pat Lawlor

  • The Addams Family seance feature uses three magnet cores under the playfield that create randomness during multiball modes

    high confidence · Zach describing The Addams Family as #1 on the magnet list

  • World Cup Soccer has the worst magnet implementation—a magnet flipper that doesn't work reliably

    high confidence · Discussion of worst magnet usage by John Borg

  • Pinball Magic features a lady's hand holding a magic wand with a magnet underneath that allows the ball to roll beneath as the wand moves

    high confidence · Zach describing Pinball Magic as #7, noting it's 'Louis Toy heavy'

  • Dialed In has five magnets total: three under the playfield, one in the Quantum City Theater, and one drone magnet

    high confidence · Zach discussing Dialed In's magnet configuration

Notable Quotes

  • “That's a Gamechanger Pinball. A game changer? Game changer, man.”

    Zach Sharpe and Greg @ Early in video — Playful callback to the pun about magnets being a 'game changer'

  • “We're like Bill Nye now. The magnetism, and it's just cool to see all five metal ball bearings just held together.”

    Greg @ X-Men discussion — Humorous reference while describing X-Men's magnet mechanic

  • “It's magic. And they use some other cool magnets in that game.”

    Greg @ Theater of Magic discussion — Thematic alignment between magnet mechanics and Theater of Magic's magic theme

  • “I find myself, that's probably one feature in pinball that I always am looking forward to is the use of magnets. Yeah. Even on like The Walking Dead. Yeah. You have a couple magnets and they're cool just because it's unpredictable and it's fun.”

    Zach Sharpe @ Transition to #3 — Core philosophy: magnets should be unpredictable and surprising

  • “Because it's Ghost. It's Ghostbusters. It'll juggle them between the slings. And then it'll, like, loop them in a circle and throw it off the playing field. It's perfect.”

    Greg @ Ghostbusters discussion — Thematic justification for problematic gameplay mechanic

  • “Because there's already enough that goes wrong in Ghostbusters. Just drain your damn ball or throw it down the out sling. So the last thing you need is one more mechanism just screwing your damn ball.”

    Zach Sharpe @ Ghostbusters #3 discussion — Criticism of Ghostbusters' overall design philosophy beyond magnets

  • “Every time I have played Bram Stoker's Dracula I just freaking love that son of a bitch every time it comes out I'm just talking about this every time I see it it doesn't get old”

    Greg @ Bram Stoker's Dracula #2 discussion — Emotional response to visual/mechanical spectacle of mist multiball

  • “It was Papa Duke revolutionary at the time because, I mean, magnets were used. Well, it is so much that Dialed In. And Houdini Master of Mystery have them very similarly.”

Entities

Zach SharpepersonGregpersonPat LawlorpersonJohn BorgpersonX-MengameTheater of MagicgameThe Lord of the Ringsgame

Signals

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    community_signal: Dialed In and Houdini Master of Mystery positioned as highly desirable but expensive aspirational games for collectors

    high · Multiple references to wanting these games; Greg: 'God, I want one so bad it has five magnets'; discussion of cost barriers ($4,500+ each)

  • ?

    community_signal: Straight Down the Middle producing YouTube and Facebook content with merchandise sales and event attendance (Pemberger Pride Pinball)

    high · Hosts mention shirt orders, social media channels, and planned event attendance at closing of episode

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    sentiment_shift: The Addams Family viewed as canonical masterpiece in magnet design; its influence on modern Pat Lawlor designs (Houdini, Dialed In) acknowledged and celebrated

    high · Zach: 'God, The Addams Family is everything. Beating a dead horse with how freaking awesome that game is' and recognition that Dialed In and Houdini use 'very similarly' magnet implementations

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Magnet mechanics valued for unpredictability and surprise rather than precision; thematic integration critical to design acceptance

    high · Repeated emphasis on magnets being 'unpredictable,' 'surprising,' and fitting thematic narratives (Ghostbusters ghostly behavior, X-Men magnetism, Dracula control)

  • ?

    historical_signal: Pat Lawlor's The Addams Family recognized as revolutionary magnet implementation that established design template still used 25+ years later

    high · Zach: 'It was Papa Duke revolutionary at the time' and recognition that modern games Dialed In and Houdini use similar magnet core implementations

