SDTM Episode 40: This Or That? (JJP POTC or Dialed In!)

Straight Down the Middle·video·33m 52s·analyzed·Nov 8, 2017

Analysis

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TL;DR

SDTM hosts debate Pirates of the Caribbean vs. Dialed In! and other pinball machine matchups.

Summary

Zach Sharp and Greg from Straight Down the Middle conduct a "This or That" pinball comparison show, fielding viewer submissions about game choices. Major discussions include Jersey Jack Pinball's Pirates of the Caribbean vs. Dialed In!, F-14 Tomcat vs. Black Knight 2014, and various Stern Pro vs. Premium Edition comparisons across multiple titles. The hosts struggle most with the POTC vs. Dialed In! choice, citing POTC's magical theme appeal despite only 20% code completion, while praising Dialed In!'s complete code and superior shooter mechanics.

Key Claims

Pirates of the Caribbean has only 20% code complete
high confidence · Greg and Zach discussing POTC unveiling; Greg explicitly states '20% code' as reason for premature comparison
Dialed In! has complete, terrific code and shoots better than most pinball machines
high confidence · Zach Sharp: 'the code is complete, the code is terrific, it shoots better than most pins I've ever probably played'
Pirates of the Caribbean has a magical quality that elevates the experience despite theme not directly matching the films
high confidence · Greg: 'There's no way that we were gonna... It's like when you watch a Disney movie versus another movie, you can tell it's a Disney movie. It has like a magic to it'
Stern Pro versions of games look noticeably worse than Premium Edition despite same playfield
medium confidence · Discussion of Star Wars: Zach says 'The Stern Pro looks awful. It looks awful. There's just not enough' difference cosmetically but huge visual gap
Stern Pro machines shoot better than Premium Edition despite visual differences
medium confidence · Zach: 'I still think that Stern Pro does shoot better for whatever reason' and prefers Pro models for shooting mechanics

Notable Quotes

“There's no way that we were gonna... It's like when you watch a Disney movie versus another movie, you can tell it's a Disney movie. It has like a magic to it.”
Greg@ 3:11 — Explaining the intangible appeal of Pirates of the Caribbean despite incomplete code
“the code is complete, the code is terrific, it shoots better than most pins I've ever probably played”
Zach Sharp@ 5:08 — High praise for Dialed In! mechanics and code quality
“I truly don't know which one to pick. I can't stop the recording. Like, I truly don't know which one to pick.”
Zach Sharp@ 4:58 — Hosts admit they cannot decisively choose between POTC and Dialed In!, showing genuine difficulty
“The Stern Pro looks awful. It looks awful. There's just not enough.”
Zach Sharp@ 13:11 — Direct criticism of Star Wars Pro edition aesthetics vs Premium
“I prefer a theme that I don't hate more than an unlicensed theme that I'm neutral to”
Greg@ 5:32 — Expressing preference for licensed IP despite theme execution concerns

Entities

Zach SharppersonGregperson Jersey Jack PinballcompanyStern PinballcompanyPirates of the CaribbeangameDialed In!gameStar Warsgame F-14 Tomcatgame

Signals

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event_signal: Pinball Expo mentioned as recent event where hosts evaluated games and encountered manufacturers
medium · Zach: 'I've been thinking about it ever since we left Pinball Expo' and reference to seeing George Gomez at the event
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community_signal: High engagement from international community members (Jacob from Denmark) requesting specific product guidance
medium · Jacob's detailed request: 'Greg, give me a rundown of your choices between Stern Pro and Premium Edition' showing specific purchasing consideration
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design_philosophy: Batman 66 criticized for poor art/design choices by George Gomez; hosts make negative references to game design decisions
medium · Zach: 'The Hobbit... I really like that special edition with the gold'; criticism of Batman 66 frame/top design; 'George. Oh. I still like the way it shoots... Was George giving you the eye?'
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design_philosophy: Pirates of the Caribbean designed to have magical, elevated appeal despite not directly matching film characters/narrative
high · Greg: 'It's like when you watch a Disney movie versus another movie, you can tell it's a Disney movie. It has like a magic to it'; discusses how theme elevates mechanics but isn't specifically Jack Sparrow focused
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market_signal: Premium/LE pricing premiums questioned across multiple Stern games; hosts debate value proposition
medium · Jacob's question about Pro vs. Premium choices; hosts repeatedly state Premium not worth price jump despite feature additions

