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Episode 1045: "Kaneda Confirms Harry Potter Feature"

Kaneda's Pinball Podcast (Patreon feed)·podcast_episode·40m 56s·analyzed·Jan 17, 2025
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TL;DR

Kaneda confirms Harry Potter will be standard body with less mechanical content than expected.

Summary

Kaneda confirms on his podcast that Harry Potter by Jersey Jack Pinball will be a standard body (not wide body) machine and will not be as mechanically loaded as earlier JJP titles like Wizard of Oz or Pirates of the Caribbean. He expresses disappointment with this direction, arguing it represents cost-cutting despite price increases. The episode also covers Stern's Metallica Remastered code update, X-Men's troubled community reception, Spooky's upcoming titles (likely Beetlejuice over Goonies), and broader market dynamics heading into 2025.

Key Claims

  • Harry Potter will be a standard body machine, not a wide body

    high confidence · Kaneda directly states this as '100% confirmation' on his podcast

  • Harry Potter will not be as mechanically loaded as Wizard of Oz or earlier JJP games

    high confidence · Kaneda explicitly compares content levels and states Potter won't be 'packed to the glass the way earlier Jersey Jack Pinballs were'

  • Metallica Remastered code update has volume issues that should not have made it out the door

    high confidence · Kaneda notes sound issues with new code update and questions how it passