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Q and A with Scott Danesi PT.2

Dead Flip·video·1h 9m·analyzed·Sep 5, 2017
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TL;DR

Scott Danesi Q&A during road trip covering TNA design, classic games, and prototyping methods.

Summary

This is a rambling Q&A stream with Scott Danesi (designer of Total Nuclear Annihilation/TNA) during a road trip to Chicago. Discussion covers TNA design philosophy, favorite pinball mechanics, equipment/prototyping methods (foam core builds, Ben Heck's approach, playfield durability testing), classic games, and various stream-related tangents. Scott discusses his 80s game preference, classic Sam Stern machines, and mentions working on augmented reality pinball content with a Microsoft HoloLens.

Key Claims

  • Scott Danesi designed Total Nuclear Annihilation, which was originally a homebrew called 'Total Annihilation' before legal/trademark issues with Atari required a name change

    high confidence · Discussed during stream; TNA laser-cut side rails are standard on every game; game has legal branding that differs from original homebrew name

  • Scott's favorite classic Sam Stern game is Stargazer

    high confidence · Direct statement: 'Mine would be Stargazer'

  • Scott sold all his DMD games because 'they were really worth a lot' but kept Taxi, High Speed, Earth Shaker, Doctor Dude, Bride of Pinbot, and The Boss

    high confidence · Direct statement about collection strategy

  • Ben Heck builds prototype pinball machines using foam core and hot glue to test angles without hooking up coils/flippers

    medium confidence · Scott mentions this as prototyping method; admits uncertainty ('I don't think so. He just does it to get the angles down. But he might. I don't know, actually.')

  • Someone (unnamed) conducted playfield durability testing by drilling a $600 playfield and running 200+ ball hits on it with minimal scratching, targeting eventual 2 million test cycles

    medium confidence · Stream discussion about durability testing; Scott expresses it's very cool but doesn't fully detail the setup or person involved

Notable Quotes

  • “I like the 80s stuff. Also, like, the solid state games from the 80s that were a little more simple. I just like the gameplay. I like the fact that they're really hard.”

    Scott Danesi@ 30:08 — Explains design philosophy behind TNA's 80s aesthetic and preference for challenging, shorter-duration gameplay over complex modern rulesets

  • “I haven't done anything like that, man. Jack needs to do it. Listen, I had the ideas, but I don't have, like, I think you can have all the ideas in the world, but there's, like, a base knowledge of angles and stuff that you need to be able to wrap your head around. Yeah, math is a big thing, too.”

    Scott Danesi@ 15:37 — Scott's perspective on pinball design skill requirements: geometry, angles, and math fundamentals beyond just creative ideas

  • “I would have loved to freaking show him the internet that man. Hopefully he records something because it's too freaking cool. It's super smart.”

    Scott Danesi@ 17:01 — Enthusiastic endorsement of the durability test rig approach; suggests it should be documented for community benefit

  • “I don't know. It was an old hair salon. Is there still hair in the floor? No. There's lots of cool hookups for sinks if I wanted sinks everywhere.”

    Scott Danesi@ 22:38 — Details about Scott's workspace (former hair salon converted to pinball machine shop); reveals unique facility characteristics

  • “The artwork completes the package. Yeah. And you know what? You wouldn't want to sell a whitewood version anyway. I mean, Matt works so hard doing all that hard stuff.”

    Scott Danesi@ 12:18 — Scott's stance on importance of professional artwork; defends the value of his design/art investment against hypothetical whitewood alternatives

Entities

Scott DanesipersonJack DangerpersonMatt ScottpersonBen HeckpersonTotal Nuclear Annihilation (TNA)gameSpooky PinballcompanyDead Fliporganization

Signals

  • ?

    event_signal: Pinball Expo attendance/dynamics appear to be subject of community discussion; Scott hesitant to elaborate on current issues, deflecting: 'this isn't something I'd like to talk about right now, if that's okay'

    medium · Chat discussion of Pinball Expo attendance; Scott's deflection: 'Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll, we'll talk, we'll talk about this later, if that's alright. Let's talk about fun stuff, like driving on a highway.'

  • ?

    community_signal: Dead Flip stream community actively donating bits and supporting content creation; substantial donations of 'shakers' mentioned (Terry donated 5 shakers in previous stream)

    medium · References to bit donations, discussion of 'Blackwater 100' community members, acknowledgment: 'Terry donated five shakers last night. Yeah, that was huge. That was crazy. That's very awesome.'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Scott identifies playfield geometry as critical design barrier; notes his Muppets game cut has 'bad geometry' requiring problem-solving during manufacturing

    medium · Scott: 'My cut that I did the video of has a bunch of bad geometry... I don't know, you just figure it out... I need a playfield with holes in it so I can just start drilling shit to it.'

  • ?

    design_philosophy: Scott Danesi's design preference for 80s solid-state simplicity over complex modern rulesets; favors short, challenging games that 'kick your ass' quickly

    high · Direct statement: 'I like the 80s stuff... solid state games from the 80s that were a little more simple... they're really hard. I don't have a very large attention span... you get your ass kicked, and you're done.'

  • ?

Transcript

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0:00
Yeah. We're back. I just set my cruise control to 69. Scott's got his cruise control bumping. I'm going to heat another Altoider 7 if you're into it. One and a half minutes is standard for video game music, and there's a huge market for video game OSTs.
0:25
Yeah. Nice. I would listen to TNA-OST. Okay. Alright. Cough it up, boys. Tater, good to see you. If we're back, thumbs up.
0:44
Someone donate one bit, and I want to see if the alert goes off. I think we fixed it. I set a minimum amount, and I'll tell you what it is. if this doesn't get screwed up.
1:03
Please don't talk with one bit. All right. Chair one, get bitty with it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Damn it.
1:21
I don't know what to do. I tried. That's okay. I might just turn the volume down. Yeah, it's okay too. Yeah.
Atari
company
Pinball Expoevent
Pinball Lifeorganization
Rob Zombieperson
Stargazergame
Taxigame
High Speedgame
Earth Shakergame
Microsoft HoloLensproduct
Twitch Plays Pinballproject

licensing_signal: TNA required name change from 'Total Annihilation' homebrew due to Atari trademark renewal; suggests active IP protection by legacy game companies affecting independent designers

high · Scott: 'The game was called Total Annihilation when it was just his homebrew machine. We had to legal it up a little bit... Atari renewed the trademark on a video game that they had... I think the timing just kind of was like a coincidence.'

  • $

    market_signal: Scott sold all DMD (dot-matrix display) era games from collection because resale value was very high; retained only preferred 80s solid-state titles (Taxi, High Speed, Earth Shaker, Doctor Dude, Bride of Pinbot, The Boss)

    high · Scott: 'I sold all my DMD games just because it was like they were really worth a lot... Keep yourself a Taxi and a High Speed... I teed off a Space Station Taxi... Earth Shaker, Doctor Dude, Bride of Pinbot, 2.0, the Boss.'

