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JJP rumored to reveal Friday; Deeproot Monday; Avengers praised; manufacturing doubts for new startups
JJP will reveal their next game this Friday and will have games ready to ship by Friday
medium confidence · Ian and Drew discuss a rumor from a 'very reliable source' about JJP's reveal timing before Deeproot's Monday announcement
Deeproot is revealing their next game on Monday
high confidence · Drew and Ian reference teaser content from Deeproot confirming Monday reveal date
Stern's Avengers game has impressive animations that are better quality than comic book style, more like animated feature films
high confidence · Drew and Ian discuss the livestream reveal with Jack Danger, Keith Elwin, and Raymond Davidson; they praise the animation package as Stern's best to date
The main concern with Deeproot is not financial backing but manufacturing capability and timely delivery
high confidence · Drew and Ian explicitly state the worry is manufacturing woes, supply chain, and delays rather than financial issues or bankruptcy
JJP needs to release two games per year to be financially viable
medium confidence · Drew states 'J.J.P. needs to figure out how to get two games out a year, and they'll be okay'
Toy Story is a future Deeproot title in development
medium confidence · Ian speculates about Toy Story as a Deeproot release, saying 'I think Toy Story's done' and suggesting it could drop for Christmas
Deeproot's Raza is expected to be a limited run
medium confidence · Ian and Drew discuss whether Raza will be limited edition, with Ian arguing 'It's a limited run' and estimating 200-300 units
Robert Mueller (Deeproot owner) has manufacturing experience and financial backing secured
medium confidence · Drew says 'Robert Mueller has the money, he has the backing, he has experience with certain manufacturing'
Stern's use of animated content vs. licensed movie clips depends on licensing rights and property agreements
“rumor has it JJP reveal their next game this Friday. This Friday. And they will have games ready to ship by Friday.”
Drew or Ian @ mid-episode during news segment — Major rumor about JJP's announcement timing and immediate availability, attempting to overshadow Deeproot's Monday reveal
“Keith Elwin and Raven Davidson are obviously two of the best players in the world, and people are saying, like, this game kicked Jack Danger's ass.”
Drew @ Avengers reveal discussion — Commentary on competitive difficulty level of Avengers game and skill disparity shown during livestream
“my point is, if Robert comes out and says, hey, here's Raza, it's awesome, and everyone's even like, this is super cool, but you might have to wait five, six, eight, ten months, that might be a problem for them. That's a big problem.”
Drew @ Deeproot manufacturing discussion — Core concern about Deeproot's ability to deliver games timely after announcement, risking customer cancellations
“The biggest question mark isn't necessarily the games, because we know they have some talent over there. It's manufacturing, right?”
Ian @ Deeproot analysis — Identifies manufacturing as Deeproot's critical risk factor, not game design quality
“I'm impressed with the wire forms. I'm impressed with the overall execution of everything with the shots and the animations and how the animations actually match the art pretty good.”
Drew @ Avengers game discussion — Praise for Avengers game design execution and animation quality in Stern's recent work
“J.J.P. needs to figure out how to get two games out a year, and they'll be okay.”
Drew @ JJP discussion — Assessment of JJP's business model viability tied to production throughput
“We don't have facts. We just have rumors. Are you going to say that on a live air?... we are the dumbest show. We don't... Well, first of all, we have five people listening to us right now.”
Drew and Ian — Meta-commentary on show format and willingness to discuss unverified rumors while disclaiming accuracy
announcement: Stern Avengers game officially revealed via livestream with Jack Danger, Keith Elwin, and Raymond Davidson showcasing gameplay
high · Drew and Ian extensively discuss livestream reveal, animations, and gameplay impressions in detail
rumor_hype: JJP rumored to reveal next game Friday with ready-to-ship inventory, timing to overshadow Deeproot Monday reveal
medium · Ian states rumor from 'very reliable source' but hosts explicitly disclaim this as unconfirmed; strategic timing speculated
announcement: Deeproot confirmed to reveal game Monday based on teaser campaign
high · Multiple references to Deeproot's Monday announcement and viral marketing campaign teasing a date reveal
business_signal: Deeproot's manufacturing capability and delivery timeline identified as critical market concern vs. game design quality
high · Ian: 'The biggest question mark isn't necessarily the games... It's manufacturing, right?' Discussion of supply chain and timely delivery risk
product_strategy: JJP revenue model assessed as dependent on two-game-per-year production capacity to remain financially viable
medium · Drew: 'J.J.P. needs to figure out how to get two games out a year, and they'll be okay'
design_innovation: Stern's Avengers animations praised as best-in-class animation package with film-quality rendering vs. comic book or basic animation styles
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high confidence · Extensive discussion about how properties like Jurassic Park, Beatles, and Aerosmith approached animations vs. clips based on IP licensing availability
Pinball FX 3 is harder and less satisfying than physical pinball because button-based nudging feels wrong
high confidence · Ian criticizes digital pinball simulation, saying 'that shit's hard and stupid' and dislikes 'nudging by pressing a button'
“if it is a limited run, it is their first game. They're already bleeding. We don't need another Lebowski debacle.”
Ian @ Deeproot risk assessment — Reference to previous crowdfunding failures in pinball industry (Lebowski) as cautionary tale for Deeproot launch
“I give it a month to get the first games out... First truck leaves the show. So, 25 games in a month.”
Drew @ Deeproot expectations — Sets concrete expectation for Deeproot's initial production and delivery timeline
“That makes sense? Like it's higher quality than just a comic book. It's up there. I mean, comparing that to like the Deadpool animations, I really dig these. I think this is like a much more rounded... animation package from Stern.”
Drew @ Avengers animation praise — Detailed assessment of Stern's animation evolution and quality compared to previous titles
high · Drew: 'animation package from Stern... probably their best animation' and comparison to Deadpool, Iron Maiden, Jurassic Park prior work
licensing_signal: Licensing constraints analyzed as determining factor in pinball game's use of animated content vs. licensed film/TV clips
high · Extended discussion of how Jurassic Park, Beatles, Aerosmith, Guardians of the Galaxy approached animation vs. clip licensing differently
rumor_hype: Toy Story speculated as upcoming Deeproot title in advanced development, possibly releasing for Christmas
low · Ian: 'I think Toy Story's done' and 'Toy Story might not be far behind' Guns and Roses; unconfirmed speculation
competitive_signal: Avengers game shown to be highly challenging; elite players Keith Elwin and Raymond Davidson visibly outmatformed designer/streamer Jack Danger
high · Drew: 'this game kicked Jack Danger's ass... Keith Elwin and Raven Davidson... they're explaining the game' and demonstrating mastery
community_signal: Skepticism toward Deeproot's manufacturing readiness despite trust in ownership's intent and financial backing
medium · Ian clarifies manufacturing concerns are separate from financial concerns; discussion of needing clean launch and timely delivery vs. Spooky track record
content_signal: Ian streaming Pinball FX 3 on Facebook Live to meet platform hour requirements for monetization eligibility
high · Ian: 'I got to play it via the Internet on a keyboard... streaming on Facebook Live... we need to hit a certain amount of hours'
collector_signal: Deeproot's Raza expected to be limited run (200-300 units estimated) raising questions about customer commitment and secondary market timing
medium · Ian and Drew debate whether limited run will affect buyer confidence and willingness to wait for delivery; reference Spooky's proven delivery model