Topics

Magnet mechanics and design philosophy in pinballprimaryPat Lawlor's influence on magnet implementationprimaryUnpredictability and surprise as design principlesprimaryThematic integration of mechanics (e.g., magnetism in X-Men, Dracula's control)primaryGhostbusters gameplay difficulty and machine wearsecondaryModern magnet designs building on classic innovationssecondaryAftermarket modifications and lighting enhancementssecondarySports fandom and personal preferences (Bears, Colts, NASCAR)mentioned

Sentiment

positive(0.82)— Hosts express enthusiasm and appreciation for magnet implementations across most games, with particular passion for The Addams Family and Bram Stoker's Dracula. Critical sentiment reserved for Ghostbusters' slingshot behavior and World Cup Soccer's broken magnet flipper. Tone is conversational, humorous, and celebratory of pinball design innovation.

Transcript

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Did you hear that? It's plural. Sponsors. It's plural. Yeah, so we got Flip N Out Pinball, home of Chicago Gaming Company Distribution. American Pinball. Thank you. American Pinball Houdini we've got Jersey Jack fantastic you need to get a dialed in I can't afford one but I want one you can afford one you just don't want to buy one it's too tight too much I don't have to sell all my games yeah I know I want one bad though I want a Houdini too I want a Houdini I want them both so check out flipping out Pinball Larry over there is the nicest nicest fellow around very true check out his coin doors yes check out his Hobbit Mons oh fantastic Check out Escalaris. We keep calling them Escalaris. The Escalaris. That's probably my man. The stair climbing hand truck. That's right. Check him out as well as our newest sponsor, PinStadium Lights. Yes. PinStadium Lights are one of the coolest modifications you can add to any pinball machine. Best bang for the buck I think you can get, honestly. So many pinball machines are kind of dark, even the newer stuff. Oh, yeah. Even the newer stuff is kind of dark because there's not enough LEDs. what Penn Stadium lighting does is lights up the entire sides with all different kinds of options. Completely controllable and customizable. App integrated. On brightness, colors, flashers, UV. Check out PennStadium.com for that. We are so happy to be working with Penn Stadium. It's because it's a freaking awesome product. Heck yeah, and I'm going to be installing that bad boy if I haven't done so already on the shadow. Let's get into the top ten. Number ten. Number 10, best use of magnet in a pinball machine is X-Men. Yes, Magneto. You wouldn't even think that, would you? X-Men. No, you wouldn't. So the Magneto magnet locks the ball during multiball, and it drops out, I think, four other balls, and they link together because of the magnetism. Magnetism. Magnetism. We're like Bill Nye now. The magnetism, and it's just cool to see all five metal ball bearings just held together. Yeah, it's freaking awesome, man. By a force that cannot be explained. Which is Magneto. The force that is Magneto. Right? I love it. So, X-Men, number 10. Yeah. Freaking awesome integration of it. It's really cool. They said, hey, it's kind of hard to get any better than that. Is it? We've got nine other ones. Yeah. But that one's awesome. Number nine. Theater of Magic, the trunk magnet. What's really cool about the trunk magnet is you go for the trunk and you hit it, and And it's literally suspending the ball. Yeah. On the trunk. Yeah. Vertical. That's cool. And then it turns around and it's gone. Yeah. I love that. It's magic. And they use some other cool magnets in that game. They do. I call it the Halo magnet where it sucks it up and kind of diverts it. Yeah. But I like that trunk the best on that game, I think. It's really cool. Freaking awesome. All right. Number eight. Lord of the Rings. That's pretty damn awesome. Jackpot. One. Every time I think of Lord of the Rings, I get a thing of that. So it's the ring right at the middle center ramp shot. You start your modes with it. But what is so cool about the magnet use, it's a magnet core. So it makes the ball hover. Yeah. Levitates it. It's pretty sick. It's just beautiful. Unless you get two balls stuck in there. I've never got two balls. Never got two balls? Don't two balls get stuck in there sometimes? I thought two balls would get hung up in there sometimes. Not that I've seen. Not that I've seen. But it hovers. And then especially Destroy the Ring, it hovers. and it represents Gollum and you have to hit it again to knock it out. Oh, man, Lord of the Rings. I miss my Lord of the Rings. Should I get another one? I would. It's really good. I've thought about picking one up. Man, it's really good. But I'm not ready to get rid of Ghostbusters yet. My good buddy next door's got one so I can always play one. Yeah, see? I don't have any pen friends. Well, I do have a lot of pen friends. Really good collections. Yeah. Oh you got everybody around here I was like next door I just throw on my robe and walk down and play pinball just like i at home that what i want i want next door neighbor with i sure larry wouldn care if you just come in a robe yeah hey larry i coming to your house in my robe next time i'm wearing my wearing my house shoes there we need to go over to his house i agree okay number seven pinball magic so what this i'm not familiar with you have to have magnets in a