Journalist Tool

Kineticist

  • HDashboard
  • IItems
  • ↓Ingest
  • SSources
  • KBeats
  • BBriefs
  • RIntel
  • QSearch
  • NName Review
  • +Health

v0.1.0

← Back to items

#99 WHO dunnit - The Classic Pinball Podcast

The Classic Pinball Podcast·podcast_episode·3h 35m·analyzed·Jan 31, 2023
View original
Export .md

Analysis

claude-haiku-4-5-20251001 · $0.029

TL;DR

Deep dive into Whodunit restoration mods and a classic pinball tournament.

Summary

George and Dr. Dave discuss the restoration and customization of a 1995 Williams Whodunit pinball machine owned by their 91-year-old friend Tony. Dr. Dave details extensive modifications including a die-cast taxi model with LED lighting, roulette wheel, mirror blades, and aesthetic improvements. The conversation covers Dwight Sullivan's design legacy, the Midnight Madness mode concept, and Dr. Dave's recently held classic pinball tournament featuring rare early machines.

Key Claims

  • Whodunit was produced in September 1995 with only 2,400 units made

    high confidence · Dr. Dave stated '2,400 units' and 'September of 95'

  • Whodunit typically sells for $5,000 to $7,500 depending on condition

    high confidence · Dr. Dave: 'typically anywhere from $5,000 to $7,500'

  • Dwight Sullivan originated the Midnight Madness mode concept and pitched it to other Williams designers

    medium confidence · Dr. Dave speculated: 'Dwight Sullivan's want to develop this concept... he contacted all the other designers... and he wanted to basically all his games at that time frame in the 90s'

  • Taxi is a System 11 game from the late 1980s

    high confidence · Dr. Dave: 'Taxi is a System 11. Okay, Taxi is a late 80s. Taxi is a... Taxi System 11'

  • Whodunit features a working three-wheel slot machine mechanism underneath the playfield

    high confidence · Dr. Dave: 'they actually have a working three-wheel slot machine in the game, underneath the game'

  • Dr. Dave's tournament had 10-11 classic games available to play

    high confidence · Dr. Dave: 'I could set up about 10 or 11 games, all classics, and do a classic tournament'

  • Benny won Dr. Dave's Invitational Classic Pinball Tournament, defeating Jeff Blair in the final on Six Million Dollar Man

    high confidence · George: 'oh Benny oh Benny because I predicted it yes Benny won' and 'That was the final, the Six Million Dollar Man'

  • The AC/DC locomotive set might be a suitable model for Tony's Whodunit

    medium confidence · Dr. Dave mentioned looking at ACDC set: 'Well, that set is like an old-fashioned locomotive set, I think. It's more like a black locomotive, so that would work.'

Notable Quotes

  • “I've done a lot of work to it. A lot of mods I've done to it, too. A lot of cool things that you can't buy.”

    Dr. Dave @ early section — Establishes the extensive customization work done on Tony's Whodunit

  • “It's kind of based on Clue but it's not as deep as like a rule set like like a modern Stern you know like deep deep rule set and so forth”

    Dr. Dave @ game overview section — Characterizes Whodunit's rule complexity relative to modern games

  • “his idea, his brainchild was you're in an arcade and you're playing at midnight at a late night arcade and all the games do this at the exact same time, this big multi-ball madness maniacal thing”

    Dr. Dave @ Midnight Madness discussion — Explains Dwight Sullivan's vision for the Midnight Madness mode across multiple Williams games

  • “I'm the optimization guy.”

    Dr. Dave @ taxi mod discussion — Self-characterization of Dr. Dave's approach to pinball restoration

  • “You're becoming the mod master.”

    George @ mid-conversation — Recognition of Dr. Dave's extensive modification expertise

  • “I handpicked all the cool cats, and no non-cool cats are allowed, just the cool cats.”

    Dr. Dave @ tournament section — Humorous description of tournament participant selection

  • “I'm probably going to lose. I'm not that good a player, but I'd love to be part of this. I'm having a great time, and I don't care if I just throw mate/man at it and lose.”

    Keith (Dr. Dave's friend) @ tournament section — Represents casual/social player mentality vs. competitive focus

  • “I think Benny's an up-and-comer. He's one of the new young bucks. He might be the new Eric Stone. He's got focus.”

    Dr. Dave @ tournament results — Recognition of emerging competitive talent

Entities

GeorgepersonDr. DavepersonTonypersonDwight SullivanpersonJohn PapadiukpersonLinda DealpersonBarry OurslerpersonBennypersonJeff BlairpersonPJperson

Signals

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Extensive custom modifications documented for Whodunit including die-cast taxi model with LED lighting, roulette wheel integration, mirror blades, gooseneck light posts, and sign repairs sourced internationally

    high · Dr. Dave's detailed descriptions of taxi model sourcing from eBay, LED wiring from Evan Designs, mounting hardware from Pinball Life, and plastic parts from Brazil

  • ?

    competitive_signal: Recognition of Benny as emerging competitive player comparable to established champion Eric Stone, with focus and potential for sustained success

    medium · Dr. Dave: 'He might be the new Eric Stone. He's got focus.' Tournament victory and strong final game performance demonstrate competitive skill

  • ?

    event_signal: Dr. Dave's Invitational Classic Pinball Tournament revival after extended hiatus, featuring double-elimination format with 10-11 machines and 12+ players including both regular competitors and casual enthusiasts

    high · Detailed tournament structure discussion, participant list, game roster, and finals results

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Dwight Sullivan's vision for synchronized Midnight Madness mode across arcade games as collaborative industry feature; some designers adopted, others declined

    medium · Dr. Dave's explanation: 'His idea, his brainchild was you're in an arcade and you're playing at midnight... all the games do this at the exact same time' and 'Some people, I think, said yes. A lot of people said, no'

  • ?

    product_concern: Discussion of economic tradeoffs in complex mechanical features like slot machine reels; observation that modern manufacturers unlikely to include such expensive mechanisms today

Transcript

groq_whisper · $0.646

0:30
Haven't changed, had much to say But men are still drinking, that's the great thing They were asking if you were around Are you on where you could be found Told them you were living downtown Telling all the old men crazy I'm living in downtown, I'm living in downtown The boys of Eggtown, boys of Eggtown, boys of Eggtown, boys of Eggtown
1:29
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Classic Pinball Podcast. My name is George, and I'm joined by my co-host, a man who is as good with a snow shovel as he is with a snowblower, Dr. Dave. Hello, Dave. Hello, George. George, you're looking a little bit orange-tinted. Did you get into politics for chance of on sabbatical? Yeah, Donald's my brother.
1:59
In Florida for a while, as people heard in our last episode. And I want to thank everybody. One of our better episodes, and it just goes to show you that if you don't publish content for a month, people have to find things to listen to. And we're going to come to that in a little bit. But, Dave, how are you? I'm doing great, George. While you were having fun in the sun drinking IPAs, carousing our fan base and playing the best pinball the southern states had to offer we porsche flobs up here in the northeast had to make do working at creative tails off restoring and day spine a myriad of pinball titles from all over creation so uh what do you wouldn't newscaster that you gotta write it down george i got a new mic here as you can tell i i can i've never i've never i've never heard of this brand but i heard the results with your test I think a certain someone is going to like the sound of this. Our initials DM? Yes, Dave, I hope you like this. Or the Demolition Man. No, it's not Demolition Man. All right.
3:06
Look, let's talk about the game of this particular podcast. The flavor of the week? Well, I only contacted you, what, two days ago, and basically said, you know, what's on the rotisserie? and you came back with a game, big surprise, I'm not familiar with. I don't think I've ever played this game before. I did a little bit of research in the last two days.
Eric Stone
person
Keithperson
Scottperson
Bettyperson
Stuperson
Bobperson
John Dayperson
Whodunitgame
Six Million Dollar Mangame
Taxigame
Dr. Dave's Invitational Classic Pinball Tournamentevent
Williamscompany
Ballycompany
Pinball Lifecompany
Evan Designscompany

medium · Dr. Dave: 'It doesn't sound like a company would do this today because of the expense of that mech... three stepper motors and the reels and a board'

  • ?

    gameplay_signal: Whodunit features betting/gambling mechanics allowing players to risk accumulated points for doubling opportunity, creating high-variance scoring that would not function well in tournament play

    high · Discussion of risking 500 million points and losing them, and recognition that 'This would not be good in a tournament game' due to luck-based risk-taking

  • ?

    historical_signal: Dwight Sullivan's design timeline: started 1990 with Riverboat Gambler, produced multiple titles including Terminator 2 and Star Trek Next Generation before Whodunit in September 1995

    high · Dr. Dave detailed chronology of Sullivan's games: 'He started in 1990. Riverboat Gambler' through 'Whodunit in September of 95'

  • ?

    collector_signal: Whodunit rarity (2,400 units) commanding $5,000-$7,500 in secondary market; custom-modified examples selling for premium prices reflecting labor and sourcing costs

    high · Dr. Dave: '2,400 units' and 'My game, as it is now, is going to go for a little more than that. Because I've done a lot of work to it'

  • ?

    operational_signal: Use of poker deck cards for random game selection in double-elimination format; consideration of weighted card system to ensure even game distribution across bracket

    high · Dr. Dave's tournament format explanation and discussion of improving card distribution system with George

  • ?

    restoration_signal: Restoration requiring sourcing of replacement plastics from Brazil and specific miniature models from eBay, indicating global parts availability network

    high · Dr. Dave: 'I had to order one from Brazil. He had a spare plastic set for this game from eBay'

  • ?

    community_signal: Tournament attracted both hardcore competitors (Benny, Jeff) and casual/social players (Keith) with different motivations; demonstrates inclusive pinball community engagement

    high · Keith's statement: 'I'm probably going to lose... but I'd love to be part of this. I'm having a great time' contrasts with competitive finals battle

  • ?

    design_innovation: Modern LED lighting techniques applied retrospectively to 1990s machines for improved visibility without altering classic aesthetic; warm LEDs preferred for period games, tactical illumination for darker playfields

    high · Discussion of LED modifications on Whodunit and PowerPlay: 'warm LED underneath the kickers and maybe the rest of the game, regular lighting. At least the kicker area'