  • ?

    community_signal: Scott Danesi describes himself as 'a hack' who 'just screwed around' and 'just did stuff' that 'happened to work out'; contrasts with belief that designers need foundational knowledge in angles/math/geometry

    high · Scott: 'I haven't done anything like that, man... I just kind of screwed around. I'm a hack though you guys I just did stuff I just kind of happened to work out' vs. discussing need for 'base knowledge of angles and stuff' and 'math is a big thing'

  • ?

    product_strategy: TNA playfield durability testing conducted using $600 playfield with 200+ ball hits showing minimal damage; targeting 2 million test cycles to validate manufacturing resilience

    medium · Scott discusses unnamed person's test rig: 'He took a $600 playfield, just drilled a bunch of wood into it... that thing barely has a scratch on it after like... Was it tens or hundreds of thousands... He was at 200 hits on 200... it wasn't like it's not anywhere near where it wants to be. He has to run it like two million times.'

  • ?

    technology_signal: Scott actively developing augmented reality content integration for pinball streaming using Microsoft HoloLens; previously streamed KISS pinball with AR overlay

    medium · Scott: 'my buddy and I... brought over his Microsoft HoloLens for us to play on stream. We did some augmented reality stuff with... the KISS pinball machine. But we never got around to actually streaming that. And he's also the guy helping me work on the Twitch Plays Pinball box that we created.'