magic game right yeah so there's this uh this lady's hand it's kind of ugly looking but she's holding a magic wand and it's like a diverter where it throws the ball but what's cool about it is it has a magnet under the wand okay and when it comes out it like it rolls under the the oh under the wand yeah so as the wand moves the ball's coming underneath they're not attached the wand no the wand moves like this and it travels under wow that's pretty damn cool it's really cool I like that's another thing you can throw in Harry Potter if Harry Potter ever comes out again another call for Harry Potter I've always wanted a pinball magic but I don't know how deep it is I've never even seen one toy heavy really yeah but look at theater magic that's still fantastic it's toy heavy we'll get to more magic as we get closer to the top all right Number six, Twilight Zone, the power up on that little play field. You control the ball by use of two magnets. Yes. Right? That is really cool. And it's pretty tough to do, really. And the call out's great once you hit that. Yeah. But yeah, it is. I like it. It is controlled very well, too. It is very. Yeah, yeah. It's not as. It's not random. No. If you get it, like you can almost visualize those cores. Yes. And you're like, I've got to get it right there. Yeah. Control is a lot better than what you think that it would be on something like that, especially for the age of the game. In Forge Twilight Zone, we've got to throw in the other magnets around the orbit because it speeds up the shots. So you can have a dinky little shot to the right orbit, and it'll pick it up. Yeah, which you need on a LOD body. That's right. It'll throw it around there. So that was number six. Number five is Getaway. It is so hard not to appreciate the magnets in that supercharger on Getaway. Very much so. The thing is a race car. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. You get about two or three going up there. Yeah, it's pretty sick. I enjoy it. When you, I love. Which I made our top ten toys, didn't it? That's right. I had one for a little bit. And when new people, non-pinball people would come over to play, I'm such a nerd. They would like, they wouldn't get the Supercharger. It's a left-hand. But they wouldn't get it. I'd be like, play again just because I want you to see this. Yeah. And then when they see it, they're like, oh, wow, oh, my gosh. That thing is really cool. I don't like the game other than Supercharger. And I said, like, the very first time I played it, it took me by surprise. I think I might agree with that. We might agree on that. It's the only thing. It's odd. Hey, we agreed. That never happens. Dude, nice job. So that was number five, get away. Supercharger. Number four, the shadow nose. One of the best in pinball. Right? For sure. It locks you when you're locking the ball. It stops it on a magnet that's not visible. It's underneath the play field. It burns the hell out of them a lot of times. But then the lights flicker, and then it pulls it back a little bit. That's what I like. Like, if it would have just simply been, like, just a shoot-off. But the fact that it almost, just a little drop, like, out. Like, oh, my God. And you know what I heard? I heard Dialed In does that now in the theater. Oh, really? You can set it in the theater, the Quantum City Theater, where it locks and then it goes off. See, that's one of the things that I like about magnets, is I like something that takes me by surprise. Exactly. Like, something that I'm not expecting, I don't see it there. Because that's the purpose of your magnets being under your play field. Unpredictable. Unpredictable. You want it to do something weird because you can't see that magnet. You might know where it is eventually, but I want something that takes me by surprise. That's something like what the shadow does and different things. That's the lure of the magnet. I find myself, that's probably one feature in pinball that I always am looking forward to is the use of magnets. Yeah. Even on like The Walking Dead. Yeah. You have a couple magnets and they're cool just because it's unpredictable and it's fun. Yeah. Now speaking of unpredictable, number three. haters gonna hate greg yeah this one uh this is when we were making the list i was like man i really wonder whether zach's gonna have this on his because i feel like you can't you can't talk about magnets without it but it's ghostbusters yes premium le the use of magnet sling so instead of using uh the coils firing uh your slingshots there are magnet cores under there yes and they They're very random. And I don't necessarily like them being used as the sling. I don't like the feel of them as playing. Yes. But when it does do random weird shit to it, it's fantastic. Because it's Ghost. It's Ghostbusters. It'll juggle them between the slings. And then it'll, like, loop them in a circle and throw it off the playing field. It's perfect. The problem is a lot of times it goes loopy-loop and throws it right down the middle. Yeah. Which I think... But still. It doesn't matter. It's still a great use of magnet that hasn't been done before. No, no. And hopefully if they ever try it again, it's improved. Yeah that why it number three I like to see it somewhere else that type of action but somewhere else Somewhere where it not so deprimental Like if you would have taken like Rob Zombie put those slings up top and if you were to do