    • 3:35
    I got a lot of questions, but why don't you tell us a little bit about the game and kind of set the stage before we go down into the basement and play it and talk a little bit more at length about what you did because I'll be able to see it visually. And I'm looking forward to it. It looks like a pretty fun game. A little bit out of my range, because it sounds like you've got to do a lot of mental processing to play this game. No, not really. It's not as, you know, the beauty of these 1990s DMDs from Williams, Valley, Midway, it's kind of weird how they all kind of got together.
    4:13
    Williams bought Valley, and then they were together. Then Midway took over. I don't know how it all kind of went down. but so basically this game is a lot like the game Clue. It's kind of based on Clue but it's not as deep as like a rule set like a modern stern you know like deep deep rule set and so forth so it's pretty easy to figure out what you're going to do some good comedy in it was 1995 it was built and Linda Deal Dwight Sullivan, Barry Ausler were big parts of the game. Is this one of the earlier games that Dwight Sullivan did? I don't know a lot about his background. I mean, that's almost 28 years ago now.
    5:01
    Let's see. A quick look on their Google Wayback Machine. He started in 1990. Riverboat Gambler. He did Bugs Bunny's Birthday Ball. Oh, that's a beauty. Woof, woof, woof, woof. So he got better. Yeah, Terminator 2 he did. Getaway High Speed 2. Star Trek Next Generation. Great game he did. Well, that's the big collectible, is it not? And the Redheads Roadshow, not a big fan. No Fear, okay. Those all came before this?
    5:24
    Yep, all came before it. And then Whodunit in September of 95. It was about six or seven before this game.
    5:32
    So he had some hits and he had a lot of stinkers. We've never done any of those games, have we? No. We didn't just start your next check, did we? No, we didn't do that. Because I had that here, too. It's a shame we didn't do that one. Yeah. That came out gorgeous. It happens.
    5:51
    So, yeah, a lot of good talent on this one, a lot of good voice work, and a lot of work I did to it, too. So when I found this game, a customer called me and said, Hey, I'm going to move, you know, special deal kind of thing. So I like special deals. I like when I get a nice deal.
    6:12
    So a nice deal on it. Gorgeous shape. Homies Only, pretty much, for part of his life. Oh, you bought this from the customer? I bought this from a different guy. It's going to go to my friend Tony. The 91-year-old. Oh, I thought this was already Tony's game. Oh, we'll come to Tony and what he has in a little bit. Oh, no, no, I totally misunderstood. Oh, yeah, this game I bought for stocks. I get calls once in a while from customers saying, you know, I've got a poor puppy we can't take to our next house. Can you come adopt her up there? Right, because this game, I don't know the popularity of it, but it's only 2,400 units. And I went out and just did some quick research. It looks like it's a $5,000 game or more, depending on condition. But there were a couple of them out for sale out online. Yeah, typically anywhere from $5,000 to $7,500.
    7:09
    My game, as it is now, is going to go for a little more than that. Because I've done a lot of work to it. A lot of mods I've done to it, too. A lot of cool things that you can't buy. And toys, George. Talk about toys. I made some toys. Well, let's talk about that real quick.
    7:27
    When I think of taxi, I don't think of this game. I think of the game Taxi. Right. So the question is, does the game Taxi have a taxi on it? Or do you have to edit? like a mod. It has a plastic... The game Taxi has like a plastic taxi piece of plastic in there with Santa Claus and Gorby and whatever else. So it's not a model? No. It's not a... No. Okay. They only started doing that model stuff in the 90s. Okay. The 80s cut didn't really do that stuff. Oh, this is the 90s. Right, this is the 90s spin. 95. Right. But Taxi was not. Taxi was late 80s. Taxi is a... Oh, I didn't know that either. Taxi is a System 11. Okay, that's why we have you here. There you go. Taxi System 11, Bad Cat System 11. This is Tony's first 1990s game. And 95, it's actually right towards the tail end of when Williams was getting out of the biz.
    8:24
    Another cool thing about this game, and it kind of makes sense, they actually have a working three-wheel slot machine in the game, underneath the game, with a whole thing. I'd actually take those things apart and be a slot machine mechanic and get in there and actually rebuild the motors and so forth. I did that, too, in this game. So that lends the question, was Bally in the slot machine business?
    8:48
    Is this something that would have been used from one of their games, or did they use that as an example and make a smaller mech for this game? Yeah, I think they just used the technology or the brainpower they had to make those and put it in this game, you know, because it's, you know, stepper motors and how it lines up and so forth. But I think definitely this looks like a real slot machine in there. Again, another observation is it doesn't sound like a company would do this today because of the expense of that mech. Would that be accurate? Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah, three stepper motors and the reels and a board to go for each one, a controller board for each one.
    9:34
    So, yeah, there was that there. There's also other toys in the game, too. There was a telephone that would ring and light up and so forth, a black telephone, a 1940s telephone in there. What else did they have in that game? They had some other stuff, too. But I put in a roulette wheel. Okay, so let's focus on those two aspects of the casino. Is there another game out there that uses the slot machine technology, so to speak? Putting up my fingers. is there another game that has a slot machine in it? I know there's another game with a roulette wheel. There's probably multiple games with the roulette wheel. I think Prospector. I think a Williams Prospector from that time, back in the 70s, early 70s. I'm wondering if they ever used the mech again. Well, no, later. No, not the 90s. And the Prospector one is more of a miniature one. This is more almost like full-size box underneath the game that they really utilize this thing. But this game is pretty much, it's like the game Clue with a casino element thrown into it. So almost like you're gambling a little bit. You actually can bet on the, when you throw the ball up in the roulette wheel section, as you're going through the spinner, the spinner will increase your bet that you can do. And you can say, do you want to bet this amount? Do you want to risk it or not risk it? And then, you know, you could bet like, it's almost like half, you got a couple million score or a billion score or whatever, and you could risk like 500 million on it if you wanted to. and then she has to double it. I've done it before and lost $500 million like that, and that kind of sucks, George. That's why I don't do it. You don't like the games that take away points. No, no, and this would not be good in a tournament game. I don't see... It would be a lot of risk-taking, so the excitement would definitely be there. And watching, think about it. Yeah, true. Player one risked it, and he got double points. Oh, right. You're way down, and you've got to chop wood. Well, okay. If you bet the ranch... Yeah, true. If you've got the wrench, you might make a comeback. And then if somebody's throttling everybody else, do you just put the hammer down and say, okay, I can wager X and just blow these guys out and they're never going to come back. But the problem with that is it's not really your flipper skills at that point. It's more like your gambling skills come in. Well, it's got a place. It sounds like a unique game. I'm looking forward to playing it. Unique game. I wanted to get this. This king calls out, hey, take a taxi. Take the taxi. Hail a cab. It says, ride the train. There's a train component, like an elevator railroad train. It's got a taxi component. All these call outs, it says. I said, what's really cool is to get a die-cast metal taxi. I found one online. I found one of these die-cast metal car thing online. And all I really had for a taxi was like a 1970s, you know. Like checker cab from New York City. Yeah, like one of those 60s cabs thing. And it was going to work. It was yellow. And the money was right. It was like, you know, 20, 30 bucks. Like, okay. And then I looked at a place where you can get these little miniature LEDs with wires and all done up and the right voltage. And I researched that. I think Evan Designs is the place that sells these. And I got a kit from him. And then I took the whole cab apart and wired it up. and as I think about it, it's like, you know, this game is more like a 1940s detective dumb shoot kind of game. I'm going to put a 70s cab, modern cab. It doesn't go. It would go in the taxi game Tony has. It would go better for that game. But this game, I've got to look more. I started looking around for a more appropriate taxi, and I found one on eBay for $150. No, too much money for a freaking toy. But then again, for a topper, they're paying $2,000, so I guess it kind of works out. But no. Let's not even go there.
    13:17
    We already did that show. And we are so, we are so, we were early to the party, but that seems so insignificant today. Because I think the highest priced topper was the Star Wars, and people were grousing at 600 bucks. I mean, come on. Yeah, come on. The world has changed. Oh, it's changed, though. Yeah, right. Let's not go there. Better for worse. So, I did some more research on eBay. I found a file one for like around, again, like 30 bucks. a 1957 model cab checker cab, perfect, yellow. It was great. It was in a little display case. So I bought that, took the display case apart, took the cab apart, put the lights in there, one light for each headlight. I put a light inside the cabin, and it lit up great with the GI lighting in the game. And then I had to figure out how to mount it in the game and where to mount it. So I had all this mounting gear I bought from, I think, Pinball Life. I bought a bunch of stuff. I had all this hardware. And I kind of made it all work together and put it right where it's supposed to go. and now it looks great there. And then there's also this little thing called, you're supposed to go on the roof, you're supposed to shoot the middle and go up in this elevator. So you either go up or down the elevator when you go on the roof. And there's a sign that says Tony's Palace, which was broken on the game. So I had to order one from Brazil. He had a spare plastic set for this game from eBay. I had to wait for that and pay some money for that because it's Tony's game. It's kind of the game. Right. The guy's name's Tony, so. Instead of having Tony, it said NY, place because the T.O. was gone. It could be New York Palace, but no. So I got it, put it in, and I had to modify it slightly and then it's like, you know what? I looked online, someone did some cool things. They got some old fashioned gooseneck lighting like you'd have in a cityscape from that time frame. So I actually put those in there. So it looked like a light post? Like an old style light post? Remind me later. I have a story about light posts. Okay. Yeah, good story. So I took these LEDs, they're called bendies or flexies, and you kind of flex them over and you put the little on it. So I did that, and it looks like it's lighting up the sign nice, it lights up the roof nice, so I did that LED thing. Put warm LEDs all around. I also, Tony, Tony... You're becoming the mod master. Yeah, well, especially Tony loves his train set. He's got a huge train set, George. He's got a huge intro train set. I remember you... So he likes all the models. So do you have a train in this thing, too? He wants a train, this thing. He wanted one, but I've been trying to find one for him. Why wouldn't you use one like the... No, no, no, no. Why wouldn't you use one from... Hallmark? No, no, no, no, no. Sounds like... Guns and... Not Guns and Roses. Help me. The other band. ACDC. They got that train. Oh, yeah. I'm... I don't know. I'm just saying. It's already been created. I don't know what it looks like. I don't know how expensive it is, but... That's a good one. I'll have to write that one down. Well, that train is like an old-fashioned locomotive train, I think. It's more like a black locomotive, so that would work. Again, it's an idea.
    16:19
    Again, I don't know what size would look right, and I've got to look at the game. See, I was thinking, like, for the train, if I was going to do this for him, we're already way over budget, which I have to break the bad news to Tony. I hope he doesn't hear it here. Sorry, Tony. I'm going to break the bad news. I kind of blew through. I had to say, oh, it's going to be between this and this price. He goes, oh, no problem. I would say at 91, I'm kind of stealing it, Tony, the buyer of this game, is 91 years old. I'd say tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny Tony Buckup, you know? Yeah. You know? Just, you know. Just look at the clock. Right. I'll say it politely, okay? The shock clock's running out? Oh, yeah.
    17:02
    They'll hit me around for a lot longer. He's a healthy guy. The game show beat the clock comes to mind, but sorry, Tony. Yeah, that's all right. It's going to happen to all of us eventually. We're all going to hit 90 or so. Yeah, that's it. We're all becoming lucky. If we're lucky, we're going to hit 90 or so. I only hope.
    17:18
    So that's a good idea. I'm going to look into the ACDC train thing for him. And, oh, yeah, yeah, I put these mirror blades on there, too, on the side. Boy, you're really becoming domesticated. A color D&D I put in there. Wow. Oh, this thing. And, Tony, can you put those? See, he loves his train set, loves all the little models, and he loves the whole miniature world under glass he has there. That's why I like the pill machines. That's why I said, hey, can you do this? He's always special requests. I kept saying, I want to get done with this thing at some point. I'm spending so much time on this. And doing all these mods takes extra time. I've got to create them. Well, that's kind of the question I have is, have you seen this mod on any other game? I've seen variations of a theme on this mod. I've seen someone else do a cabin, not the one I had, more of a modern cabin. They put it somewhere else. They put it, like, right near the Tony's Palace, hovering over the roof. And I go, that doesn't look good. It looks stupid there. I want to put it right where the taxi was. So people have done it. You just. I made it better. You've refined it. I refined it. Of course you did. Yeah, I had to. I'm the optimization guy. Is there anything else you want to talk about? Because we have. I'm looking at your multi-page list. I have lots of stories of my trip to Florida and back. anything else you want to talk about regarding this game before we get into all that I will say one more thing about his request about lit up posts I lit up the red posts on the kickers he wanted those lit up so I had so it's the LEDs that go underneath with the little tab on it so you can I bought a couple of those I thought of doing that on one of my games and then I was like it looks good it probably looks great It looks good. I think a modern game... Certain games. 90s pins look great with all these mods. When you start going back old school, you want more of a classic. You don't need all that. Right, but you can get, in some cases, it's a darker game. You can get the illumination on the play field by doing that without putting other kinds of lighting mods on. That was my... That's what I was thinking of. Well, I will say on games like that, on a darker game, I say like Xenon. Well, that's... Right, and a Centaur. Right. Things like that. So I will say for something like that, I would put a warm LED underneath the kickers and maybe the rest of the game, regular lighting. At least the kicker area where the flippers are going to be doing the balls coming down and you can see better. I probably do that. I just did it on the PowerPlay. I just did it at a customer's house the other day. It came out great like that. Okay. So I will talk more about one more thing about the theme of the game and how I said I think it's based on clue and finding the suspect and interrogating. and all this other kind of stuff, and chasing the suspect.
    20:00
    Actually, there's a big demo going in the basement. So it has a whole down-in-the-basement thing, George. I saw the elevator and the number of floors in the basement, and I guess the basement mode, I don't even know if that's the right way to talk about it, you get a multi-ball? Is that what you were referring to? Yeah, and there's a whole animation about going in the basement, so it has our little thing on there. And as I'm playing this game It also has a Midnight Madness mode I saw that as well And very few games You know the story behind Midnight Madness with these games? No idea So I think it was Don't you have to hit the flippers before Strike 12 or something? To get the Midnight Madness? No, it just comes on anyway I think Well, really We can talk about it downstairs But I'll show you the first time I can remember looking at IPDB and seeing somebody who actually published a rule set back in 1995. The guy was pretty detailed. I'll talk about it downstairs and who it was and I'll point to that. But yeah, there's all kinds of great information there for somebody like me who doesn't know anything about the game. Kind of gave me a quick overview of what's there. I think Dwight Sullivan's want to develop this concept, the idea of the Midnight Manus mode. and he wanted to basically all his games at that time frame in the 90s that he was making, I think he put into mostly all of them or several titles he did. Who Done is one of them. And his thing was like, and he contacted all the other designers that were designing the Williams games and other titles around his all those years. Hey, can you guys put this in your code that at midnight, as a midnight madness multiball mode, the game goes crazy because his idea, his brainchild was you're in an arcade and you're playing at midnight at a late night arcade and all the games do this at the exact same time, this big multi-ball madness maniacal thing, everybody's doing the same thing at the same time at midnight. So some people, I think, said yes. A lot of people said, no, I don't want that in my game. No, that's your thing, dude. So they didn't. But it is very cool to have the game, when you're playing in the middle of the game, I just did that with my friend PJ the other day. I jimmied the clock so it's right near midnight and we're playing the game. Right in the middle of the game, he's playing. and it went to Midnight Madness. Right in the middle of the game. The ball went dead in Midnight Madness. Speaking about the Midnight Madness mode, what this does is, and it makes sense with the phone, too. The phone in the game is a black phone that looks a lot like Batman's red phone in the Batcave. Is it?
    22:38
    Well, someone had designed this. Someone like Batman66 in this game, Dwight must have. because when you're in Midnight Madness mode, these things come on the screen where it goes thwack, pow, wham. And it has all the sounds of when Batman was going after the henchmen and hitting them and so forth in the big fight scene. It was having a fight scene like from Batman. That's what you're playing in Midnight Madness mode is you are fighting the henchmen in Batman. The black phone in that game, if that game was like red and glowing, it would be fantastic during this mode. If all of a sudden that... Actually, you may want to do that mod too. Hmm. Maybe think about that one. The Crayford Motor, that thing always started glowing red. Or maybe the numbers on the phone glow red. I don't know. But because it's very Batman-esque and very cartoonish. You'll see the cartoons that come up on the DMD. It looks just like the Batman TV show from the 60s. Hmm. Okay. Well, I look forward to it. Do you want to shift gears, so to speak, and go into a bunch of other stuff? Sure.
    23:46
    Okay, let's try to do this chronologically. You had a bunch of people over for a tournament. Without going into great detail and boring our audience, give us the highlight reel of the tournament that I missed. And I'm sorry I missed it, but I was in Virginia, I think, at the time before I went to Florida. And we'll talk about my trip in a little bit. Okay.
    24:16
    So, I decided it's been quite a while since I've had a big tournament over here. I've had my classic league on hiatus for quite a while and kind of disbanded that. and I was busy with my, you know, doing my job and doing my website and doing all that stuff anyway. So, I said, well, you know, I feel like it's time to, and I kept hearing different people, friends of mine saying, it would be great if you started up again because I keep showing different games I've been doing, all my rest rates that I've been doing, I keep kind of teasing them. So, I said, well, I'm thinking about it, I'm thinking about it. So, finally I said, you know, I have a little bit of free time carved out for myself and I could do this, I could set up about 10 or 11 games, all classics, and do a classic tournament. So I said, yeah, I'm going to do a Dr. Dave's Invitational Classic Pinball Tournament.
    25:09
    Let's see how it goes. So I handpicked all the cool cats, and no non-cool cats are allowed, just the cool cats.
    25:20
    Oh, God. Just the cool cats. and a few customers and some podcast fans. Our podcast fans, I had them in there too. So who didn't I know that came? I know PJ was there, Betty was there, Stu was there, you were there, Jeff was there.
    25:40
    Did John come? John Day was invited, but John Day was busy. Okay. Bob. Bob Daddy was there. Did I ever meet Bob? I think so. Yeah, you met Bob. I don't remember. Some people call him Crazy Bob.
    25:55
    Sorry, Bob. I'll meet you in the future. Sorry, Bob. Yeah, he has good taste in IPA. He likes his IPA. He likes his party material. We're going to talk about IPAs in a little while, too. We've got a lot of things to talk about that are sort of pinball related, but not really. Yeah, that's right. You can do offshoots. People like that stuff anyway.
    26:12
    Who else? So what games? Okay. Oh, come on. My friend Keith from, I've known him for like 40 years. He's in Florida all this time. He finally came back up north. and he doesn't really play pinball at all. He'd say, hey, you want to come and say, well, I'm probably going to lose. I'm not that good a player, but I'd love to be part of this. I'm having a great time, and I don't care if I just throw money at it and lose. I'm going to have a good time. Okay. So he made a deposit.
    26:36
    He made a deposit. And his car he showed up in was a brand-new full-electric Mustang. Bright yellow. Bright yellow Mustang electric. Traditional Mustang, not that new SUV they have. No, traditional Mustang. Wow. How was that? I didn't get to try it. I was too busy. I'll take it for a test drive. Gotcha. I'll let you know. So he was here, and he told me, I suck. I'm not that good, but I don't care. I'm just here to have fun. And he's a cool guy. So I had him over.
    27:08
    My friend Scott, friend and customer, who's bought a Firepower for me. He's also going to have me do a restored 9-ball I'm doing for him. Sure. So he was here, too, as well. who else? I've got to say it right. So what games? So here are the games. The games that were available to play are a rare 1977 Valley Blackjack EM.
    27:36
    We made 120 of those. Flash Gordon, Fathom, 8 Ball Deluxe, a Williams World Cup from 1977. We had 6 Million Dollar Man. So some of the games that we've done before. We had, that should be a spam caller. Is it spam? Let's see. Hold on. Let me see if we got a, it's a caller on the line. What do we got? Can you read it? What did it say?
    28:00
    I'll take it. What did it say? Let's see here. Oh, that should be good. This should be good. This is Eric from the settlement department of Discover Credit Card. Congratulations. You are now qualified for a complete debt settlement on your credit card. This is a Sounds great. Oh, stop. Sounds good.
    28:21
    All right. Please hold while you are being transferred. I'll make this quick. As long as they get on the phone right away.
    28:29
    That's okay. You have five seconds to respond. I thought you were hanging up. Five, four, three, two. Thank you for responding. God's services. How are you doing today? Good. I was looking for a live representative or a dead representative. Are you part of the Dead Kennedys?
    28:50
    No? Hello? There's a caller on the air. Did the caller leave? I think you got squashed. Wow. That's the quickest spam call I ever heard.
    29:02
    Boy, they don't put up with that at Discover. No, no. Well, that's how they call Discover. Discover what they can put up with. They couldn't put up with me. Okay, okay, okay. So where were we? We were really in front of by crap.
    29:12
    Okay. No. who ended up winning? take a guess oh Benny because I predicted it yes Benny won oh three more titles Flight 2000 Ali and Stargazer as well in there in the mix ok so we've done did we do Flight 2000? I don't think we did that one yeah remember the new software we did the new software mod ok so we've done too many games and a great finals battle with Jeff Blair and Benny on Six Million Dollar Man. That was the final, the Six Million Dollar Man.
    29:50
    You're going to hear more about Benny in the episodes to come. I think Benny's an up-and-comer. He's one of the new young bucks. He might be the new Eric Stone. He's got focus. In fact, so much so that how I did this tournament was I had a card on every game, a poker deck card, ace through ten or whatever. And I had a double elimination. And I would, how I seeded the double elimination was, I said, everybody's going to play, I'm going to play a six-player game on Six Million Dollar Man. One game. How you do is how your seeding rank is going to rank. Right. And that's how I, so I seeded the two best together, the next two best together and set them off. So one and two, three and four. Right. All that stuff. Right there. Right. And then I, I basically, I said, okay, pick a card, you know, each one. So they went up and played a random game, and when they did best two out of three in that game, the loser would go to the loser's bracket, then, you know, next card they'd pick. I'll tell you, though, the cards that kept getting picked, it was all random, but there was very little cards picked for Stargazer or Ali or Flight 2000 for some reason. I don't know why they didn't get picked. Well, it's random. It's random. But you know what got picked a lot? Six Million Dollar Man got picked a lot. Blackjack got picked a lot. And Flash Gordon got picked a lot. Out of all that, they got picked the most. Okay. Which are great, because all those games are tough. So you changed the rules a little bit to get every game played? I was trying to get every game played. I was trying to do that so every game would get played. Well, maybe you make your own cards.
    31:22
    Make my own cards? Well, just one through eight, and when they come up, they come up. You could also weight it differently, too. If you want to put more Stargazers in there, you could put a few more Stargazers in there. That's true. I could. Take a deck of cards and just mark it up with a set of markers. Right. Yeah, I know, but it's like you're kind of stacking it down. Yeah, I understand. I'm sure. It's not a bad idea. I'll think about that one. I'll put that through the committee, the committee of me.
    31:48