Topics

Game comparison methodologyprimaryJersey Jack Pinball game quality and designprimaryStern Pro vs. Premium Edition differentialsprimaryCode completion and game balanceprimaryLicensed IP theme appeal in pinballsecondaryShooter mechanics and playfield designsecondaryLimited Edition vs. Standard Edition valuesecondaryCommunity feedback integrationmentioned

Sentiment

mixed(0.55)— Hosts are enthusiastic and positive about pinball generally, but experience genuine difficulty choosing between POTC and Dialed In!, indicating both have merit. Criticism present regarding Stern Pro aesthetics and some theme implementations (Batman 66, Spider-Man Vault), but balanced with praise for shooting mechanics and code quality. Ending seasonal segment (Halloween vs. Christmas) is lighthearted and positive.

Transcript

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show what are we doing this week Greg you don't even know because at this point I've thrown all kinds of ideas at you what video are we even recording right now let's see if he gets it ready ready [Music] this or that nice job buddy it someone figured out we're gonna do this or that you love this thing I do not this one the clearly clearly rewind it and watch his face those years are just a churning upstairs there so we're gonna do this or that last month you guys did an excellent job submitting some requests as to this machine or those machines or that machine that's a lot of people asking about the new pie room they are how do we start off with that you want to start off strong stir up stir let's start off strong I've kind of created we've heard this from so many people as Jersey Jack came out with dialed in last year yes and they came out with Pirates of the Caribbean they just unveiled it only 20% or so code so this is a bit premature but that's Greg's new middle name so this are that great Jersey Jack Pirates of the Caribbean or Jersey Jack dialed and I I don't know if I can answer it Allah can answer what are you going I'm gonna buy pirates Wow yeah with 20% code with time for Cinco de cuz it's still fun to shoot like a recipe is like the fun factor on that is so elevated that it's not on doll then the fun factor on there is fun factor about it okay but it is it's still a strategic shooter okay and I'm a pirate you could make that too obviously because you're going through your modes but but pirates are something that's just so special about it there's no way that we were thousand it's like when you watch a Disney movie versus another movie you can tell it's a Disney movie it has like a magic to it point it it's like the Magic Kingdom so you're saying this pinball machine has magic dance magic what does it do not feel there I felt it yeah okay I can't explain it you know what this is I think the first this or that that I am truly stumped because I've been thinking about I don't know which way to pick well I thought about it ever since we left Expo we analyze dialed in is again I think gonna go down as one of the best games okay but I think that the thing that Pirates has going for I think that I'm also expecting a decent cut I don't think there's no way to not be about exactly Steve Jobs exactly but I think that that magical Ness the theme the theme is what's the theme is weird because I'm gonna say that the theme elevates it but the theme a female the thesis I think it elevates in effect but it's not the theme of Pirates of the Caribbean like it's not it's not the the Jack scarus game it is more of a parsing you don't you don't necessarily think of Jack Sparrow you don't think of the movies necessarily in that character because there are so many characters and all those characters the Bosa or whatever and all those like there are some really fantastic characters throughout those those films so getting to play is all those you've got really unique cool characters yeah yeah that you have up there that you would be hard to come up with on your own so it does feel it doesn't really feel like the movies necessarily it just feels like a really good pirate pinball machine and it elevates it for I appreciate you uh delaying here because I don't know what to think what am I gonna do I can't stop the recording like I truly don't know which one to pick I can I can see where a lot of people would have that but I'm stumped because there's no way that I can turn my back on dialed in because the code is complete the code is terrific it shoots better than most pins I've ever probably it's a better shooter in doesn't take itself seriously it's a better shooter than pirates I wouldn't give you that but there is just that magical next with the beauty of it that makes me wanna have it in my house I do like it having a theme pirates over not having a theme even if it is parts of the Caribbean I prefer a theme that I don't hate more than an unlicensed theme that I'm neutral to if that makes it yeah I agree and that's what kind of pushes it over the the top for me I guess a ballad is a better shooter dialed in is probably you guys honestly I'm not I don't think I'm gonna pick I'm bitching out here great but I can't I don't think I can pick a second job like this it actually makes me nervous he hasn't had like three weeks to think about let's move on I don't I'm sorry guys I don't I don't know I don't