    • 1:32
    Just a bunch of cheese curds. Yo, you want an ad for some cheese curds? Get pity with it. Nah, nah, nah. Thank you for the bit. Though I do appreciate it. Thank you.
    1:43
    How about this? Everyone just donate dollars instead. Um, cool. Do we have any other questions? Do you have any questions for me? For Scott, for me. If not, we're just going to shoot the shit and do terrible Russian accents and talk about peepholes.
    1:59
    You guys missed a lot of inside jokes yesterday. You think this is bad neighborhood? I assure you it's bad neighborhood.
    2:12
    I got to tell you though, man. Lane assist. Lane assist on a car? Yeah, boy. That's where it's at. Do you know? Tier 1, take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone. In a day or two. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. thanks Moses that's amazing what's your favorite flavor of ice cream cookie dough for me I like a like a natural vanilla that has little bits of the vanilla bean in there so I do like when it's like the vanilla flavor is very strong yeah yeah that or something peanut buttery Something peanut buttery. I really like peanut butter.
    2:58
    I'm Jack. I like ice cream, not for peasants. It's true. It's got to be expensive. I like shaved truffles over the top of my ice cream.
    3:10
    What's it? Iberico ham chunks. I like chocolate ice cream with peanut butter in it. Oh, yeah. Lane assist.
    3:21
    I think I'm not. holding that steering wheel. Favorite toy mech in a game? Ooh. Favorite toy mech in a game. Um.
    3:33
    You know what's cool is that Jurassic Park Lost World thing where it goes like. Yeah, there you go. It comes on grab the ball like totally unnecessary. That one's pretty great. It's pretty funny. The first Jurassic Park 2 with like the dinosaur head that comes down and eats the ball is pretty good. That's cool.
    3:49
    Yeah, the toys in Pinball. There's lots of them, man. Yeah. What is yours? Yeah, I want to hear some other people's. That crap is not cool. It takes too long.
    4:03
    Pixelated Brewer. Nice. You're coming to Chicago? Hell yeah. All right, then. Favorite mech. It's a cool-ass toy. You know, the Judge Dredd Lost World thing is pretty neat. Yeah, if you have the Lost World, like, Dead World mod or whatever. Yeah, where it just locks the balls in. Yeah.
    4:22
    Oh, Bram Stoker's Dracula missed. Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah. Good call. That's it. Yeah, that thing's awesome. That's the shit. I love that thing. Title Fight Backbox is cool. I don't know if I know what that is. Oh, man. That's an old game.
    4:35
    Any Pitch and Bat that has runners? Nice. Yeah, I agree with that. I've seen the Pitch and Bat. Well, it's kind of like the one that they face the... Yeah, that Paul Reno was working on. Yeah, man.
    4:49
    Yeah, it's kind of cool. It's got the mechanical dudes in the back box that go up and down and run the bases. Yeah, the Champion Pub training parts are cool. The jump rope and the boxing bag. You guys know all this stuff. When is the next TNA stream? My veins are itching already.
    5:03
    Give me a little bit of time, man. I got some stuff I got to fix from that one last night. Best time to notice everything wrong is during a stream. Yeah, buddy. Now he can go back and watch it and see everything that was borked. Yep. I also misspelled free play. Did you know free play was two words? Did you know play field is two words? It is? Yeah, yeah. No. Play field is two words. Really? Yep. It will always be yelled at by any sort of, like, spelling application. Yeah, but is it...
    5:37
    Am I wrong if I write play field as one word? Are you wrong with writing free play as one word? Free play Florida isn't two words. Oh, yeah. Like Free play Playfield is one word No it's not I think it I always do it as one word Like when I say hey I write it as one word too Playfield is one word I always do it one word Maybe it's not grammatically correct Right But You know Anything planned in the coming weeks What do you mean pinball whiz It is one word according to the dictionary Well then Or wait What do you Look in the pinball dictionary, like on Pinsider. Playfield is one word when speaking about pinball. Okay, there you go. That's in the dictionary?
    6:22
    That won't be in the dictionary. The dictionary doesn't care about it. Oh, that wouldn't make any sense. No.
    6:29
    Is playfield in the dictionary as one word? No. Is free play in the dictionary as one word? Yeah, we see the truck. don't yell at us what's funny is I think the lane assist if I don't, if I just keep it in the lane and no we're not doing that right now Webster's Dictionary I see you're posting a link I obviously cannot click it yeah just tell us about it so the pinball was I still don't know what you're talking about, man. Scheduling in general. Are you talking to Scott? Are you talking to me? Are you talking about streaming? Are you talking about working on the game? Are you talking about my haircuts? I have one scheduled. Look at my hair. I got my haircut last week and I got, it's kind of bad. There's some parts of it up here that look like I've been chewed on by a cat. So, Playfield, one word in Webster. Cool, man. Oh, no way. That's good to know. I did not expect that. Because I get yelled at by my phone and my computer all the time for that. Look up Freeplay. Tell me what you find.
    7:45
    Freeplay is two words, though. I mean, that's like, that was just me typing the wrong thing. Get it a case nuclear. We left Wisconsin a long time ago, buddy.
    7:56
    Oh, streaming? Pinball Wiz, I still have to stream tonight. I guess I'm streaming right now. That was a gold escalator. Did you see that? Oh, it was? Yeah, there's a big, that's why. Free play is two words in Webster. Yeah.
    8:12
    I mean, it is. I mean, that's what it is. I mean, look at old, look at, like, Stern's Machines, look at, like, Williams Machines, all it says free space play.
    8:21
    Free play. Free play or pre-play. Pre-play. This game is on pre-play. This game, this game on pre-play. Pre-play? That's where you, uh, you, you pay for the game not to work.
    8:36
    because they break. Oh, man. They break with nothing. Gold Escalade? I thought Laura was in Michigan. Yeah. Yo, I'm making that freaking Twitch money, boys.
    8:51
    Jeez Louise. Don't worry. It was a vinyl wrap. It'll let the crap. There you go. Vinyl wrap. Mm-hmm.
    9:00
    Look at this busted down barn right here. That one actually fell. That one did fall down. Yeah. I don't see any cows or horses making around. No, there won't be. It's like they got the expensive stuff out of there. There are two. Oh, there's some nice trucks back there. Man, I want an old truck really bad. Get one. Being a pinball designer, I thought y'all would be in a limo.
    9:21
    No. Internet. If you want to make a lot of money, this is not the hobby to do it in. Correct. Chair 1, what are feelings? I am robot. I want to feel. What's the temperature like out there?
    9:39
    69? 78. 78? 78 degrees. What are feelings? I'm going to see your ding dong. What are feelings? Yeah, I got a feeling. Show me how to love. Okay. I'm going to show you how to get banned, you nerd. thanks for the bits dude too many bits it's over 100 here today damn 100 degrees no thanks I need to we gotta finish up the dead flip animation for the flipper code stuff and we also are going to use Scott's design document so whatever we design for TNA fits the theme and it fits the objective that you need to hit.
    10:32
    Chair one, who bans the band man? Are you at work, dude? I know Eric's at work. I'm calling your dad. Nice basket.
    10:49
    That's a pinball machine, baby. How well can you see this? Can you see that pretty well? Because our screen's all covered up.
    10:56
    Total nuclear. Scott, you'd ever think of re-theming TNA for a different audience? What audience?
    11:13
    Golden Girls. Nursing Home Pinball. Kiss Custodiate I'm sorry, I don't... Take Your Medication Multiball. I can't read that.
    11:26
    Blanche has a date. Hurry up. Retheming TNA. Internet, let me ask you a question. Would you pay to get a TNA that has zero artwork, complete white wood,
    11:51
    complete just blank, clear, or white plastics, like nothing on it? A license theme for kids? This game isn't for adults or kids. There's no swears in this. There's no... It's fairly clean, which is interesting.
    12:13
    I didn't mean to do that, but it is. Yeah. Yeah, the artwork completes the package. Yeah. And you know what? You wouldn't want to sell a whitewood version anyway. I mean, Matt works so hard doing all that hard stuff. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is how it's supposed to be. it's not supposed to be a white wood.
    12:30
    If that makes sense. Yeah, man. It's who watches the Watchmen in line. Oh, dang. You fancy. We got some industrial mowers. They are mowing.
    12:47