    Yeah, right, right. The five of them, I get it. One more thing. Oh, so the final battle was on Six Minute Old Man with Benny and Jeff, and it was going, I think Jeff won the first one, and he smoked him. And then now they're on game two, and so Jeff was ready to sweep him. And Jeff, on game two, Jeff had ball three, Jeff had like 230,000, and Benny had 30,000 points. Ball one and ball two, straight down the middle, he did crap. Okay, so Benny's ready to lose on this game three. So Benny took his ball three and put that 30,000 up to, what would you say he got with one ball? 700,000.
    32:35
    825,000. and Pop Pop Pop got the high score and so now Jeff was on the freaking hook. Now the finals again and then Benny took the other one. So Benny freaking just... And Benny has concentration. Benny has youth in his side. You'll see Benny at the Pintastic come September. He's going to be a fourth we reckon with. He's really good.
    32:57
    Oh and Jeff Blair has claimed the fame. He is a really good player. He's a main champion pinball player at least. He's also world champion, world, yeah, world champion in Missile Command. He's the best Missile Command player in the world right now. I didn't know that. He is. He's flipped the game over three times with no free cities, Missile Command. Okay. No one's done that. Let's try to end the year. So this occurred right just before, was it New Year's?
    33:31
    Did you have this tournament on New Year's? No, this tournament was the week after New Year's. The weekend after New Year's. Okay.
    33:40
    Anything happen in between when we last recorded and this tournament? I kind of jumped ahead, I guess. The end of the year. Was there anything notable at the end of the year that you did? If not... As in like my... Oh, if it's a restoration, you can put it in another segment. Let's see. Looking really quick here in my calendar of events here.
    34:04
    Well, let's see. Remember that roller coaster tycoon I was having a problem with, the Envy Ram in Brewster? Remember I said I had to think about that? Wait, wait, wait. Which roller coaster tycoon? The new one. Yeah, the new one. Not the Gottlieb one. No, no, no. Not roller coaster. No, no, not that thing. I have a story about that. Okay. And you're going to be surprised. Okay. Go ahead.
    34:25
    It's an early 2000s Stern game, and typically, you know, those games are going to... This isn't the one up in Winnipesaukee. No. This is down in Brewster, down in Cape Cod. Okay, another one. So several months ago I was down there, and they bought it from some Pinside guy in Indiana, I think. And, you know, the guy put god-awful crappy LEDs from Generation 1 LEDs with, like, crap and did color puke, kind of like Todd from TNT would do the color puke ones. He puts, like, you know, just not so good. Sorry, Todd. I've talked to Todd about LEDs in the show before, and he thought I was too much of a purist. Well, you know. Tough luck. That's what I do here. Hold on. Let me shuffle my papers. So anyway, so I put NVRAM in this game and then turned it off to make on. The settings stayed and then all of a sudden the settings went away. It's like, well, that's kind of weird, but I think you're good. Left and about a week later, hey, the settings aren't holding. My high score is not on free play anymore. It says, great, the memory is not working. It's like having no batteries in the game. Like, what's going on here? So I said, let me think about it. Let me give it some thought. So I tried researching it. I talked to my Envy Ram guy. I talked to Stern about it. You talked about this. Yeah, all this stuff, right? Didn't you talk about this in one of our other shows? I did, but it was still in the thing that we don't know what the problem is. Oh, you finally resolved it. I resolved it. That's the resolution. Sorry, I'm like, okay. This is the Paul Harvey, the rest of the story. Okay, okay. I didn't realize that. I didn't realize we left everybody hanging. Yeah, we did. So now here's the resolution of that. so what I want to do is I I basically tell you what let's put your original RAM back in there and put some batteries in it and I'll put a remote battery holder on it and see what happens you know what the game works great it's like for some reason your board doesn't like NVRAM I don't know I don't know why I put in the exact same style uh so what did Andrew say it's not his right it's not his NVRAM oh okay I tried it I tried his RAM somewhere somewhere else that works great. It's not his RAM. It's the board.
    36:28
    That particular system that Stern used for this particular year, maybe a couple years, was different than other Sterns in that same time frame because that works in those games. In fact, the architecture of where these chips are is different. Have you heard anybody else having this problem? No.
    36:45
    Okay. No. So I just put it back. I said, I don't want to sit here and troubleshoot it for a whole day. I'm doing this for free. I'm doing this gratis for them. I did a free, all the way down the cake for free, to do this thing. Sometimes you've got to do that. But I put it back to... But it's a really, really nice customer.
    37:01
    Definitely sees politics and world views like we do, George. So that's why I wanted to, you know, do this. You like the guy. I like the guy.
    37:11
    Okay. That takes us to the first weekend. I have a story. Oh. Wait a minute. One more thing before you go there. Well, we're down in Brewster. I did several things that day. So actually, this day worked out really well. It wasn't just going down there, just a random thing just for him. I was going to stay with my mother down there in Falmouth. And as well, I was going to see an old Chicago who didn't have a lot in the budget thing, but I was going to say, okay, I can swing by to do something really quick. I usually don't. I usually want to do a full job on it, but I'll make an exception here and do something quick for him. Because it sounded kind of simple. and then another person, I got a surprise phone call from another person while I was down there. This is how this works. When I'm down at the Cape doing a couple things, out of the blue I got a call, hey, I have a game over in Mashpee. When can you come down here? Well, I'm actually down at the Cape right now. You're in luck because I never really found you. Good for you. You don't have to travel. Good travel. So I went to Old Chicago to fix the game, and this guy from Jolly Oyster Company, What he does, he has an oyster farm down there, and that's the guy who owned the game. He used to be a painter. Right. Now, I don't really like oysters. Ooh, I do. So here's the deal. I do. So here's the thing. So he said, oh, you like oysters? I go, yeah, they're okay. I've had one. He said, okay, well, I'll hook you up with one. I've had one. I'll hook you up with them. I've had one. I'll hook you up with that. I had no idea.
    38:44
    So I started researching ahead of time before I'm heading over there. what do you do with them? I can't see putting the sauce in them and shoot them down. You just swallow them. I don't get it. I get the whole thing. But then I said, oh, Oyster's Rockefeller. That looks something. Oh, that's really good. That's something I like. Did you make them? Oh, I did. After I finished doing this game, he said, he paid me and I gave him a really good deal on the price too. He was surprised how cheap it was. Like, ah, whatever. I'm down here doing some other stuff. So I gave him a cheap price to do what I did. And then he said, oh, here, I got something for you. He said, you like oysters? I said, yeah. Well, let me make sure you like them, because I don't want to waste them on you. He said, no, I'm going to eat them. I've got a plan for them. I heard about Oysters Rockefeller. I'm going to try them. Oh, okay. Well, here's his 13 freshly done oysters. I just picked the fresh, just out of the fridge. I understand. And here's Oyster Rockefeller sauce he can use that I made as well. He gave me this whole thing of sauce. Oh, so he sells... He sells that, too. And he said, and also, here's some smoked oyster cream cheese. So you can pitch this guy again. so it's called Jolly Oyster Company out of 1L, J-O-L-Y Oyster Company where is he at again? doesn't matter, look it up if you like oysters and you live in Cape Cod or New England go see him he's in Dennis so I basically got those I got those home and I didn't have how do I open these? I had to go on YouTube and look around and it said, oh, you need a special knife thing. Yeah. And I looked it up. It was like $30. I was like, well, I'm not paying $30 for that. So what do you use? What else can I do? You can use a flat blade screwdriver. So I use a short flat blade screwdriver. Okay. I polish it up. You got it really cold and you got it right at the muscle. I did. And you popped it. I did. And you didn't trash the shells?
    40:34
    You didn't make the shells into 19 pieces? No. You didn't do it in one? I would say nine times out of 13, I'm perfect. Okay. A couple of ones, not so much. That's pretty good. But not bad. And I had a big thing in my hand, so I wouldn't stab myself. I didn't make sure I did that. I did all that. That's one of the casualties. What's the whole cold thing? What do you mean cold? You have a cold knife? What are you talking about? Cold. No, no, no. Cold. You've got to get the oyster super cold. Oh. And then pop the muscle. They've got to be as cold as they can be. Oh, I didn't get that part. You can't leave them out on the counter and try to do it. Because they become. They're strong. Oh, you've got to get them at their weak point. I've got to get them really cold. I missed that part, so that's why I was struggling with it, because they put up a little fight. But I got them anyway. Right. I won the battle. Hello, Mom. Hello, Tom. It wasn't much of a fight. I stood right there. But not for long. I know. They're not dead. I know. You don't want to eat a dead one. I guess not. You'll be dead. Right. I never told you my grandfather sang for oysters. No.
    41:33
    Let's see if you can figure this out. This is Gene speak, not George speak. Okay. It only takes one.
    41:40
    Oh, it's like potato chips. To like them? No. Oh, it takes one to kill you. No. Oh, wait, I know, I know. It only takes one to have a good time. A certain kind of good time. An adult time. Yes, an adult good time. I see. So my grandfather said that to me forever. And I repeat it because I think it's funny. It only takes one. Well, I down 13 of them in a session. Well, then you have 13 times the potency. How's that? I wonder. They've got to be, what? I think they have to be raw.
    42:15
    They were, well, wait a second. They've got to be, oh, they weren't, well, they were cooked, though. I had cooked them. Right, you cooked them. So maybe they're not as cooked. Okay, enough oyster talk. That's good, though.
    42:25
    Oh, okay. So on the way to Mr. Jolly Oyster, I got a call. I was almost at his place. And I got a call from this lady I haven't heard from in about a year. And she said, oh, I'm, I'm, I talked to you about a Buck Rogers game. And I'm, and I was wondering if you could pick it up and restore it for me. We talked about restoring it. I'm ready to get it restored. So where are you? Oh, I'm over in, the game's over in Brewster. So I just came from there. It's like, all right, you know what? And I said, well, can I, can I, can I get it to you? Can I get it to you later, like at night? Now it's cold down there and we're getting like towards like three, four o'clock, getting dark. and said, well, it's in an unheated shed at this Masonic Hall and it's like, it won't be much light. I said, alright, I'm turning around. I'm going to get to you now. So I called my Joy Loister guy and said, I'm going to be with you later. And I went over to her and I rescued this Buck Rogers System 1 Gottlieb. I'm from the shed. Oh, System 1. I like System 1. Those are great. Is that a System 1? Yes, I think that is. But you know what, though? Because they had a crappy board set, but now there's a solution to a crappy board set. No, I know. We've talked about it. All the time. You're French, buddy. They're beautiful because they broke down early in life, so they're in nice shape. They just need the electronics done. And the one board fits all, boom. And then some connector work, shop it out, good to go. And it's very clean, actually. It's going to come out nice. So I put that in the car with all the rest of the crap. So we did three things that day. We made a profitable day that day. So that's good. Yeah. Okay. I think now you can go. So we're going chronologically. So that's around, well, that's the end of the year. Yeah. But you went to the 7th, so I'm going to go to the next weekend. Well, that was 27th. Actually, I'm going to go to the 7th. The 7th of? The 7th of January. That's when you had. That's my party. That's the pinball thing. Right, right. So you already talked about that. Yes. So I'm traveling from my son's house in Virginia to Florida.
    44:31
    We get to Jacksonville. We stay overnight. That's the Friday night. Saturday morning at 9 a.m., I call my buddy from childhood at the Jersey Shore, who I haven't seen since I got married.
    44:46
    Don't say how long. And he's like, oh, yeah, come over. He lives in Port State, Lucy. There's a reason I'm telling you this story. So we got to talking about what we did as kids together, and pinball came up. and he said to me, well, you know, we used to always go to Barnacle Bills. I said, yeah. I said, do you remember the games we played? He goes, yeah, we played that roller coaster game. He remembered the Gottlieb. The Gottlieb from 72 or something. And I said to him, do you remember where it was in the arcade? He goes, oh, yeah, it was the second to last game at the end of the row. I go, what was the game at the end of the row? Eight ball. he remembered 40 years later like I did, we talked about this in one of my shows you're like, how do you remember that? I did the same thing with Fun and Games and PJ we know exactly where the games were because we put a lot of money in that so it was really good to see my friend Joe relived old times hopefully I get down there again soon and I see him it was fun I then went the following weekend to the Silver Ball Museum in Delray Beach. Yeah, I heard good things about that place. I did a quick walkthrough. I did a quick overview. It's like five minutes.
    46:14
    On the road again, folks. In Florida. Home of the Silver Ball Museum in Delray Beach. Weather changed yesterday been 80 degrees all week went down to 47 this morning so we're doing a little indoor activity. I'm going to take a few minutes to walk through the Silver Ball Museum give you an idea what's here so if you do plan on visiting sometime this spring or summer you'll have a great time and know all the machines that are here at the museum. So they got a couple of arcade games here, Cruisin' World, Afterburner, Mortal Kombat, Q-Bert, pardon me, Q-Bert, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., Multicade, Pac-Man, let's get to the pinballs though, I'm only, I just stepped in, Beatles, Iron Maiden, Mandalorian, Godzilla, Guns N' Roses, Styled In, Hobbit, Wizard of Oz, Monster Bash, Theater of Magic, Adam's Family, Creature from the Black Lagoon, and Getaway. Oh my. And if you're looking for some nostalgia, what do we have? We've got Thing Bag Bar. Oh, and here's one I'm not familiar with.
    47:35
    Barbed Wire by Gottlieb. Okay, we're going to have to play that. It'll give you a little bit of an idea of what I thought of it later on. Big place. I think there's a nightclub upstairs, although I've never been here at night. I'm here on Saturday afternoon, like I said. Oh, I did not see this the last time I was here.
    47:56
    Oh, and it's under registration. Restoration. What did I say? Registration. Restoration. A 1956 Williams crane game. Played this in my youth. Ten cent game. A lot of fun. Pick up the beans and put them in the hopper and see how many you can get. Okay, we're over in Nostalgia Row here. Music might be a little loud, but 1977, Gottlieb Lucky Hand, a Gottlieb Sinbad, or as I have referred to it before as Sin Sad, Black Hole. One of the games that I've said, I think, on previous podcasts that I'd like to play. Okay, Cosmic Gunfight, doing a little work on Black Knight, Gorgar, Flash, Sorceress, Space Shuttle, oh here we go, Into Stern Row, couple anyway, Galaxy, Cheetah, Kiss, Valley Row, here we go, Kiss, 8-Ball, Playboy, Paragon, and Space Invaders. got a handful of EMs on this side we got Charlie's Angels and Joker Poker Dave's got one of those uh, Bolly Wizard and Evil Knievel that is EM 1976, Hocus Pocus here's another one, Bow and Arrow that Dave has Captain Fantastic Mata Hari these are all EMs, regular fireball Jumpin' Jack Royal Flush and uh Oh, Gottlieb New York, and I believe this game was... Ah, they've got placards on all these, I'm not going to read it. But I thought this game was a couple of different ones. It was produced in replay fashion for the rest of the world as Gottlieb Pioneer, as well as a four-player Spirit of 76, so I'm right. This was a game that had multiple themes to it. Let's see. Last row, hopefully you can still hear me, we're still in EM, Gottlieb Fire Queen, a Gottlieb Gemini, Fun Fest, Space Mission, Magic Cam, Space Lab, oh gun game, some of my favorites. We've got a twin rifle and a Coney Island.
    50:09
    And then we have a 1969 Chicago Coin Speedway. Put a lot of quarters in this at the bowling alley. A pong.
    50:19
    And let's see. Oh, we've got a couple of wood rails. A knockout, flipper, and a roto pool. Have to play those.
    50:29
    50, 60, and a 58. Wow. So, in a couple of that amount of games, we've got a 1954 Chicago Coins Super Home Run. Don't know if I've ever played that one. Wrong. So, we've got a 1954 Chicago Coins Super Home Run. Six-player, electromechanical. That's unique. Then you've got a 1955 United Star Slugger two-player.
    50:58
    So, both of these games have upper decks. Three levels. That's a pretty cool game. The second one's under restoration. Then we have a 1958 Williams shortstop with the animated back box. Very cool. And then we've got a shuffle house.
    51:18
    So that kind of gives you an idea of what is here at the Silver Ball Museum here in Delray Beach. I'm going to break. I'm going to start playing and I'll let you know how we do. Maybe we'll come back and talk a little bit more about some of the specific games. How's that?
    51:46
    But I wanted to talk about some of the games that I played and some that just befuddled me, some that are going to... you're going to look at me and go, really? They have an assortment of EMs, solid state, and modern games. They also have a digger game and some old baseball games. They have some arcade games, which I didn't really, obviously. You know, all the ones you would expect.
    52:18
    I played a lot. A lot. Were your flipper fingers tired? Yes. Only after two hours. Just went shopping. So, Delray is a perfect place, guys. If you're in Florida and you want to go drink and play pinball and have your wife be entertained, this is a definite. Go to Delray Beach. It's very touristy. There's a big art thing going on today. They closed the streets. It looked like New York City from three years ago. It was wall-to-wall people. I couldn't believe it. But I played Godzilla Pro. I played a lot of it. That's a really, really good game. It doesn't have all the mechs that the LE have, but man, that's a fun game. I can see why it's the most popular game, and it's probably going to be the number one seller ever. It's got to be. So that's going to probably go up in value as time goes on versus the other Stern stuff, maybe. I mean, if you don't want to spend the money on all the mechs, it's a good shooting game. It's a fun game. And you know me. I'm not a big modern guy, but that was a fun game. Here's the one that will really twist you. I really like Mandalorian. Oh, I don't know why. But I don't know anything. I've never watched the TV show. I know nothing about it. I don't either. But that a fun shooting game except for that steep ramp thing next to the hanging balls thing What know what did we name it No what did those women name it Truck nuts? Truck nuts. That's it. The truck nuts. It's got that super steep ramp in it. I think you like it because it puts you down like Centaur does. It kind of mocks you. It's a mocking kind of game. You can't hear anything.
    54:10
    I'll play it for you after we're done. When you hear it, it's just... And I was one of the first people in, so I said, okay, now's the time to do this recording. Because as soon as people pile in, and it got crazy. I mean, there were a lot of people there. Kids, families, guys by themselves. Is there music going on in the background? Did anybody pipe in any music or anything? Yeah, they did. And you'll hear it when I see, well, we'll talk about this game. What flavor? Black Hole. When I was standing next to Black Hole.
    54:39
    Their version needed some work. I really didn't understand it. You've got to play John Day's version. So we're going to do a show on that because I'm interested in it. But the one that really was weird, explain this game to me. Barb Wire. Oh, boy, Barb Wire. It's got the Buddha thing. The booby thing? Not the booby thing. Oh. A Buddha thing. In the center, like a tarp. And some ramps. I truly didn't get that game. Somebody, you know, explain that to me. send me an email. It's a Gottlieb, right? I believe it is.
    55:18
    System 3, I think. I don't know enough about the game. Is there a movie? Oh, yeah. Who's that? Pamela Anderson? Pamela Anderson, of course it is. She got a special tattoo on her arm. It's like a barbed wire on her arm for this. She was going through a weird thing with Tommy Lee and the video that got exposed and all that stuff.
    55:38
    And they had a Buddha in their house. She's a big time in the New Age Buddha stuff. I don't even know if it's a Buddha. It looks like a Buddha. Yeah. But, again, I don't know anything about the game. I played it just to say I played it.
    55:51
    Game I like, and I'm wondering if you still own it. Cheetah. No. I have a story about Cheetah. It's a good thing you brought it up. I'll tell you that later, but remind me about Cheetah, because no, and the person I sold it to contacted me in an email. To buy it back? No. No, no, no. He contacted me. It was a story about it. basically contacted me, and I'll tell you the whole story about that, basically in the viewer-listener or viewer-mail section or whatever. Okay. Listener-mail. There you guys know what I'm saying. Let's see. Did I miss anything from there?
    56:23
    No, they had a bunch of battle games that I – they had Space Invaders and Paragon. I didn't play them because I don't like Space Invaders. I own a Paragon, so I didn't need to play Invaders. I played an EM – no, I didn't. I had two hours. Oh, so you wanted to get a game. I was cramming as much as I could. I was trying to get around and play everything.
    56:44
    But if you got the time, you could spend four or six hours in there without any issue. You were asking me about music. Yeah, they do have music on. But it's also a nightclub at night. So they have a stage on the second floor where they do live music. They have a DJ in there, I guess, more often than bands. They do private parties. That's a happening place. It's a pretty good place. Do you have beers? No. Let's talk about Florida beer. Coors? Coors Light? And Bud Light? And crap like that? Corona? Lots of Corona.
    57:20
    All that and more. Trying to find a good IPA is like looking for a needle in a haystack. I saved one that we'll talk about when we go downstairs. Maybe we can have that one. And then I have a really good place we're going to talk about.
    57:39
    Do you want to talk about beer right now for a minute? Yeah, go ahead. It's in your best interest. Should we break on this? Why don't you come here and then we'll... And we go to beer part two.
    57:54
    So Dave asked me about Florida IPAs. I tried a handful. and I'll be honest with you, they need to go back to the drawing board in comparison to IPA's brood here in New England. All right, meaning like, what are they like? Are they kind of sugary? Are they kind of... No, they just don't have the taste. And I wonder if it's the water. What's their water like?
    58:25
    I would never drink any municipal water down in Florida. Because it has alligator flavor? I just don't drink tap water unless it comes from a spring or it comes from a well. Because it's usually fluoridated. It's got crap in it. Fluoride's good for you. I don't like tap water, okay? I don't like tap water. So that was my only thing. I don't know if that's the reason. Because brewing is brewing, but they need to go back to the drawing board. Anyway, so we were talking about Buddhas in the last segment. there's a brewery in oakland park or overland park it's a suburb of fort lauderdale called funky buddha brewing and i tried one of their beers called hop gun not top gun like you like all right yeah okay okay could have potential okay it was okay i tried a beer from a1a brewery I think is the name of it, in Pompano Beach where I was staying.
    59:30
    What was it called? Galaxy Skate. Better, but not by much. Well, when you say you don't think filter the water before you make beer? I don't know, but it's not the same. You'll understand I'm getting someplace, and then you're going to be really happy. Okay. So then I drank this other beer called Cigar City, from Cigar City Brewing up in Tampa. I've heard of it. It was called Florida Man. And I have a can of it. So when we go downstairs to play the game, we're going to have a couple of beers.
    60:04
    It was okay. But I stopped drinking beer on holiday and started drinking rum. Wow. As I said to you in our text, and folks, I want to remind you, Dave and I have not talked in five weeks. This is all raw today. So bear with us. There's a lot of stories to go through. But the beers in Florida just need help.
    60:32
    The best beer I had, no, let me rewind. I drank for like three weeks straight. I haven't done that in forever.
    60:43
    I don't know if you remember. No, I didn't. But I drank every day. And I want to tell people. Let's say they have goals. I want to tell people, you think 20-somethings can go and party? They don't hold a candle to the retirement set. I saw people drinking at 8 o'clock in the morning by the pool. That's called... Drunks. Alcoholics.
    61:09
    AA. I at least waited until 3 o'clock in the afternoon. Wow. Is that before the coffee or after the coffee?
    61:18
    No, these people were... And then I had this one woman come up to me and say, oh, I saw she had two really nice looking Bloody Marys. I'm like, oh, wow. She goes, let me let you in on a little secret. Like Joe Biden. Let me let you in on a little secret. You can go up to the bar from 8.30 to 11.30 and they're only $3.95. They go to $8 after 11.30. I buy four of them. So I can go up and get them as I need to and only pay the low price. I'm like, oh, my God.
    61:55
    This went on for two weeks. Wow. Plus the before, plus the after. So that was kind of crazy. I forgot one thing on my trip. When we stopped in Jacksonville, we stayed at a True Hotel. Have you ever seen – I've heard of that. I've heard of True Hotel by Hilton, right? Yeah, it's a little – Yeah. It's kind of a – It's a hipster place, but good. Price was right. they had something I've never seen before.
    62:24
    You ever seen an automatic pancake maker? Hmm, automatic. That doesn't sound too good. It sounds like very corporate. Janice called them rubber pancakes. I bet. But it was cool watching the machine make them. Did it say Grandma's Pancakes on it? No, it did not. Didn't try to sell them? I had one just to try it, and it was not very good. You're a brave man.
    62:47
    Put a beer next to it. So now we're going to come to the best beer. I think I've said in previous podcasts that my son has moved to Virginia.
    62:59
    And on the way home from Florida, we stopped in again because we put over 3,500 miles on our Pacifica.