know all right Sammy em triple three thanks for submitting your this or that Sammy said f-14 Tomcat or what do you mean but I'm not gonna give an answer that I cannot back up [ __ ] I gotta deal with all the time all right so my man Sammy said if I'm gonna write you my own hate mail this is Zach right it's just being a dick now how do they disable it I just thought she was just not like paying attention knives I didn't think she gave to [ __ ] that we were you don't buy a pinball machine is it a recording this is pretty good is this a recording this is fantastic alright sorry she's okay back to the real stuff okay f-14 Tomcat or Black Knight 2014 Tomcat why I like the speed of it I just keep my eyes I just can't get in the Black Knight okay I like that 14 man it is so quick what's there to do on there 14 shoot speed okay I'm gonna go I'll give that to you I'll give it to you sprite better shooter I'm gonna go old black knight 2000 because it's pretty because I like that this prettier I like the stupid funky music better that people like that it's okay I'll make horrible music like it's so stupid and horrible that I liked it and I can't get enough of that drop date up on the upper play field that you can shoot a lot of balls oh yeah that's okay I don't like the lower portion because it's a son of a [ __ ] to play yeah that's weird like that's why I don't really like it I think a lot of people are gonna go with you I mean that games got a big following it's beautiful but I like it 14 I like something fast i like i like the music with it if it's a they're always trashed though every time you find one for sale they're trash the inserts is different I do like the call-outs on that 14 yeah I like it all man will you get those beacons to go I like stuff when it's gonna start Sam yeah that's a good one man that's it is a really good all right so our whole amusement services America I believe a SOA one of our biggest supporters yes love a guy he said this is another true thee these are good ones spider-man vault or the simpsons pinball party spider-man ball no whoa whoa I don't know spider-man is it impulsive I cannot get into Simpsons okay I'm gonna go The Simpsons I knew that look I don't hate spider-man it's terrible we're sitting here today spider-man is a fantastic machine looks not what you told me on the phone I just don't like it I don't get into it it's not fun to me it doesn't it does nothing for me I'll go Simpsons it's deeper believers called it a fun machine it does nothing for me it's fun it's a fun machine for most 95% of people it's a fun machine have you ever went up to a machine you're all exactly tell you the pinball machine have you ever went up to machine crate and played it and said this is a terrific machine but it's not for me no that's what I do so that spider-man fault for me I'll go Simpsons because there's more to do it actually was kind of boring you get that you feeling hear what you're saying it's kind of boring I don't think house water man is repetitive as spider-man feels is still the smoothness of the rants the flow it's still that's a convenient argues it doesn't have the depth of Simpsons okay but I think it's an all-around more fun game I'm not arguing against that I'm arguing against everything else about it listen what do you like better do you like spider-man theme or Simpsons theme better I like spider-man thing better but I think since I'm a Simpsons is such a pretty game that's what grabs me I think it's meat look see I don't like the art I think the art is washed out oh yeah it's made it look like that though I don't mind now I'm so excited already everything in it give me uh give me some Keith jobs okay Jacob I think it's like like Jacob why do I do he's our boy from Denmark yes he's a huge support yes he's a big fan we love the hell out of the guy so we're gonna do something a little task worthy here a little a little hard working which you do not like you do not like doing he wants to know he says that Greg give me a rundown of your choices between Pro premium and LD on some of these machines he's having a hard time because he's looking for a machine so really quickly we're gonna do that you ready yeah Pirates of the Caribbean the new oh the new and I will II I would you have to go well I'd go with Ellie I would like the collectors but I think for the the price jump from Ellie no collectors definitely not worth it I do think the Ellie above the standard to get the extra little plans at all different things yeah yeah promoter powder it actually adds up if you were to tally those things up at the molded yeah it actually adds up to spinning pop to the price difference I feel starlight Zack you're totally right now all right Ellie thousand Ellie Jesse Jack just go well yeah pygar Ellie's the bright model for the standard Star Wars oh I'll go premium not for the price difference I'll go premium the pro the pro looks awful it looks awful there's just not enough you wouldn't think that that looks wise that there would be that big of a difference between premium and pro considering that there's just the hydros but there's a huge difference it looks but not for the price I'm still going pro Ellie's my favorite model in Star Wars but the money there is nothing No I feel bad even saying the premium but the