something... Magnets there, that's a great idea. Exactly, if you were to do something up top like that, so that it's not so damn deprimental that it's just going to cause your game... Yeah, it could be the living dead girl magnets. Because there's already enough that goes wrong in Ghostbusters. Just drain your damn ball or throw it to the out sling. So the last thing you need is one more mechanism just screwing your damn ball. I heard you love when the ball comes out of the pops right down the middle. You know, mine doesn't happen that bad. Mine don't either. Not at all. You know what I get is, I mean, it's like a lot of games, but the trajectory off of that sling sometimes, it just literally throws it straight down those outlines. I hate that. That's the one that pisses me off more. But that's slingshot. Yeah, that wire, you cannot, there's no nudging because it's just all wire and there's nothing there. There's no rubber. There's nothing to bounce it out. Like, you can still take metal on, freaking metal would bounce, but that damn thing I beat the hell out of the machine don't get it but don't you're not going to get the little rubber save no hell no that's what it is I play a game the way it's intended that's what it is okay carrot flippers if you guys have carrot flippers on Ghostbusters just stop but you know what I'm going to tell you this sorry we're kind of off track here with this I will tell you what though if I went on carpet and I couldn't I mean I have to my I got something in like tendon problems in my elbow from beating the hell out of that machine I'm not going to lie to you because you have to you have to move you have to move that machine That's the only bad thing is I think that the game is very playable. I actually don't mind the flipper gap, but you have got to be accustomed to moving that machine. Because it's, to me, I mean, that's why I don't hate it because it's actually become a part of the game. Knowing that I've got to move the machine. You've got to move it. It's just part of it. No, I'm not death saving it. No. I'm pretty strong with it. I don't do that. But, yeah. No, I don't do that. That's number three. It's got to be there, guys. I know it's tough on that game, but you've got to do it. And number two and number one, like most of ours. This is kind of a back and forth. I think so. I love this number two, but I will agree with number one. Okay. Number two is Bram Stoker's Dracula Mist multiball. What the hell is that? It's my mist ball. It's my mist ball. It's my mist ball. All right. So Misty over here has, it's a ball that it's got a magnet under it on a rope, a track and it drags a magnet and while it does, your ball looks like it's being controlled by Dracula. It goes from one side of the playfield to the other side. And it hides. It's hidden and it streams out and it hides again. And you've got to hit that ball to get your multiball. Which is fantastic. That's one of the best visuals in pinball. Oh, I think so too because it's another one of those shocking things. And I don't give a I mean, I don't own ones. Maybe get old, but every time I've played BSD I just freaking love that son of a bitch every time it comes out I'm just talking about this every time I see it it doesn't get old I'm just like oh there it is again it's just like the shadow does the same thing to me like oh there it is again freaking fantastic use so everybody knows what number one is by now I don't know if they do seance it's the Adams family the power the three magnet cores under the play field that during multiball or during, I think it's something, one of the modes, the balls are just, they're everywhere. Yeah. They could stop in their damn tracks and jump over to the right, straight back up. Yeah. And it was pretty revolutionary at the time because, I mean, magnets were used. Well, it is so much that dialed in. And Houdini have them very similarly. Yeah. And it's another one of those things that changes the game. It fits the theme. It fits the modes, everything that they use them for. It's fantastic. It's very unexpected. and just depending on where your ball rolls over and what happens, how it's going to affect it. It's another randomness that fits pinball. I think Pat Lawler loves magnets. Oh, I love Pat Lawler. I do too. We agreed twice in one video. Dude, this is scary. But I'm kind of hungover. Yeah, he had two beers. Oh, duels. Thank you. Thank you. So Donald Inn does it, Pat Lawler. Yeah. and Houdini as well has the seance under it so I like the even Adam's family has the the thing magnet he grabs it which is nice but it's a magnet it's just grabbing a ball and dialed in god I want one so bad it has five magnets it's got the three under it's got the one over by the quantum theater it's got the one and the quantum theater and then it has one the drones yeah yeah just randomly yep throws it up yeah that's again God, Donald Dune is everything. Beating a dead horse with how freaking awesome that game is, but you can't not talk about it. Let's get one. We got two. You want two? Just play hell out of it. You just want to split one? I told you I'd split a game with you and we'll go back and forth. Yeah, I'll go half-sie with it. Half-sie? I would never go $4,500 half-sies into anything. That's crazy. Really? I was dead serious. I'd split one with you. I want it all to myself. You keep it for two or three months? I'll keep it for two or three months. Do you