    63:12
    We rented a minivan. How was that? It was great. I would buy that car in a second. Okay. You should have one. I should have one. You should have one for your pinball business. All right. I need one. It's got the two sliders, one on each side, and it's got the big hatch. Anybody who owns one of these, you should contact us and let us know how many you can cram in one of those. And it's comfy. It's a comfy seat. Captain seats. Captain seats in the back. I'd remove those if I wanted to haul pinballs, but there's a lot of room in it. Great place. So, we got back to Virginia Friday, Saturday, and on Sunday, he took us to the world's greatest microbrewery in existence. And I so happen to have something for you, Mr. Dave. All right. What is it? Oh, goody. The name of the brewery is Two Stylos. Okay. This place, go out and take a look, folks. They got one of everything.
    64:16
    Two. Doesn't he have number two? Is that what you're trying to say? No, no, I didn't say that. Maybe you are number two. I'm number two.
    64:25
    Number two is going to take a number one. Hold on. No, I'm just kidding. So, this place has everything.
    64:34
    Indoors, it had a stage with live music. We were watching the football playoffs while this gal sang and played guitar. They had two igloos. These weren't your little put four people in igloos. These things were huge. They had a living room in one of them and a sports bar in the other one. I'm not done. Why? They have a restaurant on premises. In Igloo? That is hard to get into. No, this is a separate building entirely. I'm only on, that's three buildings. Okay. I have more buildings to go. Okay. They have a restaurant on premises. Yeah. They have a party center or banquet facility where I saw pictures of their New Year's party. Oh, man, did that look like fun. They have an outdoor stage. They have food trucks. They have an ice cream truck that was an old milk truck. They have a children's, it's called Two Silos. They have two silos. It's by this company, their hospitality group called Volagio. I guess they own multiple properties. I haven't been out there, but they also own a distillery down the road. They're building the distillery, another one, on this site. There is something there for everybody. It is by far the funnest place to go and drink beer. I thought I was only going to be there for a short time.
    66:09
    Cirrhosis of liver. Oh, wow. I keep thinking of the Bugs Bunny cartoon. I crown thee cirrhosis of liver.
    66:21
    Sirloin of beef. I shall knight thee. I rise. I rise, sirloin of beef. Keep banging them on their head. Arise, Duke of Maester, Duke of Myrrh, quarter of Kent.
    66:32
    In gratitude for your faithful service, I shall knight thee, your most gracious majesty. In the name of my most royal majesty, I knight thee. Arise, sir loin of beef.
    66:49
    Arise, sir loin of clothes. Arise, Duke of Brittingham. Arise, Baron of Monchelle. I have their this was a they could compete in New England they have a IPA called Mosaic Goat I have one with me well you'll try, it's more East Coast, not West Coast but they made, name of style beer they made it The weird thing was you just said that. There are no coincidences. This is like God winks at you. When you just said that, you know what I was just watching before you got over here? Who? I was watching that Bugs Bunny thing, that exact thing. You just said I was watching that. What are the odds of that? What are the odds? Just tell me. Low. Yeah, low. Very. But it kept playing in my head every day. I'm like, I'm going to drink again.
    67:47
    I can stop any time. So my wife has declared February. Oh, get clean. It's dry February. It's like, close out, George. No more. No IPAs. No nothing.
    68:02
    You're going into the cave. So, there's that. Let's see. Okay, I got another pinball location. I didn't make it to it. Fort Lauderdale, there's places, but, you know, a machine here, a machine there. Most of them moderns. The one place I didn't go to, and it was over a half an hour away, and when you're on the beach, you're not getting in the car to go a half an hour to go play pinball. Just not. Especially if there's only one game you want to play. Was there boardwalk pinball there anymore? Kind of boardwalk thing? No, there's no boardwalk anywhere. Fishing piers, but no boardwalks.
    68:47
    A place called Glitch. and they had a game, and now we'll have this little conversation. They only had one game I wanted to play, and you're going to cringe.
    68:59
    Rush. James Bond. Ugh. Now, let's get into this whole James Bond thing. Being on vacation for two weeks, being away from home for three weeks, I had a lot of opportunity to listen to podcasts. I am, and I will emphasize this, I am sick of listening to people pontificate about James Bond. Even Kaneda? Everybody.
    69:28
    Folks, you're like lemmings. One of the podcasts revealed how many listens they had in the last year. Now, this is an established one. I'm not going to talk about who it is. But this will blow you away, Dave. Now, we're a little, you know, cable channel podcast type.
    69:49
    38,000 listens in 2022. Who? Us? No, not us. Why not? That's exactly what I'm saying. Why? How in God's name can you listen to all these people talk about the same damn thing? We've got alternative programming.
    70:08
    We're like this little speck over sand over here. And there's a big pile over here, but it's the same regurgitated stuff from everybody else. They all talk about the same. I don't get it. I just, folks, tell everybody. One month away, I'm convinced that we had a lot more new listeners because you were probably running for the hills trying to find something else. And we heard from our good friend Grant in Australia. What did he happen to say? He happened to say, oh, I was jonesing for your podcast, so I had to go dumpster diving. And he went and found some guy named Don who just started. And it sounded like, hey, you're beautiful. Hey, FM DJ type. Hey, what's going on? Hey, it's beautiful out there. It's only 35 degrees. Oh, you know, enough. Enough. Just cookie cutter. More cookie cutter. Same old stuff. Yeah, same old stuff. Just one. Another person's take. Boring. Another person's take on the same damn machine. Yep. And you're not going to buy it anyway. I will say he had no partners he could actually talk and talk and talk that's hard to do by yourself it is but there's certain guys who can do it I like Owen Benjamin out there some people don't like him I don't care but I like him a lot he can talk for himself and it's interesting and controversial but interesting so that's my diatribe on the podcast world I'm hoping we gain some more listeners. I'm very grateful for all those who listen to us on a regular basis. I'm happy that our numbers are going up, not going down. And I'd like to hear from some people. I think people are afraid. I didn't get one, not one email from anybody in the last five weeks. I got a couple. They must like you because they're freaking afraid of what I'm going to say.
    72:06
    Jeez. It's a good cop, bad cop thing. You have your moments. Don't you hide behind that shroud. I know a game I played. Go back a minute.
    72:20
    I played Bally Strikes and Squips. Yeah. Bally Strikes and Spares. Great artwork and it's basically a poor man's eight ball deluxe. Like it or spike it.
    72:33
    That's going to be it. I'm going to adopt that as a I think that might be a new... That's a good... Could that be a good little thing that we do? Yeah. One game and we just say, like it or spike it? I will say it's better than Knight Rider. I like it better than Knight Rider. Okay. I like it better than Lost World.
    72:49
    Well, Lost World is worse. That's... Yeah, right. Lost Clause, as we call it. PJ owns one of those games. What else? So, Glitch. Oh, I know what I want to talk about. Yeah.
    73:05
    I went to this gallery. I'm jumping ahead again. It's just, though. So we're talking about James Bond. So after we were in Florida, we made a stop in Savannah, Georgia. My wife had been there before I never had. And there was a really cool arcade there called Gravemark Arcade. But I couldn't really figure it. I looked at the map. Well, they had a lot of stuff, and it looked pretty good. But I'm down on the riverfront, right? And there's this storefront that says Grave Mark Museum. So I knew there was a museum as well, as well as the arcade. So I walk in, and there's a lady sitting behind, you know, the counter where you'll bring up your gift shop crap, right? So it was a whole gift shop for a grave marker. I go in and go is the price do you have to pay an admission price to play in the arcade she looked at me with deadpan face and said I don't have any idea what you're talking about this was my first interaction in Savannah Georgia this sounds familiar no I've never been there before so I walk And I'm like, wait a minute. I go, this is Grave Marker, right? This is the museum? Oh, no, no, no. The museum's not here.
    74:39
    I'm like, okay, so where's the museum? I don't know. Now, wait a second. I've walked into a gift shop. It's associated with the museum. And you're not even offering me a map, directions, a website, anything. She just completely was like, the ultimate F you, I'm not even going to entertain what you have to say. What do you say you do here? Do you call that Southern Hospitality? No. I call that an F you. So, it looked like a really cool place. I never made it there. I wish I did. So, here's two places I didn't get to. That one, we just didn't have enough time. We were only there for an afternoon. So, there wasn't enough time. I'm not sure I'm going to go back. But if we go to Florida again, it's a midway point.
    75:29
    Maybe we'll go there again. The food was real good. We went to a really cool Marriott that had all this really cool amethyst and what's the purple rocks? Those formations and citron. These things were like six feet tall, like rock formations. They had this giant dinosaur. All kinds of rocks and stuff. It was really cool. chicken bones in that thing. No, no chicken bones. Okay. Grown up. So that was cool. So Savannah's okay.
    76:02
    Again, I didn't drink any beer there. They got these places, the blender places, a wall full of blenders, you know, like margaritas, frozen margaritas, frozen daiquiris, you name a flavor, they had it. This place in Texas, man, they love their drinks, it sounds like. Texas is the same way.
    76:20
    They must have had a dozen of these machines with a different flavor. You know what I'm talking about, right? The ones that look like a dry... So there's a couple of these. Oh, yeah, ten bucks a whack. I'd be dead. Like I said, I'm telling you, this is just... I get a problem from my betrothed over here. If I have two beers in a night, she says, uh-uh-uh. That's two nights in a row. Don't go on vacation to Florida. So I'll be good boys for a week, and then Maybe I'll have one or two then. That's just beer. Never mind mixed drinks. I used to be drinking... Like I said, I changed because I couldn't find a decent beer to drink. I changed to rum.
    77:04
    That wasn't bad, but... Spiced rum or regular rum? No, just regular Bacardi, silver rum. Nothing fancy, but... What are you mixing it? I'm really... Fruit juice stuff? No. Very different. No, you never heard people drink this. What is it? With tonic. No. That sounds wrong. No. No, that's what I drink. And nothing, just tonic, that's it. No flavor, no lime. Tonic and squeeze the lime. Okay, squeeze the lime. Oh, that's a low-calorie drink, maybe.
    77:32
    No, I don't drink diet tonic. That tastes like something out of the sewer. Well, they're calories and tonic. Yeah, they're calories and tonic. Vodka has the least amount of calories. Anyway, so that's my stories. What other games do I have?
    77:50
    Any classic games? Do you have any of these? Any good rare stuff you played? No, nothing. Any of my game plan? Did you play Andromeda, maybe? Was there any Andromeda there? Nope. That's a good game plan. We'll go through the list of games when I play that thing, and we can talk about it in the next show. Do you own any of these games? All right, go ahead. Do you own a Memory Lane?
    78:11
    No. Nope. Do you own a Stern Magic? I did, but I sold that. Do you have a Wildfire? No. Wow. These are all old. These are version one stirrups that aren't that great. The sound cards suck. Somewhere along the way, I saw these games. I'm like, I wonder if Dave's got these games. By choice, I don't have them. Okay, that's fair.
    78:37
    I'm good for now. What, uh, I kind of took you through everything. I don't know what else there. What you did on your winter vacation. That's what we did. Oh, I do have one more thing. Yes. One more thing. That's my line. This will be an upcoming show. I'm not going back to Virginia until March, but I did find, it's all modern games, Dave, but I found another brewery that does have, Two Silos does not have an arcade. That's what I forgot. Two Silos does not have an arcade, and they should have pinballs. They got one of everything else. Just put two, three, four games there. You'll probably do pretty well with it. Can a two-saddle sound like some kind of strip club? No. Okay. No. If you know what I'm trying to say. I do. All right. I do. That's one free silo.
    79:27
    Ocelot Brewing has, I haven't been there, but that's on my list next time I go to Virginia, so I'll report back. They actually have pinballs. You'll hear more pinball talk, but it'll probably be mostly modern, so there's not any, I didn't see any classics. Maybe one, maybe two. Okay. I think that sums up my winter vacation.
    79:49
    All right. Well, I have very exciting stuff. It makes me want to go to Delray Beach and take a drive down there.
    79:57
    Because I am the boss here. You can visit Eric. I could visit Eric. I could do that. I could have done that, but I didn't. I don't know, because Eric will just say, hey, watch me play this. Hey, watch me play this. Hey, you don't watch me. You know he just won the state tournament, right? I have no idea. I've been in communicato with the guy. The guy, he... He comes and goes. He comes and goes with the wind. All of a sudden, it's weird. I don't know. But he just won the state championship. The state championship just took place this last weekend. And I mentioned to you earlier before we got on air that Brian O'Neill won in my state. Can you guess who won in your state? You have two choices. Think hard. Okay. The two most prominent people you can think of. Which one of them won? Our neighbor from Salem. That's one.
    80:47
    And... Yep, the other one. Oh, yeah. The animal. The animal, yeah, who had a little problem with his partner doing pinball in Cambridge. He runs Cambridge Pinball. He ended up winning. He won? Yeah, the lemur. Oh, that guy. Who'd you think? I was thinking Mitch. No, the lemur. The lemur, wow. Yeah, the lemur won. Did they win in a ramp game? I haven't watched any pinball there's a lot of stuff that's been going on YouTube I didn't watch Indisc I don't even know who won Indisc but that was all so those are the two favorites in the state or tri-state but the only way that you can compete for the state championships is you have to have played in other tournaments and have some kind of ranking in the state I don't know what that is they held the one, you know the guy I don't remember his name, and he probably doesn't want me to broadcast it, but the guy who owns the Ice Ice Baby Arcade. Oh, yeah, that guy, Chris. Right, him. He hosted the New Hampshire one. And Janice saw the picture. Actually, it was on TV. My local TV station in Manchester actually did an expose on it, and Brian O'Neill was interviewed. So I thought that was pretty cool. Usually don't get a lot. I mean, you've been on TV, but usually that is not covered very well. No, it's starting to now. Pinball is becoming bigger and bigger and bigger, so it's getting more and more TV coverage. And they're including a lot more.
    82:18
    So what do you want to talk about? What do I want to talk about? Because this is going to turn into the Dave show. Yes. The Adventures of Dr. Dave. Do you want to talk about your adventures? Yeah. Do you want to talk about a fix?
    82:31
    Yeah, for both. I got both. I'm not even going to look at the time. We haven't even gotten to going to the basement to talk about... That's all right. What's the game? Oh, Who Done? Who done it? Yeah. Who? No, what? Where? Who done it? Who, what, where? Hey, what's up, Doc? What's cooking? What's up, Doc? Oh, you're looking for bugs, funny bunting. Doc is gonna hunt them just to get a rabbit skin, but now the rabbit's gonna get... What's up, Doc? What's cooking? Hey, look out! Stop! He's gonna hunt someone with a little shotgun. What's up, Doug? Well, I got this, I got an email a month or so ago from this lady in Connecticut. And I get a lot of calls from Connecticut these days. It's weird. So, if it's like an hour, hour and a half, I'll make the drive. And I basically tell them what they're going to be looking at, you know, price-wise. They'd make the pilgrimage there and get it all done, what I got to do. And do a day spa, that kind of deal. but this one she had she said well this game, we just bought the house this game came with the house and it doesn't really, doesn't work and what am I going to do? Hold on, I'm getting whispered in the ear here guess the game we're going to play guess the game he's not going to guess this game ok, yeah you know I know, well how much fun is that if I don't even have a chance exactly so I don't know about that. We'll see. No, we're not guessing. No, he'll never get it. Right. He'll never get it. So basically, she was saying the game is like, and I said, well, it kind of plays, but it starts up. There's no score display. So just send me some pictures. Send me a quick video of it and let me know. So I found it. It's an Alvin G, which is like. Oh, not the rock and roll one. What's the name of that game? Yeah, Al's Garage Band. Yeah, that's the game. That one, yeah. Oh, I know that game. Yeah, you do? Yeah. You played that game? No, but I know what it is. Okay. So I say, okay. They didn't make too many games. No, they didn't. And come to find out, that game is one of the best games they made. That and Mystery Castle are two good games. And I was kind of like, no, he sold that. So I said, well, I said, listen, it's like, I've never worked on one. The parts are pretty much unavailable for this game. So I can come down there and give it my best shot. But you're looking at X for me at least to try. He's fix it or no fix it. It's going to be this price. If I have luck with it, I get it going, and then they want me to go forward and then shop it on, make a day start, and it's going to get closer to this price. Are you okay with that? Oh, sounds good. So I know I was going to get paid either way, so it's worth me the time to go down there. So I brought all my stuff and what I could think to work on the thing. So it was an Alvin Gottlieb or – Alvin G. But Alvin Gottlieb. No, right. So basically, when I went down there, it's like this game was gorgeous. It was like home use only. and the beautiful cabinet, play field it's a great little game I was like wow so then it's imported from Germany, a lot of these games went to Germany they didn't come here, the problem is Williams basically got told all their distributors back in the early 90's like no no no, don't buy don't sell their games sell our games, otherwise we're not going to use you as much, we're going to send you not as much stuff if you use them, we don't want to have them in the market They basically tried to shut them out of the market here. That's why they got sold overseas more. And they got kind of, they got kind of, Gottlieb founders, David Gottlieb, and so they had, they got bought out several times, several times, several times. They actually took the Gottlieb name. So Alvin and Michael, they said, well, we want to, we're just going to call our games Alvin G, but it's the Gottlieb brand, but not really Gottlieb from the corporate side. So they did their own thing. They wanted to put their mark on the Pinball Society. So I looked at the game, and I'm looking at stuff. It's like, well, I looked it up. The boards all look good. There's no battery rot because they use a little watch battery in there. It wasn't rot. It was a lithium thing. So that wasn't a problem. I said, let me just, you know what? Typically on any of these games, go for the simple stuff. Let's look at connectors. Those are all good. All right. Next thing to look at, let's look at sockets on the driver board. There's like a couple IC chips that are socketed. So I started lifting a couple up, and it's like, oh, wait a minute. This chip here in the DMD driver board looks a little corroded. Look at the socket. That looks a little corroded. So it's like, well, it's worth trying this. So I basically de-soldered the socket chip. I de-soldered another, and I put the chip back in with new sockets. Boom. The display came back up beautifully. So the chip was good. The legs needed a little bit of cleaning. Right. And you put a new seat, a new socket. Right. But before I did all that, I brought with me an extra DMD display, because it was a DMD game. And I tried different cable ribbons, the ribbon cables for it didn't do it. When I put my new display in there, it actually started to have some kind of life, some kind of staticky life. It's like, okay, maybe the display is bad. So I kept my new display in there, replaced the socketed chips, and it came to full life after I did that, when I replaced the sockets. Then Morgan said, why don't you put the other display back in and see if it's all right. So I put the oldest play back in it from the game, and that worked great. So I called upstairs and I said, hey, we have good news. She said, oh, you got it running great. I said, one minute, yeah, please do your thing. Stay as long as you want. I said, we got a pulse. We got a pulse here. This thing wants to live. So we went crazy on the game. I had to MacGyver certain things, like this automatic ball launcher that was broken off. I had to take another one I had and kind of make it work and combine two things and made that work. so I don't think we launched the balls now. Shot it out with warm LEDs and clear silicone rubber everywhere.
    88:25
    All the fuses were wrong. It was over-fused and certain things. And a big surprise. And look at it. The game was, like, clean. Things were totally clean, and it wasn't too much. Is that a real rare game? Kind of rare, yeah. A couple thousand units? I think a thousand units. Maybe a thousand, maybe two. Something like that. Wow. So a very colorful game, but it's in gorgeous shape. And I guess I found it later on, it's very desirable. because he said, well, if you can't get it fixed, we're going to have to get rid of it. So if I couldn't fix it, I was going to say, well, I could take it out. So what's it worth? I think it's worth like five grand anyway. Okay. The way it is now, it definitely works. Well, it works. And it's gorgeous. It's like home use only working. Is it a unique proprietary board set? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So that's the issue. That's the issue. So the board set. Good luck. Oh, you have some audio on it. Oh, and also, I have some audio of the game. I actually recorded the game, so I can show you that later or whatever. I recorded the game. Just send me the file. I'll send you the file. And I'll include it. And I did some funny things, because you've got Al and his garage band. He's up there, and he's doing this thing. It's a rock and roll thing. Rock and roll thing. So does he play his music? Yeah, he plays music. Reparatory music? Yeah, their own thing. Okay. Yeah.
    89:38
    I always think of Alvin and the Chipmunks. I don't know why. Yeah, you know, that's another thing. That's another thing. I was saying, I've heard it down there. It's kind of like Scooby-Doo. It's kind of like Alvin and the Chipmunks and Scooby-Doo a little bit. Yeah, kind of like Scooby-Doo. We've got like a Scooby-Doo vibe out of it with, you know, the gang there and so forth. And then you've got a picture on the slingshot of Al's wife in curlers, slippers, and a house coat saying, Turn it down! You know, and then the voice in the game. Hey, she's still in our life. Well, we stole her over. She actually does say, Turn it down! Did you record that? I did. Oh, good. Oh, it's great. So I got a new sound. Oh, good. That's great. Oh, good. But who ordered that voice? She nailed it perfectly. So like a Mrs. Kravitz? Yeah. Yeah, I kind of know somebody who has a white shirt like that. No one in this room, but, you know.
    90:32
    Oh, boy. Okay, so that's one. Let's go. What other? Oh, yeah. And TopCast, who first started doing the Pinball Podcast. You know, that's, everybody refers to them. Yeah. Maureen was trying to tell me earlier, she goes, oh, there's this old, I've heard. That's why I started listening to them. Isn't that, help me, Clay Harrell. Yeah, Clay, yeah, yeah. Right, Clay Harrell, right? Yeah, yeah. So he talked about, he had a whole episode on Alvin G, talking about the guy, talking to Michael, he talked to Michael Gottlieb, I think. He talked to them about this. So we started listening to that a little bit to get some background. That's interesting. I think it's TopCast number 13, I think. Okay.
    91:13
    So, yeah, they were great pins. Besides the cheap paint and wood they used, they would have made even better stuff, but Williams basically had more of a say and basically gave them the kibosh and put them to the side.
    91:26
    But they had a Gottlieb factory. It was actually a Gottlieb hospital. I mean, by David Gottlieb, they had a hospital. They used the hospital and the factory next to the hospital to make these games. So they got a small fan club, and it's a fun little game. and unique stuff on the game. Oh, so when I told them when it was all done, the cute little girl she had, one girl, I mean, she's like five, six years old, something like six, and she came down and she's like, does it work? I said, oh, you're going to like it. It works great. So the parents came down and said, oh, it's going, it looks great, thank you. She's thanking us up and down for making it come back to life because this thing didn't work when they bought the house, the person who had it. How long would it have been sitting?
    92:07
    Years? 10 years or more, 15 years. It took them that long? Well, these people only bought the house like three years ago. Right. And it's been sitting since then, but it stopped even before them. They bought it with the house because the guy didn't want to move the game. He just left the game there as part of the house when they bought the house. And this guy's house is a very nice, very nice house. And they have 40 acres of land. And it's a nice property they got in Connecticut. Isn't that a doctor? Oh, I think a doctor. No, a dentist. A dentist owned the game before. It came from a dentist in New York, this game. I saw a receipt in the game. Some dentist bought it brand new in New York. You want to talk about nice houses? They're not houses.
    92:45
    They're beehives. Multi-floor residences on the beach in Pompano Beach. Guess how much the starting price of a brand new building going up in Pompano Beach. Guess what the starting price of one, it might be a two-bedroom in a high-rise. And this is on a beach. On a beach. 1.2 mil. 1.7 million to start. But that's not the one I want to talk about. Chance and I took this long walk down by the fish pier in Pompano Beach. We came upon this brand new building being built. And they have on the fence, you know, like a wrap so you can't see what they're doing. And they got pictures of what it's going to look like. You know, artist rendering. I don't know how many units were in the building. I'm going to say eight.
    93:41