    Mowing. Yo, girl, you a faucet because you mowing. That doesn't make any sense. Mowing? mowing faucets yeah I get you right the company got you mowing the lawn doesn't make any sense the art is great but I would pay for the pure white as well it would all get covered in scribbles and stickers though kids man that's pretty funny you know what would be cool is to have like a white wood right and in the trough is like a contraption that a printer would use to keep ink in there. Right? So the balls would get re-inked in the trough. You'd launch it, and then it would just create cool patterns all over the white wood. Back in the trough. Eventually it just turns completely solid color. Yeah. Gets re-dipped. Maybe change out the cartridge for a red now. Yeah. Play a little different, see what happens. Yeah. Then you do like, you got like blue down first, and then you do red on top. Yeah, man. Missed yesterday's stream. Does the art tell you what the inserts mean? Yes. There is explanations all over the play field. Are you guys high on pot?
    14:09
    No. What's P-O-T stand for? Oh, potatoes? Potatoes. Yeah, man. Good. Dog, we have so many potatoes. I am lit on freaking hash browns right now. Oh, my God. Actually, that sounds pretty good. Yeah, it does sound really good.
    14:24
    Some hash browns. High on... I don't even know what that word is. Yeah, potatoes. Potenuous? Potenuous. Yeah, that's it. Potenuous.
    14:36
    Everyone knows what a potenuous is. Fried on french fries, that's us. Dude, you're a potenuous. Potenuous. It's Friday, who isn't stoned? Yeah, there you go.
    14:47
    When did the official deal to make it happen after the last Whitewoods stream was spooky? Oh, was it after the last Whitewoods stream was spooky? No. Yeah, we're keeping it a secret for a while. I was at a video shoot in Savannah, Illinois Not far from where you are right now shooting potatoes
    15:05
    Like with a potato cannon Or like setting potatoes up and then shooting Potato guns are fun I'm gonna smoke out of a potato
    15:21
    Yeah, buddy Scott, you think Jack has what it takes to be a good designer like you? What? To be a, what is that word? A pin designer like you. Pin designer. I haven't done anything like that, man. Jack needs to do it. Listen, I got the ideas, but I don't have, like, I think you can have all the ideas in the world, but there's, like, a base knowledge of angles and stuff that you need to be able to wrap your head around. Yeah, math is a big thing, too. and uh what's up Frankie I don't know I just I kind of just screwed around I'm a hack though you guys I just did stuff I just kind of happened to work out I just did stuff so here's what I need a play field with holes in it so I can just start drilling shit to it yeah that's what we need so Ben Heck actually uses foam core to build prototype MMO machines yeah um that might be interesting way to do it too. Foam core, huh? Foam core, yeah. He builds everything out of foam core and hot glue and stuff. Just to see if he can get the angles right, you know? Like a star post, you know? Does he actually hook coils up to it for flippers? No, I don't think so. He just does it to get the angles down. But he might. I don't know, actually. Spooky didn't give you some playfield? Guys, calm down. no with that I wish we could have gotten some pictures or some video of that test rig that's going on right now hmm he did a little bit I would have loved to freaking show him the internet that man hopefully he records something because it's too freaking cool it's super smart he took a brand new He took a $600 playfield, just drilled a bunch of wood into it to make sure the ball was hitting stuff that would otherwise be destroyed on regular games. To test how much they can beat their new playfields up And that thing barely has a scratch on it after like Was it tens or hundreds of thousands of like ball He was at 200 hits on 200 Holy crap, but it wasn't like it's not anywhere near where it wants to be. He has to run it like two million times Use low temp glue gun Jack. Okay
    17:52
    So, low temp glue gun. I want to build a small pinball machine. That I can bring with me like a suitcase. Who made that folding up pinball machine? Aaron from Fast and Furious. That was Fast, yeah.
    18:07
    That thing was heavy as fuck. Oh yeah, it's a pinball machine. Yeah, it's a pinball machine. Stupid things way too much. Yep. We'll figure it out. Aaron, there you go. JP Patches, what's up, stud? Next year we'll be streaming Jack's Pin at Spooky. Alright, let's go. Do it.
    18:29
    Blank, we didn't think we'd be able to sell a pinball machine about people getting super drunk and passing out and the miraculous things they do while they're drunk.
    18:38
    Yeah, it's coming. Next time I cut a playfield, I'll cut you a lower third and mail it to you. Nice. Let's freaking go. Who said that?
    18:56
    Um. I can't read your name. It's blue, though. Blue? Uh. I freaking can't read your name. Dude, say your name. It's a sub. I can't read your name. It's a sub. Type your name.
    19:13
    Check whatever happened to the TV show. Oh, it's Wolf Marsh. Dude, Wolf. Thank you, stud. Oh, Wolf Marsh. Oh, hell yeah. Thank you, thank you. Check whatever happened to the TV show. Can't talk about it. Thank you, Wolf. It's me, Wolf Marsh. It's me. Your name is impossible to read right now with the background that we have. I think I might have accidentally said Wolf Marsh's real name on the stream. Nah, no one cares. Well, now that you brought it up, now we're going to go look for it. Like, crap, I really should have said my social security number. You son of a bitch. Moses. Moses, you're banned from donating one penny and making a mockery of this stream.
    19:52
    Just drinking a road beer. I mean water. So the lower third of the pinball machine, what does that do for me? That's the Italian bottom, dude. Yeah. That's good. Because then you can like bolt some flipper coils to it. Some slingshots. Yeah. Some lane guides. Yeah.
    20:14
    What do I do with the upper? How do I do stuff with? The upper play field? Yeah. You just start drawing on the wood with a pencil. oh I'm a fucking moron what I thought you meant was you were going to take the whole plate field and then chop just the lower third of it off for me no no and give it to me so I can just put coils on it well that's not gonna do shit for me man cool I mean I'll take it it's a blank plate field with the bottom third cut wolf that would be fucking amazing pardon my french absolutely I will take that. I am a moron. Holy moly. The bits. The bitties. The bowl was filled with water. It's really vodka. Wait, what do you call it? Like water. Oh, from the toilet. Yes. At least from the toilet. I'll be cutting another playfield in September. Hell yeah, That'd be great, dude. Thank you so much. I would love that. Love, love, love it.
    21:26
    Then we just do a stream where we freaking draw on it with a pencil and try to figure out cool stuff. Yeah. And then when you're ready, you start cutting into it. And then you throw it in the garbage and you get another one. Yeah.
    21:40
    That's what happens. You should see my first whitewoods. I got them sitting at home still, like the very first whitewoods a cup for a total innovation.
    21:48
    You should put those on eBay or something. Let's go. Finally finish that total recoup. We'll base it on the movie Twins, though. So one side of the pinball machine will be smaller for Danny DeVito, but you'll get more points over there, right? And... Oh my god, Scott, that has been my life. So many playfields that didn't work out. Oh yeah, I just have a stack of them in my garage. I don't know what to do with them. I was using them for like testing feeds and speeds on my CNC, so like some of them have like lines just like cutting them with the router. Nice. Ooh, a router. I need a garage, man. Yeah, garages are freaking sweet. I think I would like to forego my storefront for like a really giant warehouse that I could have tools in. You can't have tools in your shop? I can, but it's just like, I don't know. It was an old hair salon.
    22:40
    Is there still hair in the floor? No. There's lots of cool hookups for sinks if I wanted sinks everywhere.
    22:48
    Um, my cut that I did the video... Wait, my cut that I did the video of has a bunch of bad geometry. Oh, for your Muppets game?
    23:00
    Jack with power tools. Oh, yeah. I don't know, you just figure it out. When you get power tools, you figure out how to be safe with them. What kind of pin hauler is this? Clearly he can have tools in his shop. I mean, look at him. Am I right? am I right this is the best kind of pin holler ladies and gentlemen it is a Honda CRV I also own a CRV works out really well Moses thank you for your bit
    23:30
    oh geez everybody should not go to expo this year why would you say that what's happening at Expo oh really I don't want to read your time
    23:51