reason I do is because you want to pull something out of that damn game and if you can pull something out of it it's that Hyperloop yeah this fog isn't me if you're really gonna spend money on Star Wars that I'm not sitting on grand on attack from Mars remake well I really like that topper I think go Ellie not much more at the top but that's not going to be remade yeah well hell I get Aerosmith bro oh good I don't like that a play field I like it for this one yeah GoPro that means 66 all right let's move on The Hobbit oh okay you know what by Padme in 66 pictures of the frame to York that's what you're buying does that's the only good thing in that game Oh Georgie's not gonna like me after that George oh I still like the way it shoes I saw you looking at me at Expo was George giving you the eye he wasn't great he didn't know who in that hell you were he was looking at me to see if the [ __ ] was with me he's probably like that's a son of a [ __ ] that sends me all those headshots and he's done please sighs Lee sighs all right so Batman 66 go premium is fun yeah premium over the Le or SLE The Hobbit I've never seen a standard Hobbit unless you release items you're only up the only reason to get a standard is if you're in limbo between standard or no jjp that's when you go standard yeah I guess so um so a hobbit for me I like to smile nice man with that special edition with the gold it doesn't matter the side art I really like that ghostbusters make a pro look sick listen I don't think we're crazy now on this is the premium ism it's a it's a prettier game it's neat but again it's got a little toys it's good cool toys they are nice but I crave the pro I still think that Stern prose does shoot better for whatever reason and I think that you know they don't look as good but you can make them look pretty damn good yeah exactly like even Walking Dead you need to make it look a little better yeah in everything but they just shoot better and that's what I like about about jjp that I wish thern would would go with this like I think they all should shoot the same uh Game of Thrones premium for me premium might go pretty much that's my one stir that I will not go from I don't you I don't like the lows of people like their pro day and stuff I like in the pro I still think shoots a little smoother but I do actually like the premium with the play field understand I like that not agree with you and I think it's better little you do up there alright kiss tier us I'll go Ellie on this one really yeah I think I will I think it's a beautiful machine Ellie is just so especially if you guys are guys they're all nice-looking Ellie's where to go uh medieval madness remaking give me a standard yeah I'm good with this team it's not like we're attacked from ours will loosen now in the extended display yeah I'm fine with that I'll upgrade the we love like we do like yeah Walking Dead bra premium Star Trek Oh Ellie honestly if I had the money I'd buy value and would you would you spend $1000 if I had the money yes in my shape that I'm in but if I buy without a thousand dollar machine oh if I was gonna buy a stern eight thousand dollar machine though that'd be Metallica Pro x-men le Magneto GoPro I'd like that le magneto but I heard that the night crawlers getting away night crawlers are cool the ramps cool I like all that stuff ac/dc couple more you gotta go premium it's a play to expose yeah you don't want the thrill on that believe me and then trunk Brody yelled Stephanie but Jacob thanks buddy look good hope it helped hello all right rizz it's our other brother ah brother from another mother R is two three three six comments on everything so do you think that when Rays picked out a screen name do you think there was two thousand three hundred and thirty five other Riza's there could be and he just got screwed with the two three three six yeah you'd be surprised okay he says this again one haunted house or black hole haunted house has a lot of maintenance issues so the black hole it's very true I like the look of haunted house black hole might play a little better I think black hole I think black trouble probably deemed a better game ultimately yeah I'd take black hole black holes probably a bit pretty yeah we got a really nice little haunted house I'd say probably haunted house just for the theme itself but yeah I'd have to go black hole for overall I'd go haunted house I just I love the upper plate filled the lower plate is all really the bag glass I like the theme I like it all right Chris Mayer another tough one road show or Popeye I know what you're gonna go with the road Jim this pulls at my heartstrings because these are two pins that don't get a lot of lovin that I give a lot of 11 to Popeyes neat but I don't understand your obsession because it's he just likes big muscles [Laughter] I'm gonna go Papa Roach shows a better game yeah Roadshow may be more fun to play but I can understand your Popeye is just something in your heart it's just something there's there's so many different tasks to do if I really like you know like that caged animals then I think it's a beautiful beautiful game all right Trey our boy Trey is a tracer Trey dress tricksters name wait I think it's spot try to shoot us a message make so we know one I gotta need to call all these people on