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Top 10 Most Overrated Pinball Machines Of All Time

Straight Down the Middle·video·18m 2s·analyzed·Jan 10, 2021
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TL;DR

Straight Down the Middle ranks top 10 most overrated pinball machines, led by Quicksilver and The The Addams Family.

Summary

Greg and Zach from Straight Down the Middle present their top 10 list of most overrated pinball machines, featuring Quicksilver at #1, The The Addams Family at #2, and Big Bang Bar at #3. The hosts critique machines that are highly valued by the community for reasons including rarity, aesthetics, and competitive play, but argue they don't deliver sufficient gameplay depth or enjoyment to justify their prices and reputation. The video covers classic Williams/Capcom titles, System 11 games, and rare machines, with particular criticism directed at theme-over-substance designs and expensive secondary market pricing.

Key Claims

  • Kingpin (Capcom) originals still sell for $15,000-$20,000 despite lacking sufficient gameplay depth for the price

    high confidence · Greg discussing #10 entry; claims originals command high secondary market prices

  • Raymond Davidson (ranked #1 competitive player) loves Family Guy, which Zach considers overrated

    high confidence · Zach explicitly names Raymond Davidson as #1 player who disagrees with his Family Guy criticism

  • The The Addams Family is one that owners eventually stop playing after experiencing the mansion tour once

    high confidence · Both hosts describe consistent pattern: owners say they like it but don't want to replay it; theme wears thin after initial experience

  • Quicksilver is described as having an ugly all-green playfield and poor cabinet design that doesn't justify its high secondary market price

    high confidence · Zach's #1 pick; explicitly calls it 'expensive turd,' criticizes green playfield and side cabinet design

  • White Water lacks wizard mode and deep rules despite high pricing and community praise

    high confidence · Greg's #7 entry with disclaimer that he later reconsidered his position; cites missing wizard mode as weakness

  • Big Bang Bar is purely driven by rarity rather than gameplay quality and is being remade by an unnamed company

    medium confidence · Zach's #3 entry; mentions remake talks but refuses to name the manufacturer out of respect for the people involved

  • Elvira and the Party Monsters secondary market prices range from $1,700-$2,300+ despite weak System 11 rules

    high confidence · Greg lists specific price points ($1,700, $2,000, $2,300) for used machines; criticizes weak rules

  • Batman 66 has no strong signature shot that makes it distinctive, despite being praised for George Gomez rotisserie design

    high confidence · Zach asks anyone who toutes the game to name their favorite shot and gets non-answers; notes rotisserie is complex but doesn't translate to fun

Notable Quotes

  • “it's an expensive piece of turd if you got it in your collection”

    Zach@ 11:20 — Zach's blunt summary of Quicksilver as #1 most overrated; headline-grade criticism of competitive favorite

  • “they might be classics they might be the greatest but come on you guys put them on this pedestal we're about to knock them off”

    Greg@ 1:26 — Sets tone for list: challenging community consensus on machines based on rarity/status rather than play value

  • “the only reason anybody should ever own party monsters is if you have the other two games and just want to completely try effectively”

    Zach@ 8:43 — Dismisses Elvira and the Party Monsters as purely collector's set piece with no standalone value

  • “once you get through the tour of the mansion you don't need to tour it anymore”

    Greg@ 13:41 — Key criticism of Addams Family: novelty wears off quickly, doesn't have lasting replay value

  • “i'll never understand quicksilver... buy seven meteors”

    Zach@ 14:36 — Explicit price-to-value critique; suggests alternative classic machines offer better value

  • “send hate mail right in the comments section below”

    Greg@ 5:17 — Greg's self-aware comment after including White Water on overrated list despite having praised it previously; acknowledges controversy

Entities

GregpersonZachpersonRaymond DavidsonpersonPat LawlorpersonGeorge Gomezperson[name withheld pending review]personStraight Down the Middleorganization

Signals

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Despite praising iconic designers like George Gomez and Pat Lawler, hosts argue their machines are overrated by the community; suggests design pedigree no longer guarantees modern play value or justifies secondary market prices

    high · Multiple critiques of Pat Lawler games (Family Guy, Safe Cracker) and George Gomez (Batman 66) with explicit acknowledgment of their talent but rejection of the games' worth