    Each one with its own private pool. There were five residences along the beach. Some of them were street, but five faced the beach. With its own pool. This was absolutely gorgeous. Take a swing at how much one of those is. It blew me away.
    94:06
    3.5 mil? That's what they cost a year ago. If you wanted to buy it now... All right, 4.5. $7.5 million.
    94:21
    That's nothing. We took a drive from Pompano up to Delray. It's about a half an hour ride. We get over the bridge, and I look to my right, and there's an open piece of property on the water without a house in it. So later on, I went and did my Zillow look. $15 million for a raw piece of property. Wow. It's, as far as you can see in each direction these things are, it's nuts. Florida is open for business and it is out of control. But wait a minute, isn't Florida at sea level?
    94:58
    It's all good until a big storm comes a knocking. Well, hold on. According to science, the climate change and stuff, it's all going to be underwater, so they probably can't get insurance for those houses. Well, if you're on one of those upper floors, you're okay. Okay. Oh, no, no, no. There's been studies on insurance for homes, even inland. Yeah. Guy said his insurance bill year over year doubled, and they're expecting next year the same thing. So his, it was like $2,500. It went to $5,000. And he thinks, this isn't an inland home. This isn't even on the water. He's thinking that to insure a home inland in Florida is going to be close to $10,000.
    95:39
    Insurance companies are leaving left and right. It's a problem. Well, because of what, storms? Yeah. Well, think of the payout. Think of this last one that hit, the West Coast. Right. Think of how much money those insurance companies are going to be paying out over time. I don't think if Al Gore was correct with the urgent alert and we had climate change that's going to be underwater, they wouldn't give, if I was an insurance company, I wouldn't give any insurance on it because I'm going to lose. If they're still writing a policy, they're going to win. In Mata's Vineyard. In Mata's Vineyard, too. Anyway. I digress. So, I digress. What else you got? Okay. So, how about some listener mail?
    96:15
    I'm always up for that. Okay. They like you. They do. They fear me. I'm the good cop. Yeah. Sometimes. Sure you are. So, folks, this is more a fan of my biz, not really the podcast. Okay.
    96:34
    So, Dave, my name is Patrick Baldwin. I currently work for Rob Burke. I know who he is. Okay. Out in Chicago. Explain. He runs the Chicago Expo every October. Right. I've never been. Have you ever been? Never been. Okay. So, I currently work for Rob Burke in his new arcade endeavor, Past Times Arcade. Right there, new logo.
    96:58
    Once we open, I will be the floor manager during operating hours. I've worked on EMs for two years until being hired by Rob. Until we do open, one of my responsibilities is to fully shop out all of Solace Fate and DMD games. Good luck. I'm taking a long freaking time doing it right. I pretty much do everything except board work. We have a gentleman that specializes in that. I've been... Oh, he actually is a fan of the podcast. I take that back. There's a little of both. I've been listening to your podcast. One of the best ones out there, he says. Okay? So there you go. How's that? Listen up people. You're very smart who listen. Yes. And all you other non-followers.
    97:37
    I'm pissed. Sorry. Well, if you know about us, you like us. If you don't, you don't. So one of the best ones out there, I must say. And I've heard you talking about day spas. I was curious what all goes into your day spa and if They actually just take a day. In fact, I also have a new website that's launched just today. I was going to ask you about that. Give them the info. So new website out there. It's revamped. It looks great. Well, tell them the URL. Tell them the website. It's pinballdoctor.com, all spelled out. Say it again. It's pinballdoctor.com. Okay. So check that out. He said, I heard about day spas. Do they really take a day? Right now, I've been completely depopulating play fields with photo documentation and process. I don't forget where things go. Cleaning, doing touch-ups, waxing, cleaning plastic, new runners. Changed over to all of these. Replacing any... Oh, we got a mouse over there. The mouse is back in the house. There she goes. Boy.
    98:39
    Let's see. Replacing broken ramps, trying to get the silver metal parts. So we did a lot of stuff. We're cleaning solenoids, replacing clothes, blah, blah, blah, fixing. It's been taking me anywhere between 40 to 60 hours to complete one machine, depending on how... He's going to be there forever. You are going to be there... Is this arcade in or near Chicago somewhere? Yes, yes. Okay. He's going to be there forever. To do this, he's doing the right thing. 40 to 60 hours is about right to do a complete shop out in the day spa on these things.
    99:05
    I know you've been repairing and restoring machines for a long time, so I thought I'd reach out to you to see if this is the amount of time that is normal. Yes, it is. Or if I'm taking an exorbitant amount of time to complete one machine. No, you're not. You're doing just right. With the sheer amount of machines Rob's arcade is going to hold, doing one machine per week isn't really going to get the job done.
    99:23
    As Brennan says, he needs to hire more. You know the back story of Expo over the last couple years, right? Not 22, but the years prior. Yeah, yeah. Rob would bring all his games to Expo to fill the Expo hall. Right. And those games were... Not so good? Need a little help? Yeah. He needed a test. I didn't say that because I've never been, but through all the podcasts, more than one. Right. So he's got his work cut out. So that's where this guy is saying, I'm going to do all these games over. So when I reach out to you, I'm taking an exorbitant amount of time, completing machines, so our crew's going to do a whole bunch of games. So, do you have any tips or tricks to your process that has helped you complete machines in a faster time frame? Yeah, don't sleep. I am on track with my speed. I am on track with my speed compared to how long it takes you to do. Am I on track with speed with how long it takes you to do the same sort of thing? Any advice and suggestions you may have for me would be greatly appreciated. I have one. Patrick Bowen, floor manager, Path Times Arcade. I have one. Get an assistant. Or two. Or five. Right. Get some volunteers. I know what they're doing. Let them have free reign to come in any time at no cost. Get people to volunteer. Yeah. Because there's no way. No way. Just the cleaning. Forget about the fixing. Yeah, everything. The cleaning. Way over your head. Right. I'm getting stressed out just thinking about it. I'm thinking about it, too, and I have a game that I want to take apart. I've got other things to do because I just came back home and found an eight-foot-tall pile of snow at the end of my driveway blocking access to my propane tank.
    101:17
    Yeah. It shouldn't have been put there. And now it's a solid frozen mess. Did Georgie make a phone call? I didn't. Janice hired this guy. Oh. But they're a big company, and they're a landscaping company. He also trashed the wall, the retaining wall. Oh, I saw that. Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. They're on the hook for some stuff. When I get home tonight, I'll hear the story, and maybe I'll tell you what the resolve is. Was there yelling involved? No, no, no. I was really calm because what am I going to do? It's done. I couldn't. I mean, the snow was so heavy here. Right. It must weigh 9 billion pounds. How much snow do you have up there?
    101:58
    There was probably a good six inches. frozen... So we have nothing here compared to you. Oh, no, no, no. Not even close. Okay. I mean, it's supposed to... You heard the opening, folks. Yeah. If this is part one, two, three, or four, it's supposed to snow today, so... Two to four down here. But we're already two hours into this. Right. And we're... You'll get the... So I'll give... There's a lot of stuff to cover. So I'll give my response back to Patrick. So I said, Good evening, Patrick. Pleasure to have you as a fan of our show. I sold my Keeper, and you were talking about Stern Cheetah a second ago. I sold my keeper pristine Stern Cheetah with new all-stock plate field, automotive clear-cut by Bill Davis, with a prototype how-to-set-up-to-rom set to Rob a few years ago, after he was begging me for the game. Is that one of the games destined for the arcade? If so, the patrons are in for a classic Stern treat. I've been getting lots of fan mail of late, and I've been asking all the authors, and I will ask you, what do you like best about our podcast? As for our pinball day spot service, yes, we do it in one day. This is the reader's digest version of our in-shop restoration, taking away from 40 to 100 hours to accomplish in our house here in the shop. We bring everything we can for the day spot pertaining to the title when we come on site that will enable us to get it all done in one day, including board sets, flipper rebuilds, et cetera. All GI lights, the common LEDs. We don't do other stuff. We don't do buffing and so forth on site. We build flipper assemblies. I basically go I wanted to tell him all the stuff we do on the game.
    103:30
    And so I said, talk soon, and he let me know. So he wrote back to me, thank you so much for the reply. We do have a beautiful stern sheet out on the floor. Didn't know it was yours. I played it several times. I'm going to assume that it was yours, though. To be honest, Rob doesn't remember what he has most of the time. So if I asked, I'm sure I'd get a blank stare, LOL. When you've purchased some 1,500 games over 40 years, I can't just say blame him for not remembering over the years what he bought where. the best part of your podcast is that you're just two average Joes talking about pinball you don't come across as know-it-alls you aren't vulgar, you give good information, you and George have great chemistry and you talk through the game play and then play it, it's entertaining he said this about us? yes he did, that's why we do it that's why we do it, perfect so this is out of his own mouth that's why we do it so what he says times 100 or 1,000 people, or how many we got. Right. It's entertaining. I listen on my hour commute to the arcade for work, and then I get to look at and play some of the games you just talked about. I've really gained a great appreciation for the classic solid states, thanks to you guys. Based on... So, that's a great feedback for our podcast right now. Right.
    104:44
    If we had, like, a... We should actually... I'd like to put that in... I was going to say, can you put that in a review section on the... whatever? How about you put a placard on the wall in the arcade with our podcast on it? That's good. If you want to learn more about this game, go over to the Classic Pinball Podcast at gmail.com. That's our email.
    105:09
    Whatever your podcatcher is. Speaking of that, on my new website, I have a whole thing about our podcast on there. I'll show you it. And it says, listen to us on these many platforms. Do you know how many platforms we're on on podcasts? is like about 20 different platforms. And I have them all listed on our We need more people to listen on some of those platforms. I'll show you real quick here. I'll pull up my site. Here it is. Okay. So the picture I've seen before of you fixing Paragon. There we go. Let's see.
    105:43
    Podcast. Okay. Yeah, that looks good. Boy, that looks a lot better than your old. Here. Oh, look, you got the fun and games thing. Oh, look at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 20 different. Yeah. Wow.
    106:00
    So she really did a nice job on the thing, see? We need. And we all listen right here, see that? We need more people to listen. Well, once I go to my website, just go to my website, folks, and tell your friends. It's all been revamped. I'm still doing some tweaks to it, but it's a lot better than it was.
    106:16
    So Patrick, again, he said, Thanks for your reply and the information you both provide. I look forward to continuing to listen to your podcast. Just started number 60 tonight on the way home. Oh, so he's behind. He's behind. Oh, so he listened to a lot of the crappy ones. He's going to be getting better and better as he goes. He's going to stay out. Yeah, so that's what he needs. Well, we started off strong. All our early ones, 1 through 10 or 1 through 13, are still strong. But it's hovering through thousands of views and all kinds of stuff. However, it's number six still is my New Jersey one that I did solo. And that is horribly recorded. The content's great. But the guy didn't have... I would love... I want to do another Jersey podcast. Maybe I'll go visit the pinball museum in Asbury Park. That might be a good one. And my old haunt, Barnacle Bills. But I don't even know if they have pinballs there. They might not. It might be a kiddie redemption place. Oh. I don't know. I haven't been. So he has said, I'm going to Allentown again this year, and of course I will be at Expo working for Rob. Hopefully I'll get a chance to meet you and George at Allentown. Absolutely. We're going to have you on the show then. Yep. We'll contact you before. That's up. That'll be here before you know it. And I need to get my reservations in there. Did you... Let talk about shows for a real quick minute One I guessing like me I not putting words in your mouth are you thinking of going to Ohio I think I'm a no. I'm leaning to no. Okay. I got other stuff going on. I do, too. I mean, it's a great show, but the drive it takes to get there. I think we, I'm not sure we're going to do a whole episode, but I certainly want to help promote that show. Yeah, sure. Oh, sure. So we'll contact and get him on again and see what the differences are. But the reason I bring it up is you remember one of the competitors when we were there at Brewfest last year, Lewis Bevins? Yes, yes. I heard somebody on a podcast. He is like Mr. Photographic Memory. He seems the type. He is. It doesn't seem. He is. Yes. So, you know, I called him Blanky. Kind of like Eric Stoneman. No, I know. I didn't see his name on any of the championships, so I don't even know if he competed in the state championships, but a really good player.
    108:48
    Somebody was giving him accolades, and I just focused on him carrying a blanket around. Well, if he wears a cape and he plays D&D.
    108:57
    Oh, wait, maybe not. Sorry. Can I go back? Before I forget, I'm back on your favorite game, James Bond. I want to point out two things. I'm in this gallery. I started saying it, and then I forgot. I'm in this gallery. Actually, Janice went into it first, and she goes, you've got to go see this Batman painting. And I'm like, huh?
    109:23
    I'm like, okay. She goes, there's other stuff there, too. So she drags me back into the gallery, and there's this great oil painting of an old-style TV with Batman and Robin on the TV. Okay. And I don't know about you, but when I go into an art gallery, I never ask the price because I'm always going to be disappointed at how expensive it is. But this guy, J. Scott Nichols, is the painter. I'll say it again. And J. Scott Nichols. Go out and look at his artwork. It's unbelievable. The reason I'm telling people this is, on the wall is this painting. He does like book, like a bookshelf type thing. And each one had a different movie for James Bond. And I said, oh, you should go out on Pinside and advertise that. I bet you sell this in a second. They also do prints, which are a lot less expensive. But the one I saw, I think was $14,000 for an oil painting. The same thing in a print was about $800, which is still very, very expensive. He also does rock and roll stars, movie things, you know, very, you know, classic movie items. Really, really cool. If you're a collector of pinballs, you might like some of his artwork.
    110:57
    Outstanding. A really, really cool guy. The other thing is, we didn't talk about that new... You've got to go to his website. He has a website with all the pictures on it. Scott Nichols Gallery? J. Scott Nichols. You've got to put the J... J. Scott Nichols Musical Legends. I'm in addition, right? Yep, there you go.
    111:15
    J. Scott Nichols Legend of the Silver Spring. He's got a whole thing out there. You've got to dig for it. I found it. I don't know what the website is. It doesn't matter. Go look it up. He's got some really cool things. Maybe it's in images. Look at images. You know, the expensive artwork, you know, especially the new artwork, is when you have a painted white wall, and they call it artwork. Basically, it's a way to launder money, a lot of this artwork, by the way. You launder money. Yeah, you're talking about a certain somebody. But anyway, let's talk about our predictions. I'm still on the James Bond thing. The whole Elwynn game. Remember we were speculating on how much? Guess who came in very close to the price, although not really? Me. I said $18,500 to $20,000. The number was 20, but I said it was going to be the price to the dealer, not the actual price. But you can still go buy that thing. That's not a sellout. No, so there you go. Scooby-Doo. Not a sellout. Of course not. people are well let's bring it up you're still trying to sell your Rush game although it's going to be the winner of you brought it up I didn't the awards program no the other one that Zach Menny's doing the pinball awards or pinball industry awards or Rush is going to be the game number one game of 2022 Oh, good. Okay. So maybe that'll help. Right. Can't hurt. I'll put out there some more. Can't hurt. I did get some offers. Yeah? How big a loan ball?
    112:56
    Well, he wanted to trade, too. He wanted to trade. No trades. Zeke's Peak and a Minty Funhouse that's all done up and so forth, but I didn't need any of those. Plus, maybe no cash. Just those two. I was like, no. Then he's going to throw me a cash offer. Zeke's Peak is the alternative to Ice Cold Beer, right? You know they're going to remake that game, right? No, good idea. Guess how much?
    113:22
    5K? There's not much in there I don't know why you pay 5K but somebody will pay for it. We haven't seen it yet but again, Zach Manning mentioned it in his podcast I thought it was cool. I saw somebody remaking a digger machine but this is old school Digger where it came in a crate and they would set these things up at state fairs. Somebody did a remake with the crate and the Digger machine all in one and it was only like $1,600. I'm like I gotta find this because at the Pinball Museum you'll hear it or people have already heard it. They had the old Gottlieb Digger machine from 1956 I think it is. I don't remember, but I have a soft spot for that because I played it as a kid. It doesn't do anything. All you do is pick up beans and throw them in a hopper and see how much weight you could get. You probably never saw one. There was one down the Cape that was called Clam Digger. It was interesting. We played that one. Remember?
    114:30
    Give me the... Jerk. That's a multi-level joke there. Okay. What else do you have on that sheet of paper? I know. I'm not orange anymore. Now I'm red. Now you're red. You're red man bad is what you are. No, thank you. You're welcome. Oh, I know. I got a call from a guy in Concord, Mass. Who just yesterday, an old house, nice property. 300-year-old property, old farmhouse, had a couple games in there, bought brand new.
    115:16
    One of them he got rid of somewhere, but this one here, I was like, oh, you know, basically, can you come get this game? Sure. Oh, come on. The basket again? I'll help you. I'll hate you. All right. So maybe everybody cringe. What game?
    115:37
    It's a... Morgan is a... I can... Please. I'll do my thing with it. So, again, going with the theme of whodunit, it's from the same generation of whodunit. It's called a World Cup Soccer.
    115:50
    Oh, not the... Not the... Go! Yeah, that one. Go! Free? Well, you know. Sort of free? Sort of free. Kind of. Close to free. Everybody wants that game. Well, now they can come to me because I'm going to make this thing as home use only.
    116:04
    And I'm going... And I'm going to make it, I'm going to Dr. Dave optimize it too. I like that game. My cousin called me years ago, at least 10 years ago, it might even be more. And they were going for about $1,900, $1,800. How long ago? Over 10 years ago. Okay, yeah. No, not recently. But I talked to my cousin on a regular basis, and I said, you know, you made a mistake not buying. They bopped. They're like, you know, $1,800, $2,000, you know, no. I said, do you know how much that game is now if you want to buy one? And just a regular one without a donut. Four grand all day. All day. Wow. And more if it's in really good shape. Okay. That's a good game. Great game. I look forward to it. And the owner was a sweet guy. Nice guy. So we're going to do a show on that at some point. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This guy is a real sweet guy. Okay. He was a tremendous friend's help. I had my friend Justin over to help get it out there. Had to get a narrow staircase up out of a basement. But, yeah, he was amazed that I actually, you know. I look forward to that. So let me focus. Oh, by the way, check this out. I looked over at the lounge chair. Oh, yeah. I'll take the lounge chair in a second. Okay. So I said, okay, before we even take this thing apart, sir, let me look at the battery. I'm sure there's, like, battery rocks. There's batteries in it. It's like, oh, boy. So these are the batteries. These are the original batteries. Look at those batteries. Industrial.
    117:36
    30-year-old batteries, nothing wrong with them. There's nothing wrong with them. No, not rotted. Why? They're made in USA. That's why. Not the Chinese ones from Duracell and nobody else. Industrial Ever Ready? I've never even seen that. I have a battery story. My friend Jack, who people have heard about before, a pinball guy in New Jersey, lost all his games in the Great Hurricane. He bought a light for, he collects antique bicycles for an old Schwinn.
    118:08
    And this bike light horn, I don't know, I think it had a horn in it too, had two old D-cell batteries in it. From the 50s. Right. And they were corroded. No, they were corroded, but they had a certain brand on it. Yeah.
    118:27
    He sold those two corroded batteries for $20 to some battery. There's a battery collector. Wow. I swear. Maybe I can sell these to that guy.
    118:38
    Maybe. I'll ask Jack. I mean, don't throw them away. They might be worth it. Is that not? People collect everything. Everything.
    118:52
    Batteries. Who knew? I didn't know. So it's a crazy question. He's like, I bought this thing. I overpaid by a little bit, but I saw this thing online when I was searching for something else. And the guy's like, if you've got old batteries, contact me. The guy threw a price out. He goes, okay, fine. Just pay the shipping. He put $20 in his pocket for doing nothing, going to the post office. I thought it was great. Wow. Right. Oh, this guy.
    119:19
    I didn't contact that battery guy. Sounds interesting. Does he have also an oil can collection, too? No, but that's the thing. What's his face on TV who got booted? That show is totally different now. That show is just... Yeah, that show jumped the shark. Like, Constance jumped the shark. But it jumped the shark. Yeah, it did. It used to be good. Yeah. And then now they got all... Who's it? Jersey John, the Harley expert out of Jersey. Yeah. You know, he's now part of it. And what's her name? Danielle? Yeah, the roller derby queen that hasn't made a tattoo she doesn't like. Right. The pinball guy in the ham shirt was on that show. Oh, Pinball Guy in New Hampshire was on the show. What's the guy's name, Pinball Guy in New Hampshire? Can we, I was going to, oh, I never knew that. Yeah, no, we know somebody that was on the show. We're going to contact him. We'll look it up. I have to look and figure who that is. I'll look it up. So back to this guy. So sweetheart guy, him and his friend helped get it out of there and help us hoist it out. And the whole house was this, you know, again, old farmers from the 1700s.
    120:20
    Still all original. The floors were these wide pine hand hewn floors. he had to go, he got a second part of the house, he'd get it from Northfield Mass and brought it over and put it on a foundation to add to his house to make more farmhouse kind of things to add to his farmhouse and his farmland and he did this like old daybed thing from 1720 or whatever that it had the letter looks still good on it, it's like oh the letter was all kind of getting dusty and rotted so he wanted to make it back to new again so he found, I don't know how he found this He found some Siberian deer skin leather that was in the bottom of the ocean floor in a shipwreck for over 200 years in perfect shape that someone hauled out of a shipwreck. I'm not surprised by that. And it worked great. It looked like brand-new leather. I touched it. It's like, wow, it's amazing, brand-new leather. But it's amazing. It was salt. Salt water preserves. It irritates.
    121:19
    Obviously not to leather. It preserves. and it influences your taste buds. It enhances flavor. So it's kind of like our podcast, George. We irritate, we preserve, and we enhance the flavor.
    121:33
    We're the Salt of the Earth podcast. Oh, oh. Where's the fog light? I've got to focus you. Because everybody wants to hear this. tell us a story about a recent repair.
    121:56
    I know you told us about the chips and some of the other stuff. I know. Oh, you got a Xenon story. I got a Xenon story. I need something for the podcast. Well, the one about Alvin G was a good one. I'll put that in there. That was a good one. That was MacGyver-ing time. That was the best one. the other ones in here let me look here and get that one i mean it seems that people oh i know all right here's one okay so okay so you got one yeah but this isn't really uh the biggest tech one was that alvin g because i kind of pulled right out of the hat with that one to get what that one worked that was that was my crowning achievement for the month so you got something else so the other stuff um xenon that haven't seen love over 20 years hadn't worked he had for 20 years hadn't worked in the past 10 years.
    122:46
    That's a 100-year-old house. Yeah, a 100-year-old house. It was down in Dartmouth, right in the water. How was the play field? Play field was nice. Okay, usually they're burned out. Someone was in there, some tech wannabe, of course. I love getting tech wannabe. They put, instead of high-current switches for the flipper buttons, they put in video game switches, like you're going to play Asteroids and hit the little flipper button. It's like a 5-volt switch. They took those out and put these in there.
    123:14
    And it's like, you know, so they worked fine. I left them alone because I had so much other work to do in the game. So it was also missing the switch, the tube switch that when you go up there, it goes, ooh.
    123:27
    Do you use a magnetic switch? I didn't have one. And then I started looking at my switches like, well, I got something that could kind of work. But then I realized I'm trying to find something that would work. it would work, and I go, wait a minute, this thing is missing the little LED tube light thing anyway. It's not even there. It's missing it. All that Switch does is light that tube up and go, ooh, and make the lights all go crazy. It doesn't give you any points, nothing. It's just for effect. The Switch was gone, and that was gone. I said, okay, well, I'm not going to worry about it. So I didn't do any of that stuff. I didn't have any of that stuff with me. But I got the game to work again. I put a new MPU in it.
    124:02