the phone be like you takin a bribe for cleanup pronouncing I need to know your name okay Trey okay he says Jersey Jack's Pirates of the Caribbean or Star Trek le and Lord of the Rings whoa Star Trek le and Lord of the Rings or Jersey Jack's pirate oh man you have to go Star Trek and Lord of the Rings easy why is it so easy this is to really good machines so the batteries is good the value there is a little bit more on the two machines it is Star Trek what star dragon a used market Hey Lord of the Rings will say 55 that's top team to five verses 12 a few verses a 9 5 we're not doing collection that but I'll say this how about this Jersey Jack's Pirates of the Caribbean Plus to agreement or the other two I'd rather have the two machines spend the two grand that's what I'm saying Lord of the Rings just fantastic and so is I mean that that le sea star trek's came to hold for me though it'll get old but it's just beautiful that doesn't mean a little war the rings were that's what throws me try that's what throws me because I love oh yeah yeah I wouldn't take that if money wasn't an object man that's it so we see this it's never I'm gonna go I don't know I'd almost made me save the money and be it one because I'm talking about downgrading now but for our yeah get all my crops out here I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna get this Star Trek Ellie the Lord of the Rings I'm gonna sell the Star Trek wait six months then buy the jersey Jack Pirates of the Caribbean and the Lord of the Rings that's what I'm gonna do this or that or whatever that [ __ ] is yes the thing is the thing is is that almost doing this is where I would get dressed like I would almost save up another thousand bucks mm-hmm kick the the Star Trek le to the curb and get a pirates into Lord of the Rings and not even fool with Star Trek the Star Trek just even though it's great yeah even though it's great yeah just get you another grand I don't know it's not as easy as that is done you know but that's what I would drive let's do this Lord of the Rings or Star Trek Pro for Jersey Jack's Pirates of the Caribbean now in that situation I'm gonna go pirates because right now it's a new hot thing I agree and that's why I changed six nice and smooth exactly it's new and I really want to play it and I love it I love the looks I'd go with it Jeremy Roemer doll that's there good girl Thanksgivings coming up okay I can see you just album a brush hey turkey hunt yeah well just senators there are smart birds and they're not there they see color so you have to you can't wear any worms like deer huntin and you gotta sit there still cuz the little bastards eyeball you know and you're just sitting there you're just waiting for it as still as you can be like it's not like deer hunt there anything you need to so cuz I would know waiting for it so what's not like deer huh I'm like oh yeah that's not a big hunter but I've hunted clearly yeah I don't really like kill things like it's not my cup of tea separate turkeys well I mean you know they're ugly bastard Oh Jeremy Robert oh I don't know why that woman okay how did all this happen I don't know attack from Mars remake let's call it these DSE attack from mars remake SC or Congo dr. Hewett Space Station not a big hoof in not a big goofy know how cannot know now the big Space Station I'm not a big space I do like Space Station but I'm not a big fan I like a new like Congo I do too so we're looking at Congo in cash or attack from Mars remake I'm going Congo I'll sell those other two I'd go Congo in cash yeah I would I pack for Mars is great beautiful it's a classic it belongs in the Tintin collection but if we had to stick to it you had to go those three attacked more I'd still go attack from Mars I wouldn't want those other two pins really I feel like there'd be a waste of money to me fair enough I'm with you on that yeah all right Skippy Church give a name like that reach out to us let us know where Skippy Church wins what everybody did tell us about their name I love that you know does mine so boring okay well go ahead I laid it up for you that's okay that's because you're booing 2/3 your billions enough today big enough all right so he says this or that extra balls or no extra balls huh knowing you window what are you going get ball I'd like extra balls with my game yeah I gotta have extra balls yeah you earned them now what I will do the Zach rule is cut them off for three you should never get more out you guys know this for me you should never give it more extra balls and you get right labels yeah I mean I guess I'm cuttin through I'm having if you're good enough to earn them I don't say those games you can just exploit the hell up it is very poor three that's all you get that way you know I mean I just do factory default all right and to end our show Greg with straight down the middle this or that this or that great Halloween or Christmas oh my god this is one that we actually had talked about before this because it just got this season and I said to you who in the right mind is gonna pick Halloween over Christmas like come on me and everybody I know like literally every one of my Facebook friends is like um is my favorite all my personal friends in real life not the Facebook world Halloween is my favorite time of the year