  • $

    market_signal: Consistent pattern: machines command high secondary market prices ($1,700-$20,000+) not justified by gameplay depth, rules complexity, or replay value according to hosts

    high · Kingpin ($15-20K), Elvira PM ($1.7-2.3K+), Quicksilver (expensive but price not specified), Spirit (hefty price tag mentioned), all criticized despite pricing

  • ?

    collector_signal: Rarity drives collector desire independent of actual gameplay quality; machines like Big Bang Bar valued primarily for scarcity rather than fun factor

    high · Zach explicitly states Big Bang Bar is 'purely driven by the rarity,' and notes fluorescent plastic and rarity as reasons for value despite poor gameplay

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Theme-heavy machines (Addams Family, Family Guy) have high one-time appeal but diminishing replay value; players exhaust core novelty (mansion tour, level progression) quickly

    high · Consistent testimony: Addams Family owners say they like it but don't want to replay; playfield novelty wears thin after initial experience; compared to rewatching a film once

  • ?

    community_signal: Competitive players' game preferences (Quicksilver, Batman 66) diverge significantly from casual/collector enthusiasm; hosts predict anger from tournament community over Quicksilver ranking

Transcript

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[Applause] [Music] shout out to ken cromwell i guess this is straight down the middle this is greg i am zach we're here for another wonderful video what do you want to say about special wind lit edition maybe we are lit right now we are here we got to be lit to give them the next top 10 list because this one is gonna this one might uh put some noses some feathers it might ruffle some feathers actually a lot of people might agree with them top ten most i don't know overrated most overrated pinball machines of all time you heard it we're gonna break some hearts today but these pens are just not worth what you think they're not that fun nope they're not that they're no they might be good games they might be a little rare there might be some rare it's fine but that does not they might be classics they might be the greatest but come on you guys put them on this pedestal we're about to knock them off yep too many people talk about them tenth most overrated pinball machine it's gotta be kingpin yeah the capcom game sure it's a good game it's fun uh the guys at uh circus maximus i think we're trying to i don't know whatever happened to that i don't know but you know that was decent it was decent it's fine the remit but not for the money no this original that i think originals still go for like fifteen twenty thousand dollars you can buy so much more gain than that yeah i like the spinners on the ramps it's clever but there's not enough there people don't keep valuing that pen so high that's overrated the number nine most overrated pinball machine is one that i loathe i hate it uh even some of my friends what including raymond davidson raven davidson is the number one pinball player in the entire earth the world he loves this game ray day you're just wrong man it's family guy take your pick sorry pat lawler they're both layouts they both suck i feel like i'm playing a single level game i had a friend who drove forever to go pick up a family guy got it and he was kind of like that's it yeah and there's there are a lot of money yeah they are they know you yeah they're not cheap i've just never been a big i'm like shitty give me a give me a data east lethal weapon over over that arrow like just something in there you kind of like like south park's not a bad game but you still had that same level like the way the play fields were made or looked like it was just something just about that every time it goes up the upper little mini playfield oh god you got bb's mini balls sucks that game blows way over stop talking about it pricing it that's a 2800 game yes and i wouldn't buy it no i wouldn't buy it and it's ugly no i like the family guy i like family guy too but the pen there's some unique stuff the best toy right in the middle that can ugh not good number eight this game pisses me off too why do people like i'm i'm a little angry here why do people like this game so much i don't know again a pat lawler i'm sorry pat safe cracker oh like i don't know if it's like the weird nostalgia of it with the coins and difference i don't know i don't get it maybe it's like collectors because i remember when i first got into pinball like people touted it it was one of those things like safe cracker no i hate the format it's like a time based thing i hate the layout how it's smaller it doesn't feel good i feel like i'm shooting for a bubblegum piece of bubblegum i played one of the show like when when when i first got into pinball because people were talking i was like there's a safe crack and there was a line and like i was like i want to play this and i was just i got a better planet and i was like um no no this is not what i like why are people talking about this oh that's that's another pat lawler yeah the next one comes with a comes with a disclaimer um i do not agree with this and i think greg was smoking crack or some substance when he urged and pushed and said you know what you got one on the top 10 underrated list i'm going to give you this one and you guys see it on the screen right now white water i think it's terrific okay i love that game full disclaimer okay when we were compiling this list a while back i don't know what mood i was in when i was arguing against this i think some of it came to price point for which it is priced high yeah it's the the rules aren't as deep no and i think that that's the thing not even a wizard mode no that's what i'm saying i that was kind of my major argument um after some form of reflection i do very much enjoy the shooting of this send hate mail right in the comments section below but seems great again for the price and what you get and i mean the theme's pretty cool looks pretty cool but it's still the code on that game at that price there's a lot better games that you can get for that price that's fine and everybody touts white water you know what's going to make people even more angry is our number six because i think the game sucks now this is and everybody's getting this is the reversal of white one yeah i didn't want this in the list or no you did one i wanted i tried to say no and you're like if i'm gonna give you white water exactly you're giving me this batman 66. you heard it shirts george gomez shirts lime and sheet shirts capel but sure it's effing boring no oh i think it's fun i enjoy it i'm not like into that era either for ever adam west batman but it's just every time somebody tries to look up for this game i always ask them one thing and they leave me with a non-answer what's your favorite shot on that game um i'm not really a good shot on that you know what's bad is that is the only game that i think the crane disagreed on in a hater pinball love it nope love it but no i can see where that it can be over hyped for what it is because it is it's holding value oh it's boring it is it's it's a pretty pen like i i i do think that it is slightly over hyped for the way it shoots