    I don't know it is what it is life open house can be fun yeah BB love you too bud yeah the pinball life open house. I've never actually gone to it. And that's very disappointing. But I have gone to Pinball Life to have conversations with Terry and he explained why the party doesn't get as big and crazy anymore. Or maybe he was just trying to convince me that it doesn't a big Christmas. Um, I don't know. Coin taker was going to, was going to, oh, that's all right. Oh really? Everyone's passing. I'm going to expo. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people back down the fender. Rob Anthony, multi-morphic. Coin taker was going to, but they caved. Man, that stinks. Um, maybe, I don't, you know what, this isn't something I'd like to talk about right now, if that's okay. Not enough facts. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll, we'll talk, we'll talk about this later, if that's alright. Let's talk about fun stuff, like driving on a highway. So we're on 39 to 90 going to Wisconsin, Chicago.
    25:22
    We're turning out to 90 east pretty soon. Turning on and out of east. Only 41 minutes from my house. Really? Yeah. This is, oh, I guess it's only like a two-hour drive. Yeah, it's not bad. Yeah. Yeah, there was a big question, or I guess a misunderstanding about the laser-cut side rails on this. Those are standard on every game.
    25:53
    The total nuclear annihilation side rails, that is on every single machine. The same thing with the topper siren-looking thing. That's there, too. What is Scott's favorite classic stern?
    26:12
    There's a lot of good ones though. Mine would be Stargazer. Stargazer's pretty awesome. Yeah. There are more... Lightning is good. Yeah, there are more in-depth ones, that is for sure. You know what's surprisingly fun? Stars. Stars is great. Yeah. Chair punch jack. Would you go to a punk rock festival or a pinball show? I can decide.
    26:40
    Would you go to a punk rock festival or a pinball show? In two miles, take the I-90 east exit towards Chicago. Depends what pinball show, right? Yeah. Depends what punk rock concert. It's true.
    26:51
    Like if it was Rancid in 1994. But I would have to be Jack Danger from 1994. Like if I, well no, if I like time traveled to 1994, I wouldn't want to deal with any of those fucking kids. Oh yeah, good point. At all. Yeah, I could not I wouldn't be able to handle or stand any of those kids But it was jacked from 1994. I would be all over that stuff for talking like
    27:17
    That's tough stuff He likes classic WMS spectrums fun Iron Maiden is actually a beautiful pinball machine Never played it.
    27:32
    Yeah, the game was called Total Annihilation when it was just his homebrew machine. We had to legal it up a little bit. Yep. Atari renewed the trademark on a video game that they had.
    27:44
    On purpose. I don't think on purpose. I think they're actually rebranding it. I think the timing just kind of was like a coincidence. Yeah. That they did that.
    27:58
    How's the sun glare? Is it pretty bad? I'm not trying to get into it. Punk and drubly by NoFX. Yeah, man.
    28:12
    Think that'll reach? Yep. Oh, almost. How about it? No. In a half mile, take the I-90 east exit toward Chicago. Has Scott played any shmups? What's shmups? Shoot-'em-ups. Like, you know games where you're playing and you're shooting up at a bunch of shit flying around, like Bullet Hill sort of games? Dude, I played the HTC Vive.
    28:36
    That was pretty good. I played this game where I was shooting, I don't know, alien spaceships or something. Nice. You ever done that virtual reality thing? Yeah. Oh my god, dude. It's crazy. Yeah. I streamed it once. I was able to get a direct feed out from one of those things. Yeah. I did it from the Microsoft lens, and it was augmented reality. That's cool. It was even freaking cooler. It was nuts. That's weird, man. The vibe is off the chain. Yeah, it's freaking crazy, man. It's really expensive, though.
    29:10
    I couldn't justify it. Looks like a 33 Abrams, a JJ Abrams. Continue on I-90 East for 34 miles. He's gonna start telling me where I live. Yeah, you tell me when to kill it. I'll kill the navigation when we get close. Okay, yeah, yeah. Like, you are now five minutes away from 123 Fart Street. Damn it.
    29:34
    You're working on an augmented reality right now? Nice, dude. That's cool. Yeah, my buddy and I, the guy that brought over his Microsoft HoloLens for us to play on stream, We did some augmented reality stuff with a, I think it was the KISS pinball machine.
    29:55
    But we never got around to actually streaming that. And he's also the guy helping me work on the Twitch Plays Pinball box that we created.
    30:03
    What made Scott pick an 80s vibe on the machine? I like 80s stuff. Yeah. Also, like, the Solid State games from the 80s that were a little more simple. I just, I like the gameplay. I like the fact that they're really hard. I don't have a very large attention span, so things like those games, they, you know, you're in there, you get your ass kicked, and you're done. And you go back for more if you want, or you don't, you know?
    30:27
    It's nice. But I can't play stuff like Lord of the Rings, first of all. I'm not really that great at pinball, so I don't really even play Lord of the Rings that long. But, like, if it ends up being a super long game, it's, like, it's just not that fun. Yeah. SLC, love you, buddy. Had to treat myself expired? No. Do we have a Fiero stream? Oh.
    30:47
    Does Scott own any 80s games? Yeah. He's got mostly just 80s games. Um. I sold all my DMD games just because it was like they were really worth a lot of money. Yep.
    31:06
    Keep yourself a taxi and a high speed. Now I got a space station taxi. high speed earth shaker doctor dude bride of him about 2.0
    31:26
    the boss keep yeah we'll just leave it at that there's a little bit what's in the back there fellas it's a TNA you're watching a TNA stream wrong channel bro wrong channel
    31:48
    what's in the back there toga amalgamation yes it's a it's a Lola taxi not a Maryland taxi yeah I think they make less Lola's like I don't understand like there's this This always goes back and forth and people argue about this. Yeah, I'm not sure which one's more rare. Yeah, I'm not sure either. I think it's like a 50-50. Yeah. People are always like... Oh, you gotta get the Maryland. But... Yeah. Level one, they didn't make many up. The ballet class of 1981 is your favorite? The ballet class of 1980? So the single level ballets, the... No, class of 1981 was a pinball machine.
    32:29
    I don't know what that is. Wasn't it like a bunch of spooky crap all over the playfield? No, that's the Gottlieb class of 18-something. 70-something? Yeah.
    32:40
    That's actually Rob Zombie's favorite PMA machine. Nice. Like, the actual Rob Zombie dude. Did I buy a TNA?
    32:52
    You mean, did you guys pay for me to buy a TNA yet? We'll get there. Yeah, just need more bits. we're gonna need a lot more beds class of 1812 that's it class of 1812 yeah that's Gottlieb their premiere whatever they changed it to yeah that was a premiere did you know that Gottlieb was bought by Columbia Pictures movie studio and then Columbia Pictures had them change their name to something weird and then the company sort of flopped after that and then they turned into Premiere after they started selling everything off. Yeah. Columbia Pictures owned Gottlieb Pimble. That's crazy. I'm watching this on the train and it's making me motion sick. Well, because you're on a train and you're moving and we're moving.
    33:57
    Blue Continental. Where are you going, Crystal? Is that a shocker sticker on the back of that guy's car? Sure is. Hold on. No, it's the opposite. It's this. What the hell is that? He's missing his middle finger? No, it's like a... It's one in the pink and two in the pink. Two in the pink? Yeah, that's what that is.
    34:20
    I wonder if Steel Panther wrote a song about that. Probably. Are you streaming tonight too, Jack? I don't know what I'm doing. I actually have to go meet my family in Michigan. They've been on vacation without me.
    34:37
    You're traveling to headquarters to practice flipper skills. There you go. If that's all you're interested in, you might as well go to a place where the games are free.
    34:47
    Do you boys like to party? Do we ever. Do we ever Wait do we ever Yeah ever Do we ever I can read your name but it looks like the last part of it says schlong
    35:05
    It's a funny word, I wonder where that came from. Schlong? Yeah, it's just funny. It's like the word chode, it's just funny. You can't say it without kind of smiling a little bit, you know? Such a chode. Yeah, like... You know? a stupid grin if anybody's there. Oh, man. Watching you. Let's go. Purple shirt. Purple t-shirt. Are you wearing the same shirt, Crystal? I also got a, uh, that's my hoodie. That's TNA. Here we go. This is a Rob Zombie shirt, right? I don't know what that is. It's the Revenge of the Pinball Monster. Spooky shirt.
    35:53
    Chuck literally opened up the doors and said, just grab whatever you want. And then I did. In the marketing closet? Yep.
    36:03
    I also stole some trade secrets. Some flipper coils. One bulb, because I only needed one. I don't want to be greedy.
    36:15
    I'm going to get a TNA shirt. I'm waiting for the spooky shaker to be put on PBL. Nice. Yeah, my whole wardrobe is pinball t-shirts. Yeah, we'll get the shaker up on this side real fast.