it's so fun you get to dress up you decorate your house spooky good to have gory stuff it gets us out of work it's fun it is a lot of work but Christmas they're based loving each other there's eggs being thrown there's feelings being hurt there's no spilling through blades in candy not like what's in America it's so fantastic like it is I love Christmas knowing her I enjoy Christmas about as much like I enjoy getting into this I love shopping giving presents to people instead of just giving communion it's just so much fun dressing up in all the scary movies man like it's just the Oh what's the best Halloween movie i mean i how mean honestly like i use not really like it as good we won't drag this on but uh whoa I had learned to her ii heard it all I've learned to respect the first Halloween very much yeah because it was that was yeah it is it was a starter for yeah really ah mr. Christmas over here is gonna tell us about store poor cinnamon horror films that you go argument no that's a minute that's when that whole genre that type of cinematography started oh yeah it was dealing yes talk about now see a rock you over here the cinematography was different everything kind of built yeah I mean I guess I mean like the slasher films yes that's what that was 70s three decades granite trekking but yes I pick out Christmas definitely the food is better the experience is better the Carl Weathers not so much better now but cool frosty but I also like listening to the some freaking I'm such a watch a beetle torn bottle of Beetlejuice gotta watch Beetlejuice watch The Nightmare on Elm Street marathon a Christmas Story Chevy Chase's Lampoon they're all great I mean so that's our show this this err that kind of a Halloween seasonal special it's Halloween already you wait until you see Zach and his turtleneck at Christmas with a scarf throw this eggnog hello guys I'm here to tell you about the three percent of pinball machines I enjoy do you think is three percent its problem no it's not even that high it's probably at least seven to ten percent then I truly there's a one pursuit stop at home I wish I had the money to be a one-percenter I'd have all kinds of pinball machines I'm like a 84 alright check out our Facebook page you guys gotta help us out on that paper we want a boost Facebook checks out on twitch when you stream you don't even know anymore sure Friday start getting screwed because my my it's kind of a busy time of the year through October okay I'm like spring in them fall so kind of screwed me out of my Friday Tuesday but I think I'm gonna go to Tuesday nights and we got tough word on Wednesdays these are streaming and informing always some of the different always off and on late man okay so the Ghostbuster strong come late at night it if you're an ass - rat - yeah all right so check me out late night with Zack early morning with Greg Greg's I've been sleeping for hours by the time I stream sure this is no lie yeah get your stream in the morning it else they only check out maybe you check out our YouTube page watch these other YouTube videos send us a message we like hanging out and talking to people about pinball who tell us what you want to see what you don't like really responsive are we you are I tried to but you always beat me to it that's because I live in this [ __ ] I love it alright thanks guys check out next week [Music] that's like Kiyomi riding that dolphin I miss it do you you get a tattoo of camo rather try to be a cool tattoo literally cuz you'd be like you know what this weird is fun but I can read what would what Keanu Reeves though can't be matrix it can be speed I want to not be speed I want know cuz it caches head this bar that goes below 30 it's kind of hard to it like I come on like John wick like smooth Keano in a suit with a dolphin that's kind of cool not billing Ted you killed my dolphin okay bro do you have any white Christian duty bullets with their smooth real hair cuts and they're nice clean shaven face love the Christmas start wrapping when I drink alive how much that's horrible yeah good southern white wrap you know I'll mix it up a little bit is your flow intense uh you know I call it out of parties people really want to hear it really I don't think it's for to make funny yeah I don't think it's like good nature the flow is strong with this one and they say open it up with something attention I'm sorry something that's okay cuz I was thinking I would have you get a Point Break then he could be like surfing next to the dog but that's almost fits to dolphin jumping over his head wave that almost fits too well though yeah all kinds of people big Halloween everybody I know Halloween's their favorite holiday no one I know hello mean what's all I going to the costume store right and I feel like I have to have a tetanus shot after leaving that place or a rabies shot yourself that Halloween brings out some folk Greg it really does you don't like Halloween I mean you won't ride the subway you know you name it half of America American it is true if you went to those Halloween stores I am stuck in white suburban Hill oh my god I just want to be like you know what maybe lay off the $80 mask here's the thought maybe just go for the $5 makeup do it up you're so there would be no Halloween if there was it for wrong decisions