“everyone that i've ever talked to that owns an adams family says yeah really liked it but... if you're a pinball person it's like twilight zone you gotta own it at least once”

Zach@ 13:13 — Captures the cultural status vs. actual replay value disconnect for Addams Family

  • “i don't want to spend that much money and lug it to the basement and then pull it out in three weeks because i'm done”

    Zach@ 13:49 — Describes the actual collector experience that contradicts the enthusiast community's passionate praise

  • Kingpin
    game
    Family Guygame
    Safe Crackergame
    White Watergame
    Batman 66game
    Elvira and the Party Monstersgame
    Spiritgame
    Big Bang Bargame
    The Addams Familygame
    Quicksilvergame
    Cactus Canyongame
    Pinball Magicgame
    Alien Stargame
    Twilight Zonegame
    Meteorgame
    [name withheld pending review]game
    Led Zeppelin (Pro)game
    Shrekgame

    high · Zach states Quicksilver ranking 'is gonna make all the competitive players very angry'; notes tournament players defend complex layouts that casual players find boring

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Hosts distinguish between visual/thematic appeal and actual playfield mechanics; criticize machines where theme/aesthetics (Batman 66 rotisserie, Big Bang Bar fluorescence) overshadow weak shot design or rule depth

    high · Batman 66: George Gomez rotisserie is complex but 'doesn't translate to fun'; Big Bang Bar: 'neat looking' but poor gameplay; Family Guy/Shrek: same playfield layout philosophy criticized

  • ?

    product_strategy: Big Bang Bar is being remade by an unspecified manufacturer; hosts find remake inexplicable given the game's poor gameplay despite rarity; suggests potential strategic miscalculation in IP remaster selections

    medium · Zach mentions remake talks but refuses to name manufacturer 'because I love the people there'; explicitly questions why it would be remade when gameplay doesn't support it

  • ?

    industry_signal: Pat Lawler appears on multiple overrated list entries (Family Guy, Safe Cracker, possibly Shrek); suggests potential shift in community perception of his design philosophy or era

    medium · Greg apologizes to Pat Lawler multiple times; Zach expresses strong dislike for his layout approaches; multiple entries attributed to his designs

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Machines with complex rules (Quicksilver, Batman 66) don't guarantee enjoyment if core shots are boring or repetitive; rules depth alone insufficient to justify collector value

    high · Zach re Quicksilver: 'I don't even care about the rules the rules are fine'; Batman 66: complex rotisserie doesn't overcome boring shots; Elvira PM: stacking mechanics insufficient for price

  • ?

    content_signal: Hosts explicitly anticipate backlash and invite disagreement in comments; suggest underrated machines video as counterpoint; position list as deliberately provocative for engagement

    high · Greg invites hate mail; Zach says list 'might ruffle some feathers'; both reference companion underrated list; ask for feedback in comments suggesting engagement strategy