guys do that Do you guys have any buddies that you go halfsies on the games with I go halfsies I can see going halfsies on a game but not a game Well we can go halfsies on them I not pro Oh, Walking Dead pro. That's been routed. That we can get for $4,000. You're getting cheap on me. Mr. Moneybag's over here running through the games, and then when it comes to halfsies, we've got to get a routed turn. I've got a Xenon right now. Halfsies on a Xenon. Sorry. All right, guys. That's our top ten list. We were going to do a bottom three like we always do, but there's really only one that stood out to us magnet-wise that just sucks, and that's on World Cup Soccer. It has its own flipper. Poor John Papadu. He has some cool magnets in games. Circus Voltaire, Toten, cool stuff. I'll give him that. But the worst, the worst is trying to save the damn ball. At the end of the flipper, there's like a magnet cord. You have to hit the button. It doesn't work. It sucks. And all the other magnets. I mean, they're just magnets. You can't really rip them just because, like, Fang just picks the ball up and does everything. You can get mad about those. Yeah, I mean, you got Iron Man, Monger, or the Whiplash. It kind of just went. Those are just normal use. We do have some honorable mentions. Honorable mentions being Circus Voltaire Ringmaster is really cool, how it bobbles up on top of his head. NASCAR, you guys, if you guys want an underrated game, NASCAR is it. The theme itself kind of blows unless you're into NASCAR. I mean, I'm not into it, but I watch it. I'm pretty sure you have a Rusty Wallace shirt. You've got a Dale Earnhardt poster. You have a Dale Earnhardt Jr. stand-up in your office. I have absolutely no NASCAR memorabilia. And if I went through the Lundy's drawer, I bet you got some Joey Logano thongs. The only memorabilia I have is movies and Chicago Bears. The Bears. The Bears. The Bears suck. The Bears suck. I love them. Colts. Colts is worse. that. Oh, geez. I can't even make that comment. Look, Mr. Neutral over here, I don't want to offend anybody. There's two kinds of fans that you want to stay away from in this area. It's Colts fans and UK fans. Those are the two fans you want to stay away from. I don't agree with the Kentucky fans you got to stay away from. Both of them. Blue and white. You can go to a Colts game with anybody? Yeah, I'll go. They play Bears. That should be fun. That should be fun. Alright, yeah, they did. It was the Super preseason. No, they played preseason a few games ago, too. What happened at the Super Bowl, I think they played, right? Hell, I don't remember that. Which one? Colts won. Okay. And then Star Track. Stern Star Track ball lock. That's kind of cool. The magnet holds it, and then you've got to dislodge it by hitting that magnet to get your third multi... Well, really, I love the game, but, you know, Lost World's pretty cool, too, man. It comes flying around the orbits, and it's got an under the play field magnet. Actually, it's got a magnet up top that down the inner orbit, and then any orbit you come around, if you do a ball lock, it comes winging around and stops dead on the play field, then the snagger comes down with its magnet, picks the ball up, and drops it. Is that code for snagger? Because that's the way it comes down. It comes out the back of the Humvee and picks it up and dumps it. But it stops it dead in the middle of the play field. It's like, shoot! And then boom! How about that game? How about that? And then the last honorable mention is the Hobbit. The Hobbit's really cool just because it's very functional so it's got two magnets in the back of the orbits you can't really see but the one of them has a little hidey hole and the magnet so it locks the ball on the magnet and then it lets it go and it goes into a hole where you can add a ball during your next mode yeah very functional i guess so lost world all right have a good one guys this is zach and greg from straight down the middle. Check out the other SDTM videos as well as subscribing to our YouTube as well as Facebook. We've got to get that Facebook going. We still have a few shirts left that you guys can order. Yeah, order some shirts. And are you going to Pemburger Pride? I'll already be by the time we list this. Hopefully you guys saw this cat at replay. He's flaky. He won't even show up. I'll show up. I already got my hotel booked. That doesn't mean you can't cancel. Well, this is true. All right, see you guys. You hit it off with a bumper knife, straight down the metal gate. Metal gate. You had a fling with a fling shot, you're rolling out the island again. Yeah, I really do. This is an old school game. It's pretty. All right, guys, this is Zach and Craig. Were you ready? Nope. Nope? We'll start over. Or should we? Oh, yeah, I know. We're good? Yeah, we're good. We don't want to edit. No. Let's do it. What's that? It's time consuming. Okay. Gigi, baby. I love it. Oh, we're not still going? No, we're not. Oh. Come here. Sit down! I'm going to put her in the video. Come here. No, fuck that shit. People want to see a nasty little donut. Fuck that little donut. Get out of here, you stink. She's been in the swimming pool and everything else. Get out of here. Not Gigi. Nasty little shit. You're so mean to your kids. All right.
  • Ghostbusters requires significant machine nudging/movement to play effectively due to difficult flipper gaps and slingshot behavior