    I had an extra... That was the saucer. The ball coming down the ramp from the tube into the saucer. Did that work properly? That worked properly. That worked great. Yeah, that worked great. You know, because sometimes you need some extra rubbers down there, kind of tweak it up a little bit to make it work right. No. Okay. No, you know what? No, I have a fix for that. No, not extra rubbers. No, I do something to make that so it slows down and goes right through. Right. No, I have a fix for that. I did that at my Xenon years ago. You just add a, you had a little metal post like from Gottlieb we did years ago, Those little thin little things look like a nail that goes in right out. So it kind of bangs off that. Right, and slows everything down. Slows it all down and drops in there. So that's an easy fix for that one.
    124:44
    What else did we do? We did, let's see. Oh, a toy box story. So I went to go see this Stern Simpsons game. Give it a day spa. Talk about toy box. Every conceivable toy, all the characters in the game. It looks like someone took the Toys R Us to go to the Simpsons section and dumped it in the bin. This is the Stern. Stern Simpsons Pinball Party. The one that. From 2003. Right. The one with the couch. The couch. And Moe. Yeah, all of them. And the Homer head. Yeah, yeah. It had all that in one. So he had all his dolls and dishes in there? All the dolls in a row. And a topper. A lit up topper. Homemade topper? He bought it from somewhere. Someone had this thing. Was it Homer? It was Homer. Lit up. I think it was a lit up one. The Homer head? Yep. No, no. Was it Homer? No, it wasn't his name. It was Bart. I think it was Bart with his thingy-something.
    125:36
    So there was tons of that. And of course the... What was wrong with that? That was... That was just he needed just a go-over, right? Was anything really wrong with that game?
    125:51
    Just needed to play better? Yeah, I guess he needed to play better. Let me take a quick look at my little thingy-jiggy here. What did we do over there? We did... Where is Mr. Simpson? Simpsons, Simpsons, Simpsons.
    126:03
    Simpsons, Simpsons, Simpsons. Oh, here it is. Simpsons. We did... Oh, Sticky Flipper. So basically you need to flip a rebuild. That's the basic one you need. But then on top of that, I went and did everything else.
    126:16
    Had the wrong coil. No, it's a different game. No, then we... Oh, another fix. Oh, yeah. Okay, another good one. Here's a good tech one. So, went to go fix a Star Trek Next Generation for this woman down in Sharon in mass. And she likes me to come there every year to give like a little refresh every year. Not a day spa, but many days. Because I've already done a day spa. So every year I go back and tweak it, clean it. A couple issues here and they come up. So this one was spitting out an extra ball or two to the sugar land. Like two balls instead of like one ball.
    126:56
    Intermittently. It's like, okay, sounds like a trough issue. So, basically, I already I think I already put a new trough board in. This has Optos and I already put a trough board in before. So, let's see what's going on. So, basically, I put it on switch test. I wiggled the wires going to the trough board and all of a sudden, it went bing, bing, bing, bing. It started like going on, off, on, off, on, off with wiggling the wires. I said, okay, this stupid IDC insulation displacement connector. I hit the ugly head again. Oh, stop. And crap all over. You know how much I hate those. But I usually have pretty good luck with them in stock games. But when they're really tiny, the 1-5-6 with the really extra thin wires, that's when you get a problem. And that's what these had. So I replaced all that junk. Right, because there's not enough contact. There's not enough contact and it gets all rotted out. So did all of it there. That was gorgeous again. And I said, well, you also have a neutral zone.
    127:48
    It always gets chewed up around there. And I happen to have a couple spare clippies. I keep clippies on hand. I say, how about a nice clippie? and she said, I love when you come work on my game. You always have all the toys in the corner. You always have all the extra stuff. I love when you do all your touches to the game. So I put that in there. Oh, and then I noticed, I didn't notice, the past couple of years I did not notice this until I've, it's always a learning thing. You're always learning things. I said, you know, why aren't these flippers like super strong? Like you had to really get it just right to go up all the shot, always have play field and upper ramp. You had to make the shot right in the sweet spot to get it. It was like super hard. I noticed in the software, these games will complain Williams and Ballet from the 1990s will say they'll complain about a switch not being hit after it's not hit for a certain amount of time or a certain amount of game time, and say the switch must be broken because you can't suck that much as a player not to hit these switches so the switches that were not being hit were the Borg Lock switches to lock a ball, meaning she has never gotten Borg Lock multiball forever on this game you definitely should get it once in a while to play the game so I said, do you ever get Borg Lock multiball? Oh no, it can never get up there and it's like, well, that's why you get the switch errors. Let me see what's going on. I researched what coils she should have in the game. Someone put a regular Williams coil, a standard one in these games. Lesser, rather than more. Lesser power. It's supposed to, like regular power, these are supposed to have power to go up ramps and long play field shots as the next one up. So I said, I have those. I put those in the game. What a difference. Now you can make those ramp shots. So she was like, oh, goody, I can't wait. But you never noticed it before? Nope. I never noticed it before.
    129:25
    You're getting better. I'm getting better. But on top of that, people have certain things in their laundry list that need to be done. So I'm doing their laundry list. After all, I get tired over the time. It's like, okay, fix your stuff. Clean it up. It's playing well. And I wasn't looking for more to do because I'm – on top of that, I think she was out of money. Not out of the money, but basically she said, I've got to run. What's the damage? So I have to basically – I don't like doing this. I don't like making a guess until I'm finally done. It's like, well, I think we're at this, but I've got more to do. So I guessed at what it was, and this was the time before, and I wound up doing more work than what the payment was. It's like, well, I'm not doing that again. This time it's like, when I'm done, I'll let you know the price, so I'll wait here for me to get back. So now this time I had time to more look at it, and I got the coils. So now the game plays fantastic. So that was a multiple thing. Wrong coils from a different, from the standard Williams game from that time frame, and the IDC connectors were bad on that game. So that's a good little tech fix there. is this a good time for us to break and go down to the basement George we never do that we haven't in a while and you know that the whodunit has a basement yes you told me about the elevator I'm going to reinforce that basement in fact you know our friend PJ when he comes over he gets off every Tuesday it's kind of a hooky day for both of us and when he comes over and he says, down to the basement, he's always singing it. Then we go downstairs and play in the basement.
    130:59
    That song was dug up because of my sister. Why is that? Because she used to live in the basement. Oh, okay. That's how you got the song?
    131:11
    A friend of mine from an old work said, you know there's a song called Down in the Basement, right? She was older than I am.
    131:22
    And I said no, and I went and researched it. And I said, oh, this is great. So I knew of the song, and so when we started doing the podcast, I'm like, oh, this song's perfect. Because we always go down in the basement, whether it's your house or my house. Yeah. And we happened to go to my house, because we've got some games we've got to do. You know what? Some ballet games that people probably are like, these guys talk about those games all the time. When the F are they going to get to them? Well, we're going to get to them. We've got Embryon and Skateball. Two biggies that people want to hear. I have an Embryon. I've got to do a day sparring Embryon coming up soon. Okay. I also, I got a call up in New Hampshire for a Lost World, but not the Lost Cause, like the mid-80s. Oh, is that the data east? No, it's a valley. It's a valley from the time of not-so-good pinball machine manufacturing, 6803 series. that was kind of like, Pimol was dying, and this is when they put these games out. Okay. So I still get, I have so many calls to schedule. I get so many people emailing me. So things are not soft. No. People continue to spend. Continue, and suspend. They might not be buying new games, but they're... No, they're buying new games, too. Yeah? The whodunit's going, and the... No, what I mean, new games. Oh, currently? No, I'm not buying those. No, because who wants a frickin' QR code? It's stupid.
    132:42
    You'll never get beyond that, will you? I can't even. It was the biggest mistake they ever did. You're trying to cater to a 15-year-old audience. You're probably not going to like that brewery I talked about, Ocelot. Because they have a tote board. With a QR code and you scan it in order? Well, they have tournaments or they have, I guess, some kind of monthly event where, hey, high scores on these games get something. I'm sure a free beer or a t-shirt or something. But, yeah. I mean, it's a big thing for on, you know. You know, Stern is going to be doing a... On-site play. Stern's going to do a vault edition. It's going to be Star Wars Episode I. And instead of having the game say, push start and use your flippers, it's going to say, scan your QR code and use your flippers.
    133:34
    You know? Hold on. You really do not like... You suck at me every time. I do suck every time. You do. You do. Anyway, let's conclude this portion. I don't know how the heck I'm going to hack this thing up. This is going to be like part nine. This portion of the Dr. Dave and George show is brought to you by QR Codes or Us.
    134:02
    You like them, hate them, we got them. Oh, stop. Go ahead, George. You know what that means? That's popping of the can top that's better than the popping of corn pop.
    134:22
    Okay, Dave. Here we go. What do we got? We're going to try a beer from Tampa, Florida. Is it called Corn Pop Brewing? No, it's not. It's called Cigar City Brewing. The name of the beer, I talked about it earlier, is called, oh, no, I didn't talk about it, Florida Man. This is supposedly a double India pale ale. You tell me what you think. First impressions. That corn pop, he was a bad dude. I know you're not a big juicy IPA guy. He's a bad guy. But you know I am. So you tell me if you like this or not.
    134:58
    You know, it's not bad. No, it's not bad. It's decent. It's a decent IPA. Right. I've had worse. Right, but it's not. Cheers. It's not great. Happy New Year. Here's to good friends Tonight is kind of special What is that one from? Michelob? Mm-hmm Okay You know what? I always wanted to get Let's go We can have some beers We'll go to the beach We'll get on a fire With some of that stone crab Like in that commercial from years ago Stone crab Yeah On a fire At the restaurant we went to We went to Shooter's On the intercoastal waterway Great place to have a meal Not cheap Two stone crab claws Thirty-five bucks I think it was even more than that No way. Boy, that Michelob commercial was a lot cheaper than that. They're hanging some guys having some crappy beer, and they're getting drunk. But the food was really good there. So if you are in Fort Lauderdale, that's a good place. Hold on to your wallet. It's not cheap, but it was good. Wow. I'd rather have good than cheap. So we're standing in front of whodunit, a murder mystery. Yes. Check it out, George. What do you think? You know what I'm going to say. I'm going to say it's beautiful, as always. This is a really nice-looking game. Now, I'm going to put my head down No, there is no There's no Mylar on this, is there? No, no A couple spots, I think Wow, that is That's a nice looking game I checked a coin meter on this game Someone put a physical coin meter in this game Guess how many plays are in this game? 1,300 You're way down, way low 35,000 Still way low More than 35,000 How many? 143,000 plays No way. That's what it says. Unless they put a used one. If you put $143,000 on almost any other game, it wouldn't look like this.
    136:43
    Clear. What do you think of the clear? I don't even. You call those ramp? I guess it's a ramp. Which one? Well, these clear. Those are ramps, yeah.
    136:54
    Do you like them? Do I like them as in? Well, compared to wire forms. Wire forms are better because they're not going to break like these. case in point, the left exit here, you shoot the ball up around the little train thing all the way around it comes rocketing down here. This is supposed to have one of these, I call it a ball break. At the end of the ramp I've had that happen before. It breaks your ball. It hurts. So ball break, see the ball break right there and that? There's supposed to be one here. It's missing, it broke off. So I didn't know that. Oh, it's like a U. It's so the ball doesn't keep going. Well, I shot the ball up there without anything on there. It went zoom, banged off this one right down the middle. It's like, that ain't right. That's no way. So I looked at the game online and said, okay, it's missing that. It broke off. No one to be found inside the game. Someone broke it off and just left it off, and where the heck did it go? So I go, what am I going to do? They don't make this ramp anymore. They make the three ramps in the middle. I see what you did. That's pretty good.
    137:56
    So the guy who I got to transform for the Williams game I did recently, Remember that guy, Mark, down in Rhode Island? Yes. He gave me a bad cat's ramp that was kind of junky but usable.
    138:07
    This was on that at the end of the ramp, so I stole this off that ramp. I wasn't going to use the ramp anyway because it's cracked. And I finagled it on. Again, another MacGyver situation. I MacGyvered it on there. I drilled a hole. I punched a hole in this plastic, put a little post there, put a post there, mint solids. And now I made my own ball break there. It looks factory. Yeah, no, that's good. This is my little, like my cab? I do like that. That's a nice mod. Let's talk about the game itself. So, again, I'm going to give kudos to the person who wrote this. What is his name? Scott R. Tisma.
    138:47
    So he's got all the listing of all the features in this game. Flippers. Left out lane. Left in lane. Left flingshot. Mode start saucer super skill shot lucky lock. What is that? Lucky lock. I know what lucky lock is. I haven't done that yet. Lucky lock. It's a lucky lock. Okay. Well, he's got that in here. Okay. Mystery target.
    139:09
    Taxi targets. Yeah. Left orbit. Yeah. Red stand-up target. A phone. The elevator. So this elevator has a diverter in it? Yeah. Or does it come up? Oh, I see. Yeah. It's a three-bank stand-up thing that goes up and down like Black Knight 2000. So it'll go either into the left ramp, the center ramp, or the right ramp. Well, first of all, when the gate is down underneath, you can go right up there. But the thing that comes up is three standards on the automatic up and down thing. Okay, well, we'll see that when it comes up.
    139:43
    Name hole. A hole directly behind the elevator, which the ball will usually fall into after being in the bumpers. Up over here. Okay. Yep. Right ramp, a.k.a. the train loop, right orbit, a.k.a. the right taxi chase. Yep. So underneath, it's up and down. This thing goes up and down. So it's up, taxi, down, train on the right there. This game's got a lot of stuff in it. A lot of stuff on it, yeah.
    140:10
    Black stand-up target. That would be this guy right here. Okay. In front of Tony's Palace. Right. The roulette wheel, which is in the upper right. Upper right, up there. A spinner located in the roulette lane. Yeah, right there. Okay, right before it.
    140:29
    Sewer hole. A hole directly to the right of the roulette entrance. Right there. Okay. On the right. Penthouse key targets. Hmm. Oh, it's the targets with the up and down gate. Okay. Yeah. Is that what it says? A set of two targets directly below the sewer. Oh, two targets. Oh, sorry, they're over here. Okay, okay. I don't know what those do. What do those do? It doesn't say. They're in startup. Plunger lane, exit plunger lane, right out lane, right in lane, left swing shot. Sky does a really good job. He puts a lot of stuff in there.
    141:03
    We've talked about the midnight, what is it called, the midnight? Midnight Madness. I don't know. I can't find what I read, but I thought it had something to do with pressing flippers, but whatever. I can't find it, so I'm probably wrong. You want to get underway with this? This is a really nice-looking game. Tony's going to be happy. We talked about Tony earlier. Well, it's Tony's palace, after all. Tony, the 91-year-old, he has Taxi as well? And a Bad Cats. Oh, okay. That'll be a nice game, Bad Cats. Those are the three of them? Those two and this one he's going to get. Okay, cool. He was going to actually want me to get him a Doctor Who, but I said, how about, and I have one, but how about a Whodunit? He likes a lot of Who stuff. I guess. But he definitely doesn't want any CDC thing. Just the who. Okay.
    141:51
    He's slipping it in. I do. I slip it right in. I'll be gentle. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about the floor modes. There are 11 floor modes accessible via the elevator. They are, and their reward modes are, the basement is the three-ball multi-ball, the Main floor, how does it distinguish what floor you're on? It shows you right on there. Oh, so you've got to look at the DMD. On that color DMD, Stazzy. Yeah, that looks really nice, too.
    142:22
    Main floor, light shots and roulette. Second floor, four taxi letters. Third floor, evidence versus whodunit. Fourth floor, slots. Fifth floor, how do you advance modes? Do slots go with the penthouse key? Oh, he said slots. I'm sorry. No, slots, not slots. Oh, okay. Slots. Slots, not slots. Oh, okay. Got it. Fifth floor, interrogate the suspect and doctor versus who done it. Is that what they call it? Doctor versus who done it. Interrogate suspect versus who done it. Are they in the penthouse?
    142:51
    No. Award a piece of equipment is the sixth floor. Seventh floor is elevator madness. Eighth floor is blank.
    143:00
    That's weird. Penthouse is the penthouse party, and the roof is catch the killer. Penthouse party. Sounds good. Yeah, penthouse. Is there a champagne room there? Wasn't that a TV show? I think so. Oh, no, that was Playboy Party. No, Playboy After Dark. Yeah. Close enough. Right.
    143:18
    Why don't you fire it up? I'm going to ask you to play a game first and kind of showcase what's going on here because... You're like a showcase showdown. I've never played this before, so I want to kind of comment as we're going along. All right. So Dave's comment. Sure. No, I'm not stepping on him, guys. We're going to go interactive back and forth. I know that's not... Not what you're supposed to do in a podcast, but I don't care. Right. And, you know, we're not cookie cutter here. No, we're not. We're not going to talk about James Bond. So beer, not bad. I have to talk about another Florida beer. So there's this place in Florida called Flanagan's.
    143:54
    Okay. It's born out of the roots of a liquor store called Big Daddy's. Italian? No. Nope. Big Daddy.
    144:05
    Don't get me off track. So Big Daddy's used to be a liquor store with a bar in it. So the front of the store was a liquor store. The back was a lounge. These were prevalent during the late 70s, early 80s. Somebody got the epiphany to turn all these liquor stores into restaurants, and so Flanagan's was born. It reminds me of a Florida version of the 99, which is prevalent here in New England.
    144:34
    Long story short, I had their house beer, because it came with my 1899 prime rib dinner. Was that good? For 19 bucks? It can't be that good. It was okay. It's not like going to my brother-in-law's steakhouse, but it was good. Was it a beyond meat situation? No, it was good. I mean, it was needled beef. It was okay. But they give you a beer as part of your meal. So it's Flanagan's home brew.
    145:00
    Oh, boy. Yeah? How was that? I said, well, is it like Budweiser or Miller Lite? Oh, no, it's better. Oh, no, it's not. No. It's not that it was worse. It was. It was yellow. I'm not used to drinking that. Janice drank it, and she basically almost spit it out. It was that bad. She doesn't drink beer, does she? Well, she always sips on the IPAs because she likes that, you know, that citrusy. She has a New England style. Right. Oh, she was like, you're not going to drink that, all right? That's what she said to me. She goes, you're not going to drink that, all right? They go, yeah, force it down. I drank like half of it. It was not real good. So anyway, so Flanagan's. But let's get us going and tell us a little bit about the game as we play.
    145:48
    I put a subwoofer on this thing, too. So you can do novice. Hill level is novice or regular. So we'll go regular. Novice means you're guaranteed some time. You're not going to lose the ball. We're going to go regular. Okay. Case number one I think one thing that you should do while we're playing And trying to overcome the stones You're going to probably have to talk louder And then I was on the case I go with Cardano Yeah that might be good So is Nick Spade a made up character For this game That's his name right Uh Nick Spade yes Is it a made up character It's like Sam Spade Nick Spade, yeah. I think that's his name.
    146:31
    Boy, that's... D&D is great looking. Isn't it nice? Was that in the game, or did you put that in? I put that in. Yeah. I put that in. How about the mirror blades? I put these in, too. The game is really sexy looking. Mirrors, that's me. I can't believe it has that many players on it. Seriously. Yeah. I cleaned up... How about the post? The post? See those? The red post? That looks real good, too. I like that look. Yeah, I like that look. I might do that for one of my games. On certain games, it's nice. And you actually can dial it. Well, you said you did it to a Bobby Orr, which is, again, the game I was thinking of putting it on. No, I didn't do it to Bobby Orr. I did Bobby Orr LEDs. Oh, okay. Just warm. Just warm here. Okay. But not that far. I did warm here. Gotcha. So right now I'm doing the skill shots, those taxi. You kind of, if you're going to. So to the left of the taxi lane, there are four targets. Yeah, taxi. So each one. So if you just shoot the ball, it's going to be going like this. So are you trying to hit the lit letter? You want to hit the lit letter. So if you do A, it's a new clue. X is double bonus. You'll get two bonus multipliers for that.
    147:35
    Light roulette wheel. Oh, okay. So hitting one of those targets activates a feature in the game. Right. So you can choose your skill shot. That's cool. So X and A is pretty much the easiest to go for. So I'm going to go for the X here.
    147:51
    And I got it. Oh, so this has a shooter lane like a skateboard. It's a short shooter lane that goes across the playfield. Oh, okay.
    148:07
    You know what this says? Batman. I got it. Sound familiar? Yeah, that's the Batman song. Yeah, Batman song. Right. Batman.
    148:15
    Is it Peter Gunn music? Yeah, that's Peter Gunn. That's right. Take a cap. Okay. Okay, so mystery is watching. There you go.
    148:24
    Oh, look at that. Oh, the game stops. Oh, yeah. Oh, the action. Oh, multi-ball. Oh, ready multi-ball. Look at the color. That goes for a long time, Dave. What does?
    148:36
    How do you stop the slot machine? Or does it stop on its own? No, because right now I think your middle multi-ball is trying to stop the slot. Maybe hit the skill shot, maybe.
    148:46
    Ask a ramper about that. Well, I'm waiting for you to hit something to stop it, and the center one keeps going.
    148:56
    Does it have to do with the left? It's got to do with those ramps. It's got to. So if you've got that, see, keep getting to the left. If you get it in the center one, that one, that stops it. So that's the way it works. So now all those targets came back up in the elevator, and now they just went down. Wow, this game's got a lot of stuff going on at once. Right? See? It stopped. Okay, I see.
    149:22
    As always, you fix the game. You haven't put a lot of time on it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they're used to that.
    149:31
    Oh, I sucked it in. Wow. Okay, so you have multiple all going. It looks like a fun game. It's a fun game. It's a blast.
    149:42
    The play's nice. I want to see this phone thing light up, and it talks? Oh, it talks, yeah. It gives you clues. It does.
    149:52
    So we haven't heard any talking yet other than me, and I'll shut up for a minute. Well, there's a phone. Okay, so the phone, I can't. Hold on. So you have to get it in the taxi lane in order to get the phone to answer? No, you think it's the phone.
    150:08
    Oh, I'm going to get the phone in. Let's see if I can get the phone. No, you can get that one. How about that one?
    150:14
    Taxi? Yeah. Okay, so you're on the fifth floor. The flipper says to pick the suspect. How did you get to the fifth floor? I kept going up and down this here and exit there. So we kept going. I guess the subject. We're going to the basement, I think, or something. What are we doing? Penthouse? Open the roof. We're going to the roof. Shoot flashing lane to catch. He's going to catch the killer. So how do you... How do you catch the killer? How do you tell them what person... I got to shoot the phone. Darn it, I lost the ball. That was quick. Bang, bang, bang. End of ball bonus.
    150:48
    There's a lot of stuff going on here. Okay, so now the elevator is wide open, and it's blinking taxi in the middle. And the phone's ringing. The phone's ringing. Let's get the phone. Okay, cool.
    151:01
    Okay, so we just got it in the center lane. The targets came up. Revolver. Get the cab. So you need to shoot that lane, and you didn't do it again. Drano, let's go to the right.
    151:15
    Okay, we're going to play a game after this together. Okay, I'm going to go for X. There. Batman. Okay. There's the red phone. Oh, eighth chord. Elevator magic. All right, here we go. So what does that do? That's going up the elevator, see?
    151:38
    Get the cab. So that elevator for Tony's Palace is a gigantic piece of shit. Oh, it is. So shoot the middle.
    151:47
    If nothing else, folks, you're going to get something. So those targets keep coming up and down. There you go. Tell me more about Victoria. She was a real bitch. Oh, sorry. That's what I said. Victoria thought that all her husbands wound up dead.
    152:05
    They say that with the clues, if they don't talk about somebody, they're the person. Oh, okay. George, that's cheating. Oh, I read the thing, and this one's got Easter eggs in it and cows in it. It does. You can hit the flipper a bunch of times and do different things. Oh, yeah. You've got to hit the flipper like 19 times in order for it to do. But what's that all about?
    152:30
    Oh, I got it again. I can't believe I got the right thing again. Wow. I keep guessing it. So, who did you guess? Victoria. But that was the one that they just talked about. I know. But they talked about it. I guess they're wrong.
    152:40
    Oh, come on. Really? I lost the ball already? You suck. That's a big deal. Wow. Is that three balls? That's three balls. You got a high score, Lane? Let's see. High score for me? Come on. Replay. Sweet. I like that.
    152:57
    Yes, I got my initials in. Sweet. Most impressive. Thank you, Chris. Okay. Okay, Dave. We're on round two here.