    36:39
    So many pinball tees. Oh, buddy. Yeah, we're not far away, but there's still so much corn. Yeah, lots of corn. For sure. The internet should be pretty good around here, though. Yeah. It looks like it. Is everything looking better?
    37:00
    Unless you guys want to throw in a shaker. Oh! I think you missed your chance there, buddy. Yeah, Terry donated five shakers last night. Yeah, that was huge. That was crazy. that's very awesome we gotta get rid of that exclamation point player command we gotta get rid of design yeah I gotta change all those it got considerably better when you got on the highway yeah beautiful day for a drive I agree so when I eventually get home I'm gonna be hopping on my motorcycle and driving to Michigan.
    37:46
    I'm not streaming it. Is that a cycle with a motor on it? It's a cycle with a motor. Oh, a knee just came off. I was thinking about streaming it, but I'm not going to.
    37:57
    For the love of God, alphabetize them and add spooky. There you go. I don't want to permanently add any manufacturers in our commands. I'm just going to leave the spooky one up there for a while. Should we love it? Yeah.
    38:13
    For the love of God, alphabetize them. Listen, you... How about this? Can you alphabetize those for me and then, like, send them to me in a Facebook message or something? Is that you all anonymous? Yeah. Exclamation point, spoopy.
    38:29
    Spoopy. Spoopy pants. What was that guy's name last night? I'm freaking out again. uh new new new new new new new dude that was such a great Rick and Morty episode did you guys see the most recent Rick and Morty episode oh my Atlanta it's great spoiler spoiler yeah new new yeah that's right it's so good It was so good. Yeah, it was pretty incredible.
    39:15
    Noob Noob? I don't think it was Noob Noob. I guess it... It's hard to tell. Noob Noob? That world ender was a badass mofo. Yeah, he was.
    39:30
    It made up for a decidedly weak Game of Thrones episode for sure. Dang. Oh, it was N-O-O-B. Oh was it? Yeah Noop noop Yeah Noop noop Yeah that was very good A little rollercoaster It's okay I'm getting all emotional Oh man Does anyone have any more questions for old Scott Denise about TNA.
    40:12
    Is he a T guy? Is he an A guy? We'll never know. Never know. Apparently millennials don't like boobs. That's something someone said recently. Yeah, we was talking about that. I don't know. It's like, can you believe millennials don't like boobs? I don't think it was Chuck. No, it was the other guy. Yeah, the other guy. The other guy. Yeah.
    40:31
    What a weird thing to bring up at dinner. Or lunch. What? Where did you see that? I don't even know where you saw that.
    40:44
    I was just making the T guy joke. Question. Is that your production proto back again or is the production line number zero? It's my production prototype. I need to do some coding on the actual machine because this matches the production machine except there's some hard differences.
    41:06
    It's good enough for me to program on it. Nice. My other whitewood doesn't have the ability to put a shaker in it or a physical knocker.
    41:15
    So this one, this one's got it. How did you go from drawing on the playfield to CAD, and what CAD did you use? I used SolidWorks because I am an engineer, so I have SolidWorks. it's very expensive shit ain't cheap but so I went from drawing in the thing I kind of I don't know I only drew on the play field just a little bit and then from there I just started building it in the computer it was easier for me I was able then to draw out all the lines, the shot lines and the return lines. And then there I just started cutting play fields. And I actually have like a little inexpensive CNC machine in my garage so it helps, you know, being able to just cut a play field. You made that CNC machine, right? No, it's something called an hex carb. I think Wolf Marsh has the same one. I think the extensions are two different files. I cut it once and then I slide it up and then I cut another when things are all lined up. It works really well. I did a little write-up on it on my website on how it works.
    42:38
    Yeah, the X-Carb's pretty good. And it's pretty inexpensive. I think it was only $1,200. I'm a millennial and prefer entire human. Entire humans, not just parts of them. Yeah, right. That's probably why the survey was bad. They're like, do you like boobs? I prefer... Yeah, but if they're on a body, and I like bodies too. I don't really like severed boobs. An X-Carve, huh? Yeah, X-Carve's good. Are they... It's a company called Inventables. Is it pretty expensive? It's like $1,200, I think, when I got it. Internet, we need an X-Carve. Yeah, someone look that up and see what they're doing. Do we know someone at X-Carve that can hook us up for a sponsorship? That'd be awesome. We'll just start making freaking random shit. Steve Ritchie told me that I should start with CAD and get good at it. You should get good at CAD. CAD will go a long way no matter what you do. Yeah. Engineering-wise, oh, man, if you want to make freaking boxes for crayons, like, just engineering anything.
    43:40
    Yep. I use, I'm a big 3D animator, and I'm designing stuff in 3D all the time, and it's essentially, like, it's CAD, but more dimensional at times instead of, like, the sort of flat-down, super mega-precise stuff. It has three. Yeah. I have three dimensions. I show you. You do two, I do three. You think this two dimension? You think this enough dimensions? Remind all young viewers out there to take breaks and stretch and hydrate. Yes. Got it. Will do. Agreed. Also protect your hearing people when you go to concerts. Oh my god, absolutely. You're gonna regret not doing it. I have done some damage. I'll tell you, Yeah, I have lots of, I guess the term is floaters on my eyes. There's like cuts in my eyes from just being an idiot and not wearing protective eyewear and stuff. So every time I look around, there's a trail of like little black dots and different shapes and stuff that are extremely distracting.
    44:45
    Like right now that it's really bright, there's like a line here, a black dot here, and a black dot here. when they move around, they just, they travel, and it's, uh, it's almost, it's almost maddening, I know nothing about math or engineering, but still want to make pins, do it, yeah, just do it, you can just build stuff, you don't really have to know math or engineering to build a pinball machine, but, um, you just, you just start building stuff, I mean, if you know how to work on pinball machines and you've taken them on machines apart and put them back together it's like the same thing so you're just kind of making it up as you go also if you just want something quick and flipping just is there okay is there a template out there
    45:35
    there there's a few things that I can't connect until I get started designing right so you're saying that using VPX probably isn't the way to start I don't know but that's just like personal yeah I wouldn't use a virtual demo machine thing to do that I mean it's I guess it kind of good to play around yeah So is there, like, where do you get the template or dimensions for, like, play fields and stuff like that? Well, I just measured it. There's not, like, a resource out there? There is. Yeah, there's a website called pinballmakers.com. Okay. Which has a bunch of stuff like that. But the way I did it was I took the Dolly Parton play field that I had. Yeah. I just measured it, like, it's this long by this wide. And then I just started drawing the, like, little, like, the trough hole thing and this and that. and then eventually I started using Pinball Life trough, so I ripped that out, put a new trough hole in, and, you know, I just kept modifying it until it was what it is. That's awesome. Pinballmakers.com, there you go. Yeah, pinballmakers.com. I'm not sure who actually runs that website, but they have a lot of stuff on there, but just be careful when you download stuff. You're going to actually get something cut. Make sure you verify it, because I've downloaded some things before off there just for fun, just to cut them, and some of the dimensions were off. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, I don't know if it's like they verify them or what. I'm not really sure exactly.
    47:08
    Do you want to call? Nah, that's fine. Okay. His mom's calling. My wife's always making jokes like, you guys have kids? We're like, no, but my wife has a 35-year-old. 35-year-old? That's cute.
    47:28
    I think you're more the tinkering type. where you just need to drill holes and glue stuff to see what looks good. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. I'm into that.
    47:39