    high confidence · Greg noting he has tendon problems from beating the machine and that movement is necessary

  • Zach Sharpe @ Addams Family #1 discussion — Recognition of The Addams Family's historical influence on modern magnet design

  • “It's very unexpected. and just depending on where your ball rolls over and what happens, how it's going to affect it. It's another randomness that fits pinball.”

    Greg @ Addams Family discussion — Philosophy that randomness and unpredictability are core to good pinball design

  • “God, The Addams Family is everything. Beating a dead horse with how freaking awesome that game is, but you can't not talk about it.”

    Zach Sharpe @ Closing #1 discussion — Reaffirmation of The Addams Family's canonical importance in pinball

  • Pinball Magic
    game
    Twilight Zonegame
    Getawaygame
    The Shadowgame
    Ghostbusters Premium Editiongame
    Bram Stoker's Draculagame
    The Addams Familygame
    Houdini Master of Mysterygame
    Dialed Ingame
    World Cup Soccergame
    Pin Stadium Lightsproduct
    Flip N Out Pinballcompany
    Jersey Jack Pinballcompany
    The Hobbit (Standard Edition)game
    Lost Worldgame
  • $

    market_signal: Secondary market for routed/used games (AC/DC, Xenon) discussed as affordable entry point for budget-conscious collectors

    medium · Discussion of going 'halfsies' on games and purchasing 'routed turn' used games at ~$4,000 vs new premium pricing

  • ?

    community_signal: Content creation focus on thematic analysis and mechanical appreciation rather than competitive meta; hosts value emotional/aesthetic responses to design

    high · Emphasis on how magnets create surprise and visual spectacle (Bram Stoker's Dracula mist, Shadow's invisible mechanics) rather than strategy discussion

  • ?

    product_strategy: Pin Stadium Lights positioned as low-cost, high-impact modification for dark pinball machines including newer releases

    high · Greg states 'Best bang for the buck I think you can get, honestly' and notes newer machines are still 'kind of dark' without aftermarket LED systems

  • ?

    product_concern: Ghostbusters Premium Edition's magnet slings create gameplay frustration through excessive randomness and frequent unfair ball drains; requires compensatory machine movement

    high · Greg reports tendon problems from beating machine, Zach notes mechanism 'screwing your damn ball,' and both acknowledge gameplay balance issue despite thematic justification

  • ?

    technology_signal: Aftermarket LED lighting systems (Pin Stadium Lights) becoming standard quality-of-life upgrade for modern pinball collections

    medium · Greg plans to install Pin Stadium Lights on The Shadow; positioned as essential for addressing inadequate factory LED implementation in newer games