    153:07
    Now watch the light show when I'm done here. It's going to give me some stock. award one credit and when it's finished watch us do this whole little light show at the end here I'm watching cool see it's kind of cool I'm not going to let this go anytime real soon I want to play it a bunch more and then I can let it go for play testing purposes of course okay this is a colorful okay not a eye blinding light show but Why? Because these aren't stupid LED blinding lights that dummies would put in the game. No, these are like regular flasher lights that aren't going to give you retinal damage. Turn away from Grabber Babylon? Yes.
    153:54
    Oh, you put all those things. No, no, that's from the factory. That's true. Okay, so we're going on round two here. So we're talking about two silos again, and we're going to play the... We're going to play. We're going to drink the Keith Elwin Brew Mosaic Goat. That's his goat? I'll let you look. No, I just made that. Okay. Okay, he's the greatest of all time, I see.
    154:19
    Okay. Right? Call it from Cam. Yeah. I think you might like this one, though. All right. All right, the goat. Okay. We're going to do a Cam Pop? Did you call him? Oh, Cam Pop. Come on. All right, here we go, Corn Pop.
    154:31
    Second one. Oh, yeah. How about right before, a little interlude before we do the second one, cramps, George. You ever get late night, late cramps? You ever get cramps going to bed and wake up with some cramps? Everybody gets cramps these days. No. Well, a lot of people do. I have a solution. And it's really bizarrely weird, but I tried it. I keep getting them. Throw some lots of water. That works great. Vitamin B, calm bugs, that works great. Nothing totally fixed it, but here's the thing. From our friends Jeff and Sharon in Maine, take a bar of soap, put it in your bed sheets, to the bottom of your sheets.
    155:07
    Say that again. No, it wasn't Tony. All right, Maureen said it's Tony. Say it again. I say it's Jeff and Sheriff. You put what in the bottom of your what? You take a bar of soap, put it in your bed sheets. Careful now. Okay, down at the bottom. The bottom of what? In your sheets at the bottom of the bed. Oh, I thought you were talking about another bottom. No, not in the bottom. No, the sheets.
    155:30
    Sheets at the bottom of the bed. Of course you're not going to feel it if you've got a bar of soap at the bottom. No, no, no. That's for a pharmacologist. No, see, you put it in the bed sheets all the way at the bottom of the bed, on the feet of the bed, the foot of the bed, and for some reason it makes you okay to leg cramps. And you know what? I did it. I haven't got a leg cramp since.
    155:51
    Power of suggestion. Maybe. I don't know. Okay, drink your beer. Load a couple of games on. I'm going to give you some more beer, and you're going to tell me what you think of the goat beer. No, no, you've got to drink what's left. What's left? Oh, it's mine. Okay. You can't mix it.
    156:06
    I want your... Should I have a cracker first? No. Tell me what you think of this one. Let's see. Okay, it's coming out a little bit. Kind of flowery. Right. It's more of a... More flowery. Right. It's okay. I like the other one better. Really? Yeah. Okay. The other one's a little better. Okay. You're alive. I got one for you, I've said, I'll bring down. Okay. It's a Bob Daddio specialty brought over. Okay. Let's play a game. Would the missus, the... Do you want to get in on this?
    156:46
    The nurse? Nurse Maureen, would you like to be in? Sure. Okay. Because Grant said, let the girl play. Okay, so Maureen's going to join us. Ladies first?
    156:57
    Yes? No? You want to go last? You want to try it, Troy? Yeah, I'm going to go. So we're going to play regular. Do I have to hit anything to make it regular? It's a right flipper you're good to go. There you go. Okay. Now you can actually, you're going to choose who can finish this thing. I want a letter. So you said X is the easy one. So automatically do that. But I want multiball. So I'm going to go for the odd. So you can keep changing. I'm going to go for the odd. It's like roulette. It's multiball. It's like roulette. Which one's multiball? There's no multiball in there. Multiplier. Oh, forget it. X is the easy one. A or X is the easy one. It's hard to go. I'm going to go for two. Good luck, I'm not sure it's going to make it there Okay, got it under the telephone And now Oh, why did that do that?
    157:46
    And where's that ball go? How'd that ball get over there? Subways, they're called like ramp game subways I think you want to hit the spin thing Wherever it says spin, hit it You want to hit the spin lights there You want to get there, you don't get the choo-choo train but you want to spin.
    158:01
    You want to go, wherever it says spinning, the flashing spinning thing, that's not it. That's still not it. You want to go to, you want to go to lane shots, and you missed out, so it's timed out.
    158:12
    Okay, I have no idea what I'm doing. Shoot the middle is always very nice. You keep going up, down. Oh, you're, really?
    158:24
    Get in the cab. Okay, trap on the left. So, by the way, So what do you think I should hit? So use your right flipper. See how you can change everything you hit it? You're moving these around. What am I moving? Oh, the people. No, right here. See this right here? See your lanes? Oh, okay. So if you see a ball coming down here, make sure that lights up. Then it goes down there. So you'll light taxis. So what do I want to hit here? All right, right now you want to hit. Egg's in the middle? Egg's not bad. Yeah, I'd say egg's right in the middle. I think that's probably the way to go.
    158:58
    Take a cab. What cab means you want to go in the left lane. It's a cab. It's a choo-choo train shot. That is from bowling. If I was going to make this a real free spin, this might be good for you. You might get an extra ball or something. Second chance. Oh, you got the ball back. Oh, the ball back, yes. Second chance. Oh, so auto launch. Auto launch, yes. Okay, so I got it up in the bumper. Flashing spins. Keep the flashing spins if you want to do it. You just got a penthouse key so you have to go the champagne route. Okay.
    159:37
    Oh, and I didn't hit the thing and that. Didn't hit the lane change and... Okay. Eh. Fast game. I'm gonna go left. Okay. So X is the easiest of those four targets which you just hit again. So that's got you two times bonus. Oh, so that's huge.
    159:58
    Oh, so I made a mistake. Oh, wow. Yeah, you did a jumper there. That's a jump ramp. Second chance. Shoot spin shot to complete the spin. Shoot the spin shot. Do the spin shot. Okay, so you got it under the telephone. Where did this come from?
    160:15
    Now we go. Hey, taxi. Hmm Lot of rubber on this game Lot of rubber on this game So mystery slot Wild Choice Jackpot 75 Million for that shot So you took half of me with one shot That's how the rent came from there, George Yeah, you know That's how we ran about Hmm Okay I'm going to choose who done it. I'm going to go choose. So what lights the spotlights? I'm going to say, I'm going to say he did it. Am I correct again? I have an alibi. Yeah, I've heard that before.
    161:10
    How did you get to do that? I don't know. Oh, again, I make my first mistake. Why do people listen to us? Oh, it's Maureen's turn. You know, if this was a classic game, I could tell you all about it, but I'm not sure. Yeah, I can't tell you anything. I never played it before. Ask a Ramper. You know we could have a new segment called Ask a Ramper Well nobody going to contact me for that Okay so we in phone for action And she gets it. And she gets the two-time bonus, which is huge.
    161:46
    So she's got the flashing middle on Tony's house. Ball one. Oh, so it's got a ball one? It does, yeah. It's a virtual lock.
    162:03
    Oh, it's a virtual lock. So where does the ball come out of? The right ramp or the right... If you keep going down, you're going to go. If you keep going up, you're going to go to the base. What is that? Oh. It's in the elevator. More evidence to choose who's done it. Which one do you want to do?
    162:21
    You got to choose, all right? Which one, left? Go left or right and then hit both clips together. Do it quick.
    162:30
    So she shows Butler and he has an alibi. So are we all trying to figure out the same person? Or are we all, so everybody's doing their own. Their own mystery.
    162:44
    Extra ball. Your choice, extra ball or what's bar? Well, bar could be multi-ball. Barney's. I mean, go to the... I need to get a drink out of it. Get a free beer. We're already there. Okay, so she's on seventh floor now. Let's jump the ramp.
    163:07
    This would look... This would look cool with a train on it. I think you could... I think you could put it above the left. On the right there. On the left. that big screenshot right there, and it's pretty deep at the top. You know, I think it was that flasher there. I think that you should really look at the ACDC one. That might work. I'll get Tony the track. Because you want something, you want to be able to go underneath it. On top of the ramp, see Tony's Palace ramp right there? I put it there. Right at the top there? Yeah. The beginning of the track. Right there? The track's right there on the right, next to the roulette. Yeah. Yeah, that might work. so you get to shoot again yeah is she beating us I don't know she's getting there go for it there you go that's the one X marks the spot that's the way to do it so she got it again so that's huge doubling your bonus you could have told me a red phone for Batman so she's still not number one but she's getting there so she's at seventh floor she's at eighth floor I don't understand how you collect them. Tell me more about Tex. I was never going to let Victoria get her mitts on my money.
    164:31
    It's not. Fins are lit. It's not Tex. Right down the middle. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm listening. Hey, what are you doing here? You're going to think you're beating Dave by a little bit.
    164:44
    Go, Sean. Is this my ball? Yeah. Is this your ball? It's your day. It's ball one? Hold on. Yes. I'll save them. Bastard. Oh, you killed him.
    164:53
    That's okay. Play your ball. I don't care. All right. I cheated. Doesn't matter. Sorry, George. That's okay. What was my score?
    165:03
    I don't know. Messed up. I'm at 87. The Dave's at 246. I'd be disqualified a turnover now. Yeah, but that's okay.
    165:11
    You're beating Dave by a little bit right now. Train combo is lit. So, you have to do the train ramp a couple times? I think I do. But that taxi thing keeps being lit over on the left. Well, you light it by going here. By going down and seeing the light taxi chase, that's how.
    165:30
    Bar, bar, second chance. Bar, bar, bar. What do I get? I go to the bar. $100 million points for going to the bar. Oh, Dave is now kicking us. He's at $350. Hey, look. See, play through the ball and leave. See that crap right there? Oh, you bastard. If only I could play pinball. Okay. I'm wearing your back.
    165:50
    Grant, you're player four. This song is getting old, though. They need another song. It's a ramp game. That's why you can't play your own tunes in this game. That's the problem with these games. You want to play your own classic tune? It ain't happening.
    166:05
    Other than the clue, you can't play this game. I guess you can without Sam, but it would be a little bit more difficult. Oh, that's a little... Oh, almost. Good save. The roulette back... Nobody's gotten the roulette wheel yet. How come?
    166:23
    Because you didn't get that lane yet. Go to the spinner lane, you'll get it. Okay, don't play my ball. Okay, I'll play your ball. Oh, another good thing about the Tournament Agency, the Dr. Dave Invitational Classic, for the first time in five years, I played classic rock and roll during the whole tournament. and people loved it. You're going to pick one. The Gamma Idiots, some of them who were my biggest tournament sometimes, they'd be all set and they'd play music for you. How dare you play music when we're playing pinball? You guys are no fun. I want fun people. Okay, up the train, Ram.
    166:58
    No jerkos allowed. I want fun people. Okay, so I caught it. So do you think I should get the telephone? Oh, you're heading.
    167:06
    A little too strong? Somebody get the phone, George. He's saying somebody get the phone. No one's answering the phone. I answered the phone earlier to tell the marketer. That was fun.
    167:16
    They didn't like me. Okay, so what am I doing here? Elevator. Go the elevator. Keep going straight up. Keep going straight up all the time.
    167:25
    Oh, don't lose the ball. We got a ball stick? Yeah, ball stick for that. Now you're on a ball stick. Keep it in the elevator. Don't lose the ball.
    167:37
    Oh, and I lost the ball. 60 million points you're getting. Take that. Get the phone. Hey, you got the phone. Tell me more about Butler. Butler was the... It's the Butler, not Butler. Is that a theme, Butler? When do I get to guess? You got to keep... Once you eliminate all the suspects, or it says choose suspect.
    168:07
    You have to keep playing. Is it a what? Okay, I want that roulette wheel. Because he eliminated stuff by going there, I guess.
    168:19
    He keeps going the elevator to find new suspects. Okay, I'm back around again. I can't get that roulette wheel. That's a tough shot. Yeah, roulette's lit, so go low. Yeah, I'm trying. And then you get the shoes, so go low. Go low. You got potential, George. You like shoe. Okay, in the sewer I think Look at the rats Pack a rat It's a million points for that Pack the rats You must be in In Congress If I'm packing rats Yeah True It's a sewer Or a swamp Come on Oh man Okay Put me back in the game That's fun It's a fun little game. Yeah, you wouldn't lose interest on this game. No, it'll take a little while. Okay.
    169:14
    So you've got to hit the button. Oh, I think he's going to hit it. He's a real wizard. He's a real cuck-a-puck. Oh, come on. He's a real wizard. Well, he knows. This guy knows. Yeah, sure.
    169:33
    Well, Dave's leading the pack right now. Choose who does it. I don't want this. I don't know. Who cares?
    169:40
    Hank or Chris? It's either you or me. Yeah, I mean... Meet me in the basement. Hey, so we are now. I'm pretty good to get the multi-ball. Oh, there you go. Ball locks.
    169:54
    Oh, look at that. Two around. Two taxis. Three taxis, Bill. Nope. Faster. Three spins. Okay. So, Dave is that... Player two I got a credit doc just came out oh boy now what's he going to complain about where's that how do you know that when you were playing his little doc came out to his credit saying the game's saying hey I'm not seeing this so Maureen you have a chance to beat Dave we haven't hit the roulette wheel that's why he's probably complaining launch ball Batman I'm going to re-team this game to Batman Okay so I got 398 Dave's got 462 And Maureen Here we go 5 million in the ball back And out again Extra ball Choice of something Extra ball to the left There you go. Okay, so extra balls. He's hanging in there. So many gifts. Extra balls.
    171:01
    Okay. She's coming back. She's at 313. She's making a move. I taxied. He took the flippers.
    171:11
    Almost. Come on, man. Okay, don't choke. So bitch. See, he's keeping the flippers so they can go through that. I know.
    171:23
    Shoot again. Watch. Okay, watch. How did you get shoot again? See? Watch this. Look at this. See, you hit the flipper. See, and then move across. It goes whizzer cross. She's going to win. Watch the light. See it? Maureen, you need like 20 million points. So you see the ball's about to go off the left lane? Make sure that's right. If you can get the tee, you get 40 million points. Hit that one. See that? Okay. Hit that one. That goes off. You got it? Yeah. You know what? I'm going to tell you how to ramp it right away. I don't want to. I would say all about ramping. You don't do that for me. I don't mean hanging in the wind. You're a ramper from way back. Yeah, I am. You're another good ramper.
    171:57
    I'm going to put a bunch of ramps on Paragon. Okay, so she's at the penthouse. Now she's going down. Okay, let's see. There's a lot of going down at the penthouse. A lot going down. End of ball bonus, $5 million, $15 million, $5,000,000. Oh, she won. Did she win? She won.
    172:15
    She did win. 5.27, 4.62 for Dave, and I pulled up the rear, as I always do, with the bars. Nice going. Look at Maureen go.
    172:25
    Look at you. Ladies, look at you. Do we want to have a... We're already at 38 minutes. Okay. You want to play one more? We can play one more. Oh, Midnight Madness. Okay, that's better. Why don't you do that? Let me get that going. Oh, hold on. Let me see this testing port. So, I was wrong with the Midnight Madness. I thought that when it comes up... See? Check spinner switch. No one hit the frickin'... No, nobody did. That's why it's complaining. That's kind of a... Gotta be honest, in comparison to, like, uh... Help Me Speak Easy, that's kind of a lame... We want someone to actually motorize that, but I can't find how to do it. I mean, if I had more time... Oh, that's stagnant? Stagnant. Oh, I thought that went around. No. See, if I had more time and more budget, I'd make that motorized. But I have to find the motor, the right thing, hook it to the right thing. It's a whole thing. The thing to the thing? The thing. Because no one makes any toys for this game. You have to make your own shit. Well, it's pretty good, though. I mean, it's a pretty... There's a lot to this game. This game doesn't get a lot of love. A lot of people love you. They poo-poo this game. Everything is a manual switch for each one of those ramps off of Tony's house? Yes. Yep. Someone actually put the magnetic switches on this underneath. It probably works better. They don't look like crap, though. They're black. No, I understand, but it probably works. These are fine.
    173:49
    Put new switches on for a couple bucks. When do these side spotlights turn on? I've never seen them turn on. When you're in the middle of the, oh, Midnight Madness. Let's change the utility. So, Midnight Madness. We were at Midnight Madness. Why didn't it, oh, maybe we were after the fact. Probably one time. 12.36. We're going to go 11 p.m. and we're going to bring it up to really close to midnight.
    174:15
    And it'll automatically trigger by doing what? It should just So, when we're playing now, when it gets to midnight, right in the middle of when we're playing, when we're up, it's going to go Okay, you're going to play, because I want to see this in action. Well, you can play doubles, or you can just play single game. No, you play. Or we can go alternate balls. How's that? You'll play two, I'll play the middle one. Alright. Do you know the beer? Let me get you the... I still have a little bit if you want some of this. I'll drink it if you don't. Get a Bob beer and get a Troves, too, please.
    174:51
    Okay, a Bob beer. A Bob beer. This is Crazy Bob's beer? Crazy Bob's beer. He's part of the Bobsy Twins. Okay.
    174:59
    People, how am I going to break this up? We're going to talk about the game, and then it's going to be part three when we're actually playing it. I don't have enough time. I seriously don't have enough time to edit this whole thing before next Tuesday. I've got crap going on later in the week. No, I'm going to do it. You've got one more week. No, I won't even delay it a week. I'll just do it, and if it comes out on a Thursday... Yeah, open it for that puppy. It's got an astronaut on it. It's got an astronaut... Yes, so this was called... It Ain't Easy, Double IPA, Astronaut... By whom? We Played Golf on the Moon, by Richard Nixon, craft beer. No, it's not.
    175:39
    Radiant Peg Craft Beers. Where the hell are they from? Hoppy Citrus. Double India Pale Ale. What else is this?
    175:54
    Brewed by Newport Craft Beer Brewing, Newport, Rhode Island. That's Rhode Island brew. I'm going to take this because I want the sticker off. No, I'll give you a couple. That's a... Yeah, more. You can take it home. It would be a lovely parting gift. Okay. Lovely parting gift.
    176:12
    I'm almost there. Okay. Good. We're going to play one more game. I'm going to show us the... I thought you wanted to try it. We have more. I'm finishing my... I'm going to shut the West Coast. I'm finishing my... Fishing. I'm finishing my Keith Elwin beer. I love this East Coast IPA crap. I'm going West Coast. Nice Troves Perpetual IPA.
    176:32
    I didn't drink the West Coaster that they had at Two Silos. Why not? because I was drinking this mosaic thing, and we kind of got tied up.
    176:43
    I met with my old resident assistant from college, who lives down there now, lives near my son. So he was all excited. My son and I, I think, partake a little bit, maybe too much. Was he drinking IPA? Yeah, he was. Actually, he was going beer for beer with me. Sure, he's got youth in his side. Yeah, I don't. But I didn't feel too bad.
    177:08
    That's different. Wow, what a change. That's like shifting gears. But we had good food. We had chicken wings there. We had, I don't know, they kept ordering food. I get another story to tell you. I don't know if I should play this and then tell a story or tell a story and play this. Play this and then tell the story and then we're going to end. It's a fun and game story. It's a great story. Okay. With lots of future potential in the story. Okay. All right, so. So, you're going to move ahead. Move ahead. So let me see where we are here in the time frame.
    177:42
    Okay, so we're almost... 1153. Whoops, not going to go there. So you think this will go, like, right away?
    177:51
    Yeah, because it's almost midnight. Same new time. Okay. So now we get out of there. All right. Okay, I'm just following. Okay, so resetting We go Okay Go I was afraid of this Oh, you're afraid of this Well Somebody come quick I love the name of this beer It's under company Radiant Pig What is a Radiant Pig?
    178:28
    They're probably in the pinouts Oh, come on Down the middle Good thing I had a ball state in this rap game I'll tell you what Choo-choo I just did Oh, no, totally Oh, this is Son of a bitch You don't like this? This is more your style Really? No, I like it It's good, but it's Oh, no, this has definitely got a higher IBU You know, it's definitely more Western Is that like MBUs? No You know what an MBU is? No It's a mock cross special It's a marital bargaining unit.
    179:03
    It's an NBU. I don't need that. He does. I don't either. His wife, from what I understand, she wears the pants in the family. Ross's wife? No. I thought that was the case. Because it always seems like he's got a bargain to go do something. Oh, maybe it is. Yeah, it's always bargaining. I think it's part of the, it's part of whatever.
    179:28
    Okay, so we're on the roulette wheel. Let's focus on trying to hit that roulette wheel. I've got a bullet.
    179:43
    Right, so you want to answer the phone, which you didn't answer. 50 million points or a thousand points? You played two balls, let me play one. Point inflation. You didn't do shit. Oh, pardon me. Well, I mean, shoot. Yeah, same thing. It should go.
    180:07
    He'll make it. There he goes. See, now you can't flip, right? Look. Oh, hey! Midnight Madness, that's why. Hey! Hey, that's right. Here you go, George. Midnight Madness. So what do? You'll see.
    180:19
    All the games we do is the arcade. Imagine the whole arcade doing this right now at the same time. Now you get pinball and multiball. Oh, my. Oh, this is awesome. Oh, yeah. Hey, look at the back line. It says, look up there. Zap. Crash. Boom. It's all... I can't look. I gotta watch. It's all, um, frickin', uh, spatter. Boom.
    180:39
    Crash. Powies. Zap. Bang. Okay, I lost a couple. Am I doing it? I don't know. I'm getting go-hos. We still haven't gotten into the roulette wheel No, you need to get the roulette wheel This thing keeps going, how long does it go for? I think you got about a minute I think you're about done Maybe not Oh, come on Midnight total 16 million, that's all I got? This is a good game. Now for our congregation music.
    181:27
    The whodunit in George's failure. Tony's going to like this. Brought to you by Brito. Brito? That was Brito. Makes old bodies new. Brito. Is that really nice chemical that polishes your balls? Right. In your car.
    181:52
    In your helmet. Quiet, morons. I'm broadcasting. Oh, boy. We're really going down in the sewer. And that concludes another broadcast of the classic pinball podcast. My name is George. My name is Dave. If you made it through 19 episodes You've done very well Thank you We'll see you at number 100 If you have any idea of what 100 Grant, don't pipe in What 100 should be You can contact us at The Classic Pinball Podcast Numeral 1 At gmail.com Again the classic pinball podcast number one at gmail.com Dave, why don't you tell them where they can find you and your services. You can find me and our services pinballdoctor.com spelled out p-i-n-b-a-l-l-d-o-c-t-o-r dot com brand new website where we list the podcasts on there what we do with our day spa services. We specialize in restorations and day spas and making your game look and play like new. Bring everything with us for one day, about four to six hours, eight hours on site, and beautiful games when we're done with them. Very few people do that. They want you to bring the game to them. We don't. We come to your house and work on the game in your house. So no mess, no fuss. And we've been doing this for about 30 years now. So I think you'll like it. We have a lot of good following, a lot of good feedback. One last thing.
    183:32
    Games you have for sale. everybody knows you got Rush. Hopefully, because they're going to, it's going to be the number one game for the pinball awards or whatever they're calling themselves. That might help you. What else you got? All right. So in the restoration queue that's available for sale, just give me a deposit down and we can talk about it, and I'll tell you what status and how long you're going to wait for it. So, of course, we got things, games like we have Embryon. we have maybe a Flash Gordon in there we have Stingray we have World Cup Soccer 94 coming up what else do we have in there hold on we have more we have Doctor Who Twilight Zone oh you got a lot of stuff I got a lot of more we have games like Boy, I'm in front of me. We've got about 14 of them. So we get games anywhere from, like, we have a flipper pool from 1965, I think, we have in there. Anything from the 1960s all the way to the 1990s, we have games, anything in between. So Captain Fantastic is in there available.
    184:46
    Lots of cool games available. So just reach out and contact us. Give me an email, dave at pinballdoctor.com, all spelled out. And just shoot me an email on that. I can give you more information.
    184:59
    So goodbye, Dave. Goodbye, Dave. See ya. Peace out. So, George, I got an email from this guy who, he's asking advice about, you know, what to buy for Pimmo Machines and this and that. Is it a listener or one of your viewers? Both. No, more of a, he searched around for pinball restoration and repair, and he found me, and then saw on my site that I was a big Fun and Games guy, because I had the Fun and Games bio on my site. And then, so I started talking, and he's like, oh, yeah, I used to work at Fun and Games. My name is Ken, and he's in Marlborough, and he used to work at Fun and Games back in the day I was there. Older than I am? He's older. He's, well, he's 60, early 60s, yeah. and he was actually a bouncer there he's in really good shape back in the time frame and he just, he always wanted to buy a Gottlieb a Card Whiz, a Royal Flush but he hasn't bought it, he owns a business he owns Empire Pest Control in Marlborough so he's getting ready to retire but he's asking about impressions so he bought a Joker Poker, I said oh good game glad you bought that game PM or SS? Solid State. Solid State, because EM is kind of rare. And he gave me some pictures. I go, yeah, that's worth getting. I would get it for a little bit cheaper price. But it looks like, well, the guy said it's totally gone through by his tech. And I go, I tipped at the grain of salt. I don't think so. But it looks decent enough, and I can definitely work with what you got there. Try to get it a little bit cheaper, because he wants a lot of money, and it's not worth the money he wants for it. So he wanted like $2,500 for it. I said, try to get it for under $200. It's more like a $1,500 game for what it was. So he got it for like around $2,000. So he had to drive all the way to New Jersey to get it. He drove like five hours to New Jersey, picked it up, got it. And it plays okay, but he said he had a problem with a tilt on it. So he had his friend come over. He said he had his friend come over from Funding Games Tech from years ago, and he fixed it. He found out the problem. And so he was playing it. He said, I'd love to come over and try to check out your stuff and maybe have you work on my – give me a day spot on my new game. So he came over and played all my – he looked at my stuff. But he wanted more talking about Funding Games more than playing my games. He said, listen, your games are really pretty. I said, yeah, they're pretty, yes, but you need to play one of my games to know what they play like. You have no idea what a game will play like until you play one of mine because mine are all done up. They're all optimized. So he played. I said, here, play a ball of eight ball blocks. Just try that out. You'll see the difference. So then he played. He said, yeah, it plays nice. He told me later on when he got home and he played his game again. It's like, wow, I see what you mean. Your games are nice and snappy and strong. No, he had a tired game. Tired, tired game. A game that was optimized. So people don't know unless you play. So I said, stop talking and play. Because he's a talker. But not everybody has a friend like you.
    187:54
    True. I'm lucky. I know I'm lucky. Yeah. I mean, I talked about, you know, going to, you know, the Silver Bowl Museum in Delray. It's nice that they have all those games. But some games are better than others. And it's just, it's hard. I mean, just like you were talking about the guy in Illinois with Rob Burke. Yeah. It's a full-time job. And the thing, I don't know if you read this thread on Pinstripe about the pinball museum in Las Vegas. They were really taking him to task. Oh, Tim Arnold. Yeah, he's not doing as well as you said. He used to do good for a team. Well, they were complaining about the money that the guys got. Right. And not repairing games. It's like, hey, it's his business. He can do whatever the hell he wants. You don't have to go there. But I understand what you're saying. When you walk into a place, you want the games to play right. Some will play better than others. And I found that at the Silver Bowl Museum. It's not a slight. It's a hard thing to keep up with, you know, 75 or 100 games. It just is. Well, a long time ago, like 10, 15 years ago, our neighbor up in Salem there, I complained to him. They were doing all these tournaments, all the ramp game tournaments, all these pinball tournaments with all ramp games, no real old school games. And I said, hey, where are the old school classic games to play in a tournament? Oh, those always break down. They play tired. They don't play right. That's false. Remember? But they put the games. If you do it right the first time, like my games, they last forever. Yeah, they need to tune up every once in a while. But ask me the last time I did a flipper rebuild. I don't play them enough, right? But see, these guys, these rampers, all they would play is someone's tired old piece of crap classic game that was junk. And they said, oh, it broke down. It didn't play right. It was tired. The flippers couldn't make whatever. It's like, yeah, you guys are playing crappy, crappy games and aren't restored. Tell you what, put my restored games in your tournament and now you have a different story.
    189:58
    PJ's calling. Hold on a second. Caller, you're on the line. You're on the air. Let me see. Hey, PJ. Happy New Year How are you George? I'm good, how are you? I'm good Come on over I saw your second high score Not first high score On whodunit Oh, okay So, how did the World Cup Soccer How did that go? Minty home use only In my basement yes lucky ducky yeah wow Mr. Basket Catch yeah George says I open the basket up and games just fall into my basket and it runs oh yeah it works everything it runs everything it's all good to go even the batteries were all the batteries were from 25-30 years ago there's no rod on them they didn't leak at all the board are nice it's all it just takes me due to a cleanup and optimization day spa, it's going to be good to go. Why don't we just cue the Bad Company song, Bad Company. Oh, I like it. I got a good version of Bad Company by, uh, by, what's it called? Five Finger, Five Finger. Five Finger Death Punch version. I'm going to give you that one. Yes.
    191:26
    So, come on over. We're doing a podcast. I'm going to be gone. He's got a beautiful World Valley World Cup soccer. I do. Some people call it World Crap Soccer. It's just about ready to go. It is. If anyone needs a machine, David's got it. All right, TJ. Look at you doing a commercial. Look at you go. Nice going.
    191:49
    And also, when you're in an area, stop by Mel's Commonwealth Cafe for the best breakfast you've ever had. In Wayland, Massachusetts. Thank you. You're welcome.
    191:59
    Great coffee, too. Right. Yeah. New England coffee. And awesome muffins. They got some awesome muffins. Yes. We use the Muffin House Cafe muffins. Very famous in this area.
    192:12
    Metro West. Good stuff. All right. So what's going on? You just want to talk about the World Cup or you got other things? I just wanted to know how the World Cup soccer game.
    192:27
    Yeah, pretty nice. It was nice. How was the mansion? It was basically very, it was old, like from the 1700s. Old farmhouse. Old farmhouse with original wide pine flooring, hand hewn everywhere, restored. I mean, definitely not my cup of tea. If I was going to get something like that and spend that kind of money for a place, I like more of the early 1900s. I like that kind of vibe. but if you're into the 1700s and the early colonial stuff very nice place I wonder if they were like you probably didn't see the whole interior there could have been some old and some new too well no he definitely kept everything old but restored old all those really nice stuff it was all very well done oh ok I've got a couple questions for you a couple questions from George one well more observant yeah I guess questions how good is Benny how good is Benny? your nephew is an up and comer I consider him to be a world class player well he's got to jump in some big tournaments he entered in a professional tournament for his first time in his life and he finished 26 are you saying my tournament?
    193:45
    I know a different tournament no he's got to go to Wisconsin to District 82 or one of the big tourneys to measure up against the big boys. That's one.
    193:58
    Second is, when are you going to buy Dave's rush game and get rid of yours? Hey, you can upgrade. You know what? I don't even play mine that much. Yeah, you and everybody else. Use your QR code and use your flippers.
    194:16
    My shoulder's been hurting me since the pinball show because I played too much pinball that particular day, because I haven't really played that much football this year. Here's a trick on the new Stern games, what I've done to help the shoulder thing. You have to raise the front legs up super high to get the right angle of your arms and not hurt your arms, but you also have to raise the back legs up, too, in the same ratio. I got something else, too.
    194:45
    Yes. Work on your brother. We want to do a show there. I want to do a show he's definitely open to it he's got some personal stuff going on right now no no no I'm coming Stu wants us over who did Stu talk to he wants to have over or his house yeah his house no Stu was here playing in the tournament and he was talking was he talking to Jeff I think he was talking to me and Jeff he wants us both to come over and look at his stuff he has. And I think, and George as well. George would definitely like his stuff. We got to do a podcast on his stuff. Yeah. His collection is absolutely amazing. I got to reach out to him whenever he's available and there's a good time frame. George and I have to do that.
    195:39
    Something in the new year. Definitely. Yep. Definitely. Cool. so right now I was just in the middle of doing a fun games thing about before George had to head out of here about Ken and so forth and coming over here in the fun and games I was going to tell a couple fun and games stories I got to leave some details out to protect the guilty but there's some definitely fun and games dirt I want to tell and in fact down the road Ken also told me that he's going to have some of his fun and games alumni he worked with over for a podcast, and we can really dish all the dirt about what happened in the background.
    196:22
    He wants us to do a podcast? Oh, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of good stuff there. Oh, so that's good. That's going to be an amazing podcast.
    196:29
    Well, you guys played together there, right? We did. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. You and PJ. Oh, yeah, yeah. We did. But we had no idea what was going on behind the scenes after hours. and now we know oh it was all kinds of debauchery after I was at Fun and Games all kinds of debauchery oh boy it was kind of like the Playboy Mansion if you think about it back in the day it was that kind of debauchery Playboy Mansion stuff right yep that kind of thing groupies I my mind is reeling and I can't say anything I'm thinking oh boy I got some stories yeah I got some real stories I'll throw those off-line, and I'll filter them. Let everybody's imagination run wild for a few minutes. Whoa. Yeah. Oh, boy.
    197:20
    In fact, I should let the guy tell the stories. We can always beep things out if we need to. Yeah. So. But anyway, you going to come over?
    197:31
    Right now? Yeah. I should. You should. Come on over. You got time. Snowstorm, get snowed in. Get snowed in. You can stay over.
    197:40
    Okay. alright well this was a fun call yeah thanks for calling in you are caller number one you have a habit of calling when I'm here yeah I do good timing clairvoyance right I think so something going on ok alright guys have a good night have a good podcast alright bye bye That was Paul Blumstein of Mel's Commonwealth Cafe checking in with George and Dr. Dave.
    198:20
    Okay, so where were you when you were finishing up? I am finishing up. So anyway, so this guy Ken, his game, Joker Poker, blah, blah, came over, played the game. I said, oh, wow, I didn't realize his games could play this well, and I've got to have you over. And then he started mentioning about, hey, we go to dinner like three times a week, and we live in Marlborough. We go to this place called Double T's in Marlborough, which is the old Sully's Bar. Oh, you've talked about that before. Sully's? Yeah. Yeah, because this guy, because here's why. This guy named Tom, who owns Sully's Bar, contacted me several months ago saying, hey, I have a Xenon game that, you know, I own Sully's and I want you to, I want to fix some things on it and you sound like you know what you're doing, you're local, I'd like to have you over. So I contacted him back and forth over, he's like, oh, we'll have you over sometime and do that. But we never really nailed anything down, and it was a little kind of, we didn't really nail anything down, but it was going to be in the future at some point. I don't know. So that kind of felt the radar a little bit. And then Ken said, well, you know, sometimes if you want to go to the Double T, I highly recommend it. It's an awesome place. It's not like Sully's was just a dive bar. It was a glass-cold 2 a.m. kind of bar. In fact, Sully's was the place that all the bartenders and waitresses, after their shift, would go to Sully's for last call after hours. What time is Sully's open, though? Until 2 a.m. It's open until 3. Open until 3. That's a late license. And no one else has. That's a late license for Massachusetts. And no one else has, because their grandfather's just old. Old, old, old. So they had that. But it was a dive bar. They didn't have any food. They just had drinks, you know. So this guy, Tom, took it over. So Ken said, hey, so I said, so it was like a Friday night. I said, hey, if you want us to make reservations, we get there at 430. You know, he has reserved seats at the bar. The bar is very popular there. You need to reserve seats at the bar if you want the bar. Otherwise, you can sit in the other thing. But, you know, let us know. So I said, well, do you want to go there? I don't know. And I said, you know what? Epic. Let's just go, Maury. We'll tell him, yeah. Yeah, reserve four spots within the bar. Let's do this. 4.30. Go ahead. So we got there.
    200:32
    Spot's for us there. They were there at the bar. We sat down there. What a nice place. You walk in the place, it was all like, you know, nice lighting. None of this cafeteria style BS, you know, no fluorescent crap. Just nice lighting. Orange-y lighting. You know, yellow stuff.
    200:49
    So we went in there and sat down at the bar, talked to Ken. And the guy, Tom, he came behind the bar, the owner, and I said, you look really familiar. And he said, And it's like, he was actually the bar manager at the Wildwood Restaurant Steakhouse in Marlborough for years. I said, that's how I know you. And then he said, are you Dr. David? And I go, yeah. It's like, I've been talking to you in my Xeon game for a while. He's like, oh, well, now that I know you, I'm just going to give you the key code of my house. You can go there any time and work on my game. I know you now. So it's like, well, I'm actually a legitimate business online, but I guess I wasn't good enough to want to see me in person. So, okay, now I'm in person, so now you can. I can't blame him. So now he sees me in person, so it's all cool. so I can go there anytime. So as I'm talking to him and we started talking pinball talk, Ken was talking pinball talk, Tom was talking pinball talk, we're all talking this stuff. Then next to us on the left, other people at the bar said, hey, you're Dr. Dave. And I go, yes, I am. All of a sudden, it was like this whole, I felt like I was a celebrity. How did they know you? Well, these are other customers of mine from Marlboro. They own a bride of pinball. You worked on our bride of pinball a couple years ago. Well, let's ask the big question. Does Sully's have a pinball? No. But it's called Double T's now. Double T's. So, double T's. So, Tom and the big Tom. So, is Tom getting a pinball machine for double T's? No. Not that I know of. He could, but no. Not a bad idea. Opportunity knocks. That's true. If he has room. One. Yeah, one. One. One old school would be kind of cool in there somewhere. That'd be kind of nice. Yeah, take your dog machine and put it in there. Put a pinball pool in there. Put a card in there. Yeah. Tie repair pinball machines. Yeah. What do you got to lose? Hmm. A license is probably cheap in this town. Yeah. 25 bucks, 50 bucks for a license, right? George knows. No, I'm saying that's usually, I mean, if it's cheap. If it's cheap enough, do it.
    202:34
    Yeah, that's great. So they started talking. So when are we going? Anytime. We should go there. This place is awesome. We should go right now. No, I'm going to beat the snow. I'll tell you. So Ken kept raving, raving, raving about this place. About, oh, the portions are huge. The price is right. They have a regular thing in the menu It's a limited menu But their specials are this long And Tom is the owner and the bartender up front His son Tom went to restaurant school And hotel management He's in the back making the food He's a professional chef He does an awesome job So he said anything you order here is going to be great They have a limited menu so it's all custom made It's all fresh It's because he does a special When it's done it's done Next the next day Exactly right. So Tom Sr. and Tom Jr. Yes, double Ts. There you go. And he specializes in mixed drinks. He specializes in awesome mixed drinks. Now, I wasn't down for mixed drinks because I didn't want to get in trouble, so I'll take an IPA you got. Sounds like another Soros. Meanwhile, Ken was freaking down on some martinis, some serious martinis next to me. It's like, oh, it looks so good. I really wanted to, but I'm going to pay for it tomorrow morning. I know I'm going to pay for it, so I didn't do it. But I was very tempted. so but we ordered some nice stuff there he ordered Maureen got a salmon salad it was fantastic I ordered a baked haddock which was great he got a chicken he got a half a chicken order grilled chicken with some other stuff it's a half order it was like overloading the plate a half order you know we're turning this pinball show into pinball beer food yes why not it goes together and travel yes me travel it's a travel channel well you haven't traveled yet no but you know what though speaking of the Ohio show, I would not I want to hit that Ohio Cedar Point Roller Coaster Park. It's too early when he has his show. When does he have his show again? First week in April. It's too early.
    204:34
    See, if it was in May, and you know who wants to go to that? I don't know, but you have a roller coaster person? Not really. No, I love roller coasters. We can actually think about doing a pilgrimage sometime. I told you, when we went to Disneyland with my son A long time ago, they have California Disney, which is like an amusement park. Yeah, yeah. We rode that roller coaster 12 times in a row if we didn't go more. There was nobody in line. I'm like, John, you want to go again? Yes. Want to go again? Yes. It's one of those induction roller coasters. So when you sit, it fires you up and straight up.
    205:12
    Again, I don't even know. It's probably still there. Yes. I love roller coasters Chris likes it too Chris Donahue, he loves coasters So I'd like to figure out some way we can all get out there It's like an 11 hour road trip to get out to Ohio I'm used to that I know But I'd like to have a good A bunch of cool guys that want to ride coasters Go out there It's getting there And ladies, come along too if they want to And get out there And invite Janice Miss Control Freak Yeah, well, how does she control it? She drove every mile of 3,500 miles. Does she drive fast? Oh, yeah. Oh, good. Perfect. Great. She can drive that. Perfect. Let her drive. We can be in the van. I already politicked for my upcoming birthday with people. I like this. And she's like, no, I think I'd be a fifth wheel. I'm like, okay, so you're out. I've got to figure this out. But she could drive the Pacifica. We could all be in the van and go on a freaking roller coaster.
    206:13
    Yeah. That'd be a good time. Yeah. She would be the one, but no, I don't think she's going to volunteer for that. Okay. I might be going. My friend who I went, another friend I went and visited, he's like, oh, in August, do you want to go to the tank and artillery show in Virginia? That sounds interesting. I go, can I drive a tank? He goes, no. But you can drive in one. I'm like, sign me up. Yeah. I want to go. Wow, yeah, that sounds great.
    206:45
    Wow. So I'm going to go to that, I think. That's cool. That's something different. With him, it's like going with an archivist. So, yeah. So, yeah, we've got some good stuff coming up, guys. It's going to be a good year.
    206:58
    I got the Fun and Games crew from back in the day. I have these old school crew. They have tons of stories to tell me. And it's going to be – I'm going to have to do some bleeping things out. I will give a little teaser. So one of the stories he told me, Ken told me that he was the bouncer there. after hours. Why did they have a bouncer at an arcade? Oh, it was called Fun and Drugs back in the time frame. Oh, okay. Enough said. And a lot of bad people, kids would come in there and move the games around, push games around and bang on the guys and say, you're out of here and they'd kick them out. He said, after like 11 o'clock at night,
    207:30
    he came up, people would come up to him like this time, like 30 years later, say, you're a real jerk to me. Well, yeah, I liked girls back in the day. Case in point, so, he still girls, but back in the day, really liked girls.
    207:43
    Come to the fun and games at 11 o'clock at night, right before closing, you got a bunch, three guys and their hot high school girlfriends are with them, and he'd say, yeah, we really don't have enough room for all six of you, so you guys have to stay outside. Your girlfriends can come in, though. He let all the girls come in, and he'd make time with them. They got all pissed off at him, and the girls would come in. And these girls were like, because you got to take it. There's no Facebook back in time. There's no internet. All you had was you had an arcade and the roller rink. That's where you made time with girls. That's where you had any kind of flirtation stuff. And there was one girl who would say she was a classic nymphomaniac. I won't get into details too much, but at one time he was trying to say, I need to go straight. I need a real, he prayed to God for, I need a real girlfriend. I can't have this anymore. I need to, you know, I need to know more of this stuff. He had enough. He's like tapping out, enough. I can't do it anymore. I'm breaking up with her. I can't anymore. So she said, okay. She came in one day for his birthday. He's at the snack bar of Fun and Games and put down. He didn't do the raincoat thing, did you? No, no, no, no, no. No, she brought in a bag and lit a paper bag and put it on top of the thing. Happy birthday. Put a paper bag down.
    209:01
    And he just shuddered to think what's in this paper bag. I'm already careful. Yeah, careful. What do I say?
    209:08
    Let's just say. I know what was in it. What's your guess? Something that might have been about a foot long. No, no, no.
    209:21
    In Boston, they had these things which I don't know personally, but people that are in my previous league talked about it. That's why they're not in my league anymore because it's a little weird.
    209:31
    Dungeons in Boston. You can go to these dungeons in Boston and get your freak on. There is some dungeon kind of stuff, attire, in this bag that she wanted to have him outskirt her with this dungeon attire stuff in a hotel room nearby, and then, you know, whatever. There was a TV show I was watching with, I know you don't know his name, because the guy who does the Einstein commercials now for one of the telephone companies, one of the cell companies, his father was the head of Major League Baseball you know who I'm talking about he had a show Joe Carrizio doesn't matter everybody knows who I'm talking about I'm sorry gaffe right now his character in a show about Wall Street again I'm doing this riff and I don't have any information in front of me his whole character was based on going to a mistress who was into the whole dungeon and submissive thing. Oh boy, that's what this bag was full of. It was full of that. I mean, it wasn't graphic, but enough to tell you what went on.
    210:50
    Yeah, that's a twist on life. And his other twist, his other part of it. So, he was like, no, no, we're breaking up. I can't do it all. No, no, no. So, then after she left... There are guys who would fall at her feet. When I told, well, I can't say who. Oh, it doesn't matter. When I told a friend of mine about this, he said, oh, I can't believe we missed out on all this stuff back in the day. So we had no idea. We're innocent kids. We had no idea. But there's so much stuff going on at that arcade, we had no idea. I think I want to interview this guy. Oh, that would be great. I'm going to have to clean it up. It would be fantastic. I'm telling you. That might be a good episode. People will be, it will be a highly rated episode, I'm sure. We'll see you after this, part one, two, three, four, up to nine. I can't believe how much recording we've done a lot should I say one more thing? there's no such thing as 10 minutes this is 26 minutes again exactly, again, look at it go we had PJ call in, what are you going to do? we had Grant call in ok, so one last thing here so again, the bag there full of goodies and so forth oh no, no, I just, no so then she went, I think she went to the bathroom or something, she had to go to the bathroom, the bag was still there The other guy that worked there with him, who was a little more not as much of a nice guy as he was, and this guy was not, back in the day, Ken, was not really a nice guy. But he's a nice guy now. Back then, he was definitely kind of a jerky guy. He himself had been a jerky guy. His friend was even more of a jerk. He said, I got a great idea, dude. You know what? Have her go get the bag, go to the hotel, do that whole stuff and put all that stuff on and so forth, and I'll break in the room like I'm going to rob the place, and I'll be a burglar coming into the room. And he goes, no, no, I can't do that to her. And he said, no, I can't. You're not doing that. Oh, these guys are conniving. Oh, they're conniving. Oh, yeah. There was all kinds of stuff going on. So we have a lot of good stories coming up. So that's a good tease. Oh, yeah. Good one. It'll keep you on the edge of your seat on that one. Okay. You done?
    212:49
    Yes, I think so. So that was, was that titillating? Is that a good word? Yes. Yeah. If we didn't have listeners, we either lost listeners or we've gained a whole lot of S&M listeners. And those are Spaniards and Mexicans. Stay tuned for the S&M broadcast. Here at the Classic Pinball Podcast, my name is George. His name is Dave. We deny that those are our real names because we're protecting the innocent. Como se llama usted? Spaniards and Mexicans. Oh, boy.
    213:24
    All right. Well, that is all for now. I want to know how much we've recorded. 28 minutes? No, before. Oh, a lot. All together. Three and a half hours.
    213:35
    Oh, my God. I know. Did we cover? You're going to look at your notes. Vote us in for the Twippies next time because the other guys are losers. Anyway. We weren't even nominated. I know. We weren't even considered. These guys are in. You know what? I'm not up for the back slapping. look at me I'm the best although I like listening to Kaneda when he rants I understand why everybody hates him it's great I don't hate him, I like listening to him he gets the juices flowing Kaneda he's artistic he's going to be an artistic kind of guy he's something going on with him he can do single player podcasts but he's on the spectrum he keeps saying he's too much about him He said the same thing over and over and over and over. Hey, look at me. Yeah, totally. Hey, look at me. Totally. Hey, look at me one more time. Yeah. And he's got that really funky hairdo we talked about. Yeah, what did I call his hairdo? What did I call it? I called it something, but I can't say it. I called it something else. I forget. DH is what I called it. Yeah, that's a good one. Right. That's a good one. Is that designated hitter? No, it's not. Okay. Anyway. Richard. Richard Head. My name is Dave. His name is George. It was a pleasure talking and riffing about funny games, and you will hear more about that in the near future. Oh, my God.
    215:02
    Who do you call when you want your pinball machine restored? Dr. Dave! Who? Dave! D-A-V-E! Yeah, Dave! But, George, you don't know what you're saying. You're under their control. Oh!
    215:22
    Hasta la vista. baby