    I just want to dump a bucket of stuff. And you know what would be cool also is to, like, also, you know, if you wanted to add a ramp to a game, you could try making your own, or there's a lot of back stock of, you know, Adam's Family ramps and stuff out there that are Twilight Zone ramps. Yeah, people have ramps that they pulled that are just like scratched up or something that they pulled out of their machines and replaced with new stuff. You can go on the website and just be like, hey, want to buy any old ramp, you know, or a Twilight Zone ramp or whatever. People have them. They're sitting around. People won't throw them away. That's the thing. Yeah. Don't pull an old ramp out that's not as good as the one that they have.
    48:21
    Just keep it. Keep it forever. Yeah. And then you're like, hey, this will sell. Yeah. They're out there.
    48:30
    After seeing TNA, Ramos seems less appealing to me. What does that mean? Blue Continental, what are you talking about? What's Ramos?
    48:42
    Is it like John Stamos' brother? Ramos? John Ramos and John Stamos. We're still brothers for some reason. I don't know.
    48:53
    I want to re-theme a hook into a Goonies. Someone actually worked on a Goonies machine. They went a long way. There's a whole blog about it. Was it a Hollywood Heat that they rethemed? I think so.
    49:05
    I've 3D printed a ramp and it works okay. Yeah, Spooky 3D prints ramps all the time for testing. They do. You gotta do it. Ramps, not ramps. Oh, ramps look less appealing to you. I see. Well, you don't necessarily... I mean, so, I'm not against ramps. Like, people think that I hate ramps or something. You don't just put a ramp in a game, though, because it needs a ramp. No, it doesn't have to have a ramp. In the game that I was going for, I didn't put any ramps. I just didn't put ramps in it. Like, there was just... I didn't purposely set out and say, like, I'm not putting ramps in this game. Right. I just didn't put a ramp in the game. Yeah. I just didn't. I think you were staying true to the era of the, like, Dolly Parton sort of thing. Yeah, but there are still really good 80s games that do have ramps. Like, you know, Firepower 2, right, has that ramp that goes over the top. Like Xenon, it's got a ramp technically. Yeah, going right through the thing. Yeah.
    49:59
    Like those era games did have ramps sometimes. My favorite thing about TNA is that it has no ramps. It's a clear open play field that you can see everything at all times. Yep. There you go. It's easy to clean too. Yeah.
    50:14
    There's nothing to get under. You just go at it. Sorcerer? Yeah. Sorcerer. Sorcerer does have a ramp though. I'm a big fan of Zachariah style ramps. What's that? Yeah. I know a few Zachariah games like Robot Head. The Zachariah Robot, that's like a badass game. I've never played that one. Oh, right. It's cool. They got like little robot heads that pop out of the play field and stuff. Huh. But it has like a ramp too that like kind of goes up and like loops around and then comes back around. Yeah, it's kind of cool. Dang. Yeah. Cool ramp dog. Mm-hmm. Cool Ramos. Randy Ramos. Rondi Ramos. Rondi Ramos. Ramos estamos.
    50:59
    Ramos estamos. They don't necessarily need ramps though. U-shaped ramp for the robo ramp. Wow, this truck just came on over. Yeah, he's like, I just want to go over here and go 30 on the highway.
    51:14
    You like the right ramp in Junkyard? The right ramp in Junkyard. I have to think about this. I really do like... Hold on. The right ramp in Junkyard? The one that flips over the top. The U ramp. The dog. The doghouse ramp. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a short little one. Yeah, I love that stuff, man. Those are fun. If I was going to do a ramp, I'd definitely do a ramp. Because those are quick, and they're not really in the way. Yeah, those are really cool. I like that a lot, actually.
    51:38
    I like it in Junkyard, too. I think they were planning... If you look real close at Junkyard, it's interesting, because that game has a lot of open area that wasn't used on the right upper side, where pop-overs could have been. Yep. And, uh, I think that ramp, that little, like, new flippy ramp for the doghouse, I think that, uh, it was, like, supposed to go down. Oh. Kind of like the, the Hyperloop ramp in Star Trek, or Star Wars Premium, right? Yeah. It, like, goes up and down. That thing's awesome. Yeah, I think, I think it's like that, but you can, like, shoot through it, but they never, like, did it. You can shoot through it, but it's gotta be lit. Um, what about the Guile ramp in Street Fighter 2? I'm not super familiar with that I've never played Street Fighter 2.
    52:18
    I probably should though Is it the same as the monkey ramp on Pirates of the Caribbean yes it the yeah that quick little thing right next to the chest oh yeah yeah it comes back around I love that style I hate that area it's such a waste of space oh the chest wait yeah balls get stuck up there oh really Crystal do you know where you're at balls get stuck in it I mean, in that space?
    52:50
    Yeah. I think it was. Oh my god. What the hell? You just got blown it. Whoa, dude, that was practical. Whoa, that was like right there. Dude.
    53:06
    That was a little too close for comfort. What would you have done if that just like flew up and like, click, click, click, click, the screen just like shattered immediately. We were just going like, frick.
    53:19
    If all of the rubbers... Wait. If all the rubbers are there, the balls should not get stuck. Oh, on the POTC area there. Oh, is there just like the rubbers go missing or something? Yeah. So that ramp also exists. Like, whodunit.
    53:37
    Yeah, it has that where it comes up and drops down, and then it goes through one of those lanes. Yeah, it's kind of cool. That ramp is really neat.
    53:49
    Hooten? Yeah, folks, Scott and I were talking on our way here, and I mentioned I had some cool ideas for gimmicks on pinball machines, and he's like, absolutely do not tell me. Yeah.
    54:06
    Because everyone has those moments where you're like, oh, I got the best idea, and this is totally original, and then you're like, wait a second. yeah like I was writing rules for this game like oh that would be freaking sweet man I'm like oh I don't I've never seen that anywhere you know and I like do it and I'm like you know that's actually really close to like this other thing that I liked in this other thing you know it's a subconscious like if someone comes up to me and tells me like oh I got this great idea this original thing I'm gonna build a machine with it and then like that I'm like oh cool you know awesome you know go do that but like then all of a sudden like that's in my subconscious memory Now that's kind of jacked up because like what if one day that comes out and I don't necessarily... You might build a whole pin around that and then realize later like, oh, Frank.
    54:52
    So that's something you've got to really watch out for. Music is also, when you write music, that you have to be very careful of too because there's a lot of subconscious melodies that you may have heard somewhere and now you've written something you think is all original, but it's actually just like a derivative of something. It's an entire Aerosmith song. Yeah. you're like, love in an elevator, yes, going down, yeah, we got this, dude, I'm gonna make a song called, dude looks like a lady, dude looks like a lady, so is that song, like, I don't know, you guys, does anyone know a lot about Aerosmith, because, like, does that song actually, is that really about a dude that looks like a chick, or is that, like, I mean, is that, like, a song about Steven Tyler, I don't know, like, what is that, like, is it, like, a slang thing, like, maybe He's singing that song because so many people have said that to him. I mean, he's got long hair. I mean, a lot of people, a lot of guys from the 80s and stuff dress like that.
    55:48
    Dude looks like a lady. I don't know. What the heck is that song? And like, what a song to write, dude.
    55:58
    It was about hair metal bands, I think. Oh, is that what it was? It was like Steven Tyler kind of looked like a lady then. Yeah, how does he get to freaking say anything? Yeah.
    56:10
    They all did. Mm-hmm. They all had luxurious long hair. Yeah, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. I'm just saying this is what it is. It was about a guy in a bar that someone was drunkenly hitting on in a bar one night. That's funny. That their manager was hitting on. Nice. That's really funny. come on yeah anyway if that's true that's pretty funny because the managers are just like they're like hey man yeah go ahead on that shit he's so wasted go ahead on that shit he's like the nerdy guy he's just like okay the song which originally started out as cruising for a lady talks about a male with a feminine appearance who was mistaken for a female. Steven Tyler states in a book called Walk This Way,
    57:10
    one day we met Motley Crue and they're all going, dude, dude, this and dude that, everything was dude, looks like a lady came out of that session.
    57:22
    All right, well. No, it wasn't that good. That sucks. But the manager was hitting us. You know what, the manager story is what's taken. Yeah, I like that. That's what it should have been.
    57:34