  • $

    market_signal: Implicit critique that machines valued by home collectors (Addams Family, Quicksilver, Spirit) differ from what actually retains play value or holds interest in regular use

    medium · Pattern of owners not replaying Addams Family despite owning; high prices unjustified for actual use; contrast between 'want to own' and 'don't want to play'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: Greg and Zach disagreed on several entries (White Water, Batman 66); Greg later expressed doubt about his own positions, showing list reflects debate and compromise rather than consensus

    high · White Water: Greg's #7 pick with disclaimer 'I do not agree with this... I was smoking crack'; Greg later reconsidered after reflection; both acknowledged Batman 66 as example of their sole disagreement

  • 6:58
    and the layout and that's all and everything that rotisserie george gomez is a genius and that rotisserie is so complex but when i hit a damn ramp and then i get to hit the phone that's lit and it's not turned yet and i gotta try to no it's a fail that game is no bueno friends it's fun arts looks nice ish i think theme and i think theme and code go a long way on that long way down the because that game sucks the most the top five we're in top five now the fifth most overrated pinball machine of all time well we're really gonna make people mad as we go up on this list elvira in the party monsters it's a fine game it is fun it's fine it's fun but it gets boring you can just keep shooting it and keep stacking and it's not great no it's not overly difficult give me a lot of other system 11 yeah at half the price give me any other elvira pin i'll take scared stiff or house a horse and it's another one that that's probably it's it's overrated with the price and people buying it because i i would own one i would like one i could say nowhere near going to pay the price for because the game does not hold up to the price into the way that people hype it and the the the want for this game rule says in system 11. very much so and that that's again it's the weak point it falls into those rules it shoots it shoots pretty good you get that one ramp that's fine yeah i like that it's fun but it's just not where it is it's a it's a freaking seventeen hundred dollar game two thousand dollar game yeah and it goes with it four thousand dollars two thousand dollars twenty three hundred dollars let's go let's give it let's get up there twenty three hundred bucks it is all that game is worth take your money elsewhere i think the only reason for anybody to ever a strong take the only reason anybody should ever own party monsters is if you have the other two games and just want to completely try effectively and people pay stupid money for beat up ones why that's like batman there's not a good batman game no i don't like any of the batman games no i'm dead east the forever batman forever they're all okay i know you're a batman fan now the number four most overrated pinball machine is one that is a beauty it is a beauty people love it it's a god leap and it's rare yeah and it's made our top list for top back glasses it's spirit spirit yeah it's pretty it is pretty it's multi it takes a lot of risk got multi levels in it and some people really like the code they really love that game yeah it puts me to sleep yep i think there's nothing going on in there that makes me want to go back from nowhere no again you're paying a hefty price tag for it and people demand it one of the ones that didn't mess reminds me one of the ones that didn't make our list um and people are going to get mad at me alien star people love alien star it looks cool let's just play an alien star it's boring man long ball time it's just boring nothing i know there's a thing you do the thing no boring boring boring oh the number three this could get remade i just don't understand why i don't every time i hear it the third most overrated pinball machine of all time is cat another capcom yes big bang bar i don't get it nope it's neat looking sure it looks neat because it's got fluorescent plastic there's rarity but when there was talks it and i i love the company and i'm not even going to mention them because i love the people there they'll let me make it the the talks of this getting remade still when i think about it today it never makes sense to me of why that it's getting remade like i i don't know i and i just for the rarity i guess yeah i don't understand because it's not a you shoot it it's not good no and like cactus canyon i can get behind characters can you there's some questions that's a fun game it's fun i like the theme the shots i do too so i can get behind that like this the strip pole like no dancer alien i don't get it at the left ramp is cool i think it's one of those things that's just purely driven by the rarity i think pinball magic is cooler pinball magic is happy magic's actually it's a pretty good game yeah those those mechs and what they do with them are fun it's it's a neat structure to that coat it's not bad i don't get big bang bar no i don't either never had but no no overrated very sorry number one you got an expensive piece of turd if you got it in your collection no the wait is over a revolution in led lighting for your pinball is finally here fully customizable full spectrum lighting from penn stadium lights order yours now at kingstadium.com chrome it brass it black nicolette candy chrome it powder coated the possibilities are endless at pinballplating.com [Music] your pinball machine deserves the best at comet pinball you'll find the best variety of led products with the best quality leds and most importantly at the best price your collection is begging for an upgrade order yours now at cometpinball.com check out pin graphics for the latest and greatest in pinball enhancements power blades blade skins pin blades and even more visit pin graphics.com now to see what's available for your pinball machine number two numbers don't lie no i get behind this too and i want it i know you want this game but it is so overrated yep it's show time it's adam's family the second most overrated pinball machine of all time is adam's family ah it's cool this is the nail on the whole game if there's a list of overrated pinball machines this should fall into oh god yeah and i wanted to i want to own this game it's a fun game it's a fun game but again you know how we go back and we talked about before about how you know how i know that this pin is very underrated is because people keep it in their collection people tout this game and when they own it and they have it they love it adam's family is the opposite everyone that i've ever talked to it owns an adams family says yeah really liked it but well everybody if you're a pinball person left early yeah if you're a pinball person it's like twilight zone you gotta own it at least once yes and when you're playing that one game that is fun in adam's family nothing comes close to it no but when that game is over and you see the wagon and once that's over yeah you don't want to play it again no it's very short-lived and magnets are cool i like the ball diverter i like the thing i like that there's modes in it i like to start there's so much to like greg but theme's fantastic once you get through the tour the mansion yep you don't need to tour it anymore and that's what i've heard from everybody and that's the only thing keeps me from buying is i don't want to spend that much money and i don't want to lug it to the basement and then pull it out in three weeks because i'm done it's really like the film you go back and watch that film it's a damn good film it's a fun film but once you see it you're like yeah i'd go another 10 years without saying i'm not i'm not watching it again next week because it was so not worth the money though and your most overrated overrated pinball machine the number one of all time now this is gonna make all the competitive players very angry very very angry it's a stern electronics game it's one that goes for so damn much money it is one of the ugliest pinball machines that i've ever seen it's all green and it's quicksilver oh puke an all green play field i can't do it i i don't i'll never understand quicksilver i'll never end stargazer okay i get it you got three success i get it even see which to a certain degree they perfected with beetles yeah but man with silver quicksilver needs a lot of work no doesn't do anything for me i don't even care about the rules the rules are fine i get it nope nope if you're gonna spend that much for that expensive turd yeah buy seven meteors yeah yeah that game and the placement of that center bank in a sweep of i don't give a so it was a lot of things but what right when you put it in the in the middle of the play field like that that game is just not worth it this is not so ugly oh the side cabinet sucks the bad glass service no no it's just it and like you said tournament players it's fine people where did people even come up with loving that game so much i don't know i know a lot of my favorite the names that are independent of pinball they're like i hate you zack and everything straight down the middle stands for but but you can't say that it's not himself that thing is yeah look at it as a whole when people talk about i wonder if stern is ever going to redo like they did see wish to beatles i want them to redo and quicksilver quicksilver i'm like no don't ruin a good theme on that turd oh please don't hate that game it makes me scared when the rumor though for a little bit that that's what um um yeah i know which one that one was gonna be was a quick silver rethink and i was like don't ruin led zeppelin no that's what i thought i could even do a stargazer stargazers stargazers you get triple spinners you've got the weird slings with the cups in them that shoot yeah but it's not fetching quicksilver price and it's not oh the quicksilver is yeah adam's family quicksilver so a quick recap on your top 10 most overrated pinball machines of all time number one quicksilver number two adams family number three big bang bar number four spirit number five elvira and the party monsters number six nice try jazz music batman 66 number seven white water what are you smoking number eight safe cracker pat lawler my bad number nine another pat lawler family guy or shrek take your pick and number 10 kingpin i wouldn't try to remake that circus maximus cut your losses trying to make the pinball starters stop selling it's ugly too yeah just not good what do they need to do between now and next time maybe if you want a a better taste in your mouth go watch our most underrated pinball machines get you fired up but in a good way yeah or watch one of our reviews or our christmas special or hell or recap into the 2020 year thanks for the continued support and everything you do for straight down the middle uh we love you we love our friends out there um and all the support give us your thoughts yeah in the comment section below are we nutty are we right are we on to something adam's family collector nobody should argue adam's family people keep their abs family because they feel bad they're like i know it's a great game i'm like oh the way it looks play it bro yeah i don't really know i like the magnets your mansion got where you got weird see you later [Music]