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Expo 2021 saw Cactus Canyon remake debut and Legends of Valhalla announcement amid pricing and production transparency concerns.
Cactus Canyon LE is priced at $9,249.99, which does not include the custom rule set code by Lyman Sheets that was publicly promised
high confidence · Direct review of Chicago Gaming's website and pricing structure discussed in detail
Legends of Valhalla was initially advertised as limited to 300 deluxe units but was increased to 500 units after 24 hours due to demand
high confidence · Direct quotes from American Pinball's Facebook statement and press releases cited by name
The host predicts the separate Cactus Canyon DLC code will cost over $1,000, possibly up to several thousand dollars
medium confidence · Host speculation based on industry pricing patterns and the prominence given to the code in marketing
Legends of Valhalla experienced flipper power/responsiveness issues at Expo, described as 'very underpowered' and 'soggy'
medium confidence · Multiple reports from Expo attendees relayed by host; noted as early-show condition but consistent across models
Cactus Canyon is a reimagining rather than a shot-for-shot remake due to code updates, new sculptures, and playfield layout changes like the return trail on the train track
high confidence · Host detailed comparison of original vs. CGC version features based on promotional materials and gameplay knowledge
The pinball collector market has dramatically changed with buyers purchasing 15+ new machines in the past year due to pandemic lockdowns and increased disposable income
medium confidence · Host reports conversations with multiple collectors and anecdotal examples; one buyer purchased 27 new in-box machines
Stern Elvira 40th Anniversary units sold at $33,000 MSRP with only 199 units produced
high confidence · Host states 'I do have confirmed' regarding pricing and production numbers
Original Cactus Canyon code was never fully fleshed out, resulting in a game that can be completed in 1-2 balls by skilled players
“I think at best this is a B, possibly even a C tier title.”
Host @ ~10:00 — Direct evaluation of Cactus Canyon's gameplay quality relative to other CGC remakes
“Good on you if you're able to find one at MSRP. You've basically hit the mini lotto.”
Host @ ~18:30 — Commentary on secondary market markups and scarcity-driven pricing
“Our intent was never to limit the number of games. We underestimated the demand for an unlicensed title from a new game designer.”
American Pinball (quoted from Facebook statement) @ ~35:00 — Contradicts their initial press release limiting production to 300 units
“You're automatically creating scarcity. You're automatically creating FOMO and doing that and then automatically saying, okay, we succeeded in our FOMO, even though that wasn't even our intention.”
Host @ ~42:00 — Host's criticism of American Pinball's conflicting messaging strategy
“I find it very interesting that the choice has been made to keep this code separate from the actual units.”
Host @ ~27:00 — Questions the business logic of unbundling promised DLC code from base game pricing
“The dynamics have changed dramatically to where no longer 500 LEs, which is pretty much a guaranteed sellout at this point.”
Host @ ~29:00 — Market analysis indicating LE production could potentially increase without demand issues
“The game would probably be fun to shoot, but the flippers prevented it from being fun to shoot for them.”
Host (reporting Expo attendee feedback) @ ~48:00 — Summarizes primary gameplay complaint about Legends of Valhalla mechanical performance
business_signal: American Pinball's contradictory messaging about Legends of Valhalla production limits creates ethical concerns; initially advertised as 300-unit limit, then increased to 500 units while claiming limitation was never the intent
high · Direct comparison of press releases showing '300 deluxe editions, limited' vs. later Facebook statement 'intent was never to limit the number of games'
community_signal: Host emphasizes podcast's primary purpose as community hobby and engagement vehicle rather than professional monetization; expresses desire for listener interaction despite personal challenges
high · Host: 'I do this because it's fun, and I do this because I enjoy chatting with you guys, the listeners out there'
sentiment_shift: Mixed reception for Legends of Valhalla reported from Expo; majority of players found layout promising but rule set incomplete; flipper issues overshadowed gameplay potential for many attendees
medium · Host: 'the majority of people thought the rule set had some promise but wasn't quite there. I heard that a lot from people'
design_philosophy: Chicago Gaming's Cactus Canyon positioned as 'reimagining' rather than pure remake due to code updates, new sculptures, and playfield modifications (train track return trail) suggesting evolution beyond shot-for-shot reproduction
high · Host: 'they're updating the code, they're adding the DLC code...I would almost call this game a reimagining of the game because they're updating the code'
market_signal: Distributor allocation strategy observed where early allocations at MSRP sold instantly, triggering secondary distributor premium pricing cascade; creates artificial scarcity and price elevation across dealer network
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high confidence · Host's direct experience playing original Cactus Canyon on location at Cactus Jacks in Oklahoma City over 3-4 years
medium · Host: 'if their allotment's gone, guess what happens with the next dealer and distributor? Hey, they're here. Buyers are still around. Then their allotment's gone. Then guess what happens then? Even higher prices'
market_signal: Dramatic shift in pinball collector market with pandemic-driven demand spike; buyers with deep pockets purchasing 15+ machines annually; secondary market markups of $1,200-$2,000+ over MSRP observed
high · Host reports conversations with collectors buying 15+ new machines in past year, one with 27 purchases; secondary market pricing discussed extensively
community_signal: Host cancelled Expo attendance due to significant personal/family health crises (aunt's death, mother hospitalized); represents disruption to content creation and community participation
high · Host detailed personal circumstances: 'right before the super series, I had an aunt pass away' and 'my own mother...has been in and out of the hospital'
market_signal: Host expresses concern about industry-wide pricing unsustainability; Cactus Canyon LE at $9,249.99 plus separate code cost exemplifies potential price ceiling issues; questions what this means for pinball's future
medium · Host: 'For me it is a hard pill to swallow' regarding the pricing structure and speculates code could exceed $1,000
market_signal: Cactus Canyon SE priced at $7,999.99 and LE at $9,249.99 with very small gap; host suggests SE pricing is intentionally high to push buyers toward LE despite DLC code not being included
high · Direct quote: 'I think they're going to get it off the line. I think they're going to get people to really gear towards that LE.'
product_strategy: Cactus Canyon DLC code pricing and availability not disclosed at launch; code promised in marketing but not bundled with machines, suggesting supply chain or licensing complexity
medium · Host notes: 'the LE does not come with the custom code that we've all heard about from Lyman Sheets' and questions the business logic of unbundling promised content
product_concern: Multiple reports from Expo attendees indicate Legends of Valhalla flipper power issues described as 'underpowered' and 'soggy' across all models, affecting gameplay enjoyment despite favorable layout feedback
medium · Host: 'the reports that I was getting back from multiple people is that the game would probably be fun to shoot, but the flippers prevented it from being fun to shoot'
business_signal: Host identifies LE production expansion strategy across industry; notes that Stern could potentially increase LE production from 500 to 1,000 units with continued sell-through at MSRP or higher in current market conditions
medium · Host: 'I personally think if Stern even went up to 1,000 LEs, I think at this point in time, they would most likely sell out'