    That dude looks like a lady, man. Like, someone shared a private folder with him. My notifications are going nuts right now.
    57:44
    Lame, right? Yeah, it's pretty bummer. Steven Tyler. Liv Tyler from Empire Records. I like that movie. Yeah. Empire Records is a lot of fun would you want to join the band he's high on my shoes oh man damn that was a great movie that's like my some quotes are so great from those older movies like Happy Gilmore has so many great quotes too like the guy that has a golf ball on his foot Yeah. It's so dumb.
    58:32
    He's like, that's two for you. And it's like, oh, you can count. And the guy, the big old guy, is like kind of dumb and huge. And you can count on me waiting for you in the parking lot. He's like, oh, my God. You can count.
    58:47
    Sizzler? Yeah, man. Nymph. Like, who comes all the way out to... what for new haven displays yeah I feel like I've been in there before how do you even get over there for some weird reason it's a castle
    59:11
    that's why I've been there oh when you do the man yeah I was there recently I Are we close close? Yeah. Like.
    59:25
    Oh. Yeah. We can. You just give the word man. And we can kill it. Okay. I'm not going to figure out where I live from now.
    59:39
    Yeah. Don't. Internet. Don't look. So I might almost hit something. I hope so. I didn't hit my. My pass on. I mean, it's... Yeah, it is. It's in the car. Yeah, it is. I'm sure it worked. It is.
    59:52
    The government knows. The government knows where I'm at. The government knows where I'm at at all times.
    60:00
    Yeah, dude. Yeah. This was fun. Yesterday was a blast. Mm-hmm. I broke my dietary plan pretty hard the last couple days.
    60:13
    Everything's so green there. Living in the desert. All I see is brown. Ooh, sorry, tater. Oh, yeah, stuff's green here. It's a little dry right now. It's not like you did not tell us where you live 10 to 15 times the other night. Oh, yeah. Now they know where I live. Oh, well. Whatever. Who cares? You guys are fine. Pizza, boys! I ate a lot of pizza.
    60:36
    Later, bub. Lots of pizza? Yeah. Dude, it was like pizza. Yeah, we ate pizza like every time. Yeah. We only went to Lawrence's once. Like, let's get lunch. Pizza! What did we get for dinner? No, we only went the one time to oh man, they've got like good burgers and stuff, too We live in an alternate timeline our simulation rebooted about 15 years ago I've been doing extensive research on this anomaly and some personal stuff. I can't read
    61:02
    Getting crazy our shit rebooted 15 years ago. Let me think where was I 15 years ago? ago. 15. I have to do the math. How old was I 15 years ago? Oh wait, that's, uh, I was 20. You were 20. So I was 21. So I was still in college actually, I think, at 20. Where was I when I was 21? This stream is the most relaxing I've seen in a while. Well, welcome to Driving in Cars with Pinball Designers. I'm your host, Jack Danger. Let's get some stuff it's funny like I think there's a live stream I think a dead mouse or something does live streams of him driving around with like famous people in his car really yeah they just drive around the top that's cool yeah might be illegal I guess if he's not the one you're anything okay yeah you're not interacting with chat you're fine no it wasn't interacting with chat yeah you could do whatever you want as long as like because this is the ultimate form of texting and driving just turn on the lean assist and then go for it jack is a world-ranked pinball player yeah I am NOT a pinball designer no we'll get there I'm just gonna come into the industry create three amazing pinball machines that everyone loves forever and then bounce it's been done before it can happen again yeah buddy internet Google Brian Eddie pinball designer and look at the the few machines that he's made came in made games everyone craps their pants about and then stopped is it did it
    62:50
    wait Brian Eddie Brian yeah right yeah I said I think so yeah please Brandon I'm kind of tired. You're not going to flame out like J-Pop? I don't think J-Pop flamed out. I think J-Pop is a designer, and designers aren't good businessmen. Yeah. A lot of the old designers, anyway. Because they grew up in, like, the hippy-dippy time where they were, like, big shit, you know? Mm-hmm. And they sort of got what they wanted when they wanted it because they were the kings of that industry. But they didn't really do anything business-related. When they tried to do that themselves, stuff didn't pan out so well. Yeah. I think J-Pop's a great designer.
    63:34
    This stuff is, like, interesting. Yeah. It's like a... I don't know. He, like, people made pinball machines, and then he made pinball machines but put weird shit in them. Like, he, like, Python was a weird pinball guy. Yeah, but he was more like weird art. Yeah, yeah. and J-pop was like weird gimmicks inside of the games yeah weird gimmicks I've always wondered what happened to Brian Eddy yeah he didn't need to make any more games man nah he made some great stuff and then he just was like okay I'm done yeah I wonder, does someone have a Wikipedia for him? What's he doing now? Is he working? I bet he's working for a slot machine company. Yeah, probably. When is J-Pop coming on stream?
    64:34
    I think J-Pop's really around. I don't know what. I mean, he. Like a pyramid. I'd be. Brian Eddy, cool. Thank you for posting that. So, I mean, I'd be happy to get J-Pop on stream. It's just the, I don't want to expose him to you guys. And I mean that in like, I don't mean that in a bad way. But what I mean is, I love all you guys. But holy crap, the opinion some of you have sometimes. I don't want to expose him to that, you know. Because he's got shit going on that he's dealing with. And that's that.
    65:19
    But I don't... It's not my place to, like, put him in front of everyone and let everyone just fucking bash him the entire time.
    65:28
    I think if I did have J-Pop on, we would not have chat up anywhere at all. Friday night. Dude, do you have a Wikipedia page about you? Wait, internet, do I have a Wikipedia? Oh, fuck, that means I made it. Yeah. Or deadflip or... Yeah, is there a Wikipedia? Hold on a second. Okay, Google. J-Pop is not my son.
    65:57
    Wikipedia Jack Danger. Sorry, I don't understand. Okay, Google. Who is Jack Danger? According to Wikipedia, Jack Dangerous is an electronic musician, AJ, producer, and remixer best known for his work as the primary member of Meat Beat Manifesto. That's a cool dude, though. He's a really cool dude. Yeah. He's a really cool dude. But that's Jack Dangerous with an S. Yeah.
    66:31
    Okay, so now I guess maybe. I'm not there. Not yet. I'm not there. Wait, how does that even happen? Maybe these guys should just make it for you. Yeah, wait. Except it would be full of like dial-dos and stuff. Dial-dos? so many dials those that was stupid um yeah internet how does a wikipedia get made cause I don't well first off you can't make it for yourself um can someone make me a wikipedia yeah we gotta get jack needs to make it for real we're on our way yo geese oh come on Oh, we're going to get beat up by geese, dude.
    67:17
    Watch out, goose. So, thanks for the host, man. Watch out, goose. Get out of the road, you dill. What the hell is it doing?
    67:26
    What do those things think they're doing? Just shitting all over the road. Crap all over the road. I mean, I'll make it, but I don't think you want to. Do you want me to? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm like this. Probably full of flippers and butts. I say make it so that, you know, I can go in and change it. Because some... I don't know how Wikipedias are made. Yeah, I don't know either. Because I think I tried to make one like three years ago. I don't know what that is.
    67:57
    Yeah, someone go ahead and make that for me. That'd be great. Can you type, like, wiki jack danger? wiki wikipedia oh shit the police that i'm not even going to mention things that are around i'm gonna actually take this off all right there so now all you can see is us there's no there's no environment around us yes it will matter all right yay the wife is home we made it what is going on here well we just got back to Scott Denise's love cavern big difference isn't that crazy how much that adds to the entire car because now it's just yeah look at that yeah now it's just a close-up of us ding-dongs nice now I can actually look at the thing I don't have my glasses on I can't see anything Nice Look Pinball machine Boom Can't really see it It's covered up With stuff Shirts and such Yeah Nuclear annihilation Yeah baby Um Okay we're here So we're gonna go Thanks to everyone who tuned in And kept us This trip went really quick because we were able to chat with you guys. That was dope. I love you.
    69:29
    Chair one got to head out dial-do. Head out dial-do. Dial-do. Yeah, we're going to bounce. If I stream again tonight, awesome. If I don't, I'll see you Monday or tomorrow. I'm not sure what's going to happen. Love you and have a good one. Bye.
    69:45
    See you, dude. Bye, dial-dos. Dial-dos. That's the wrong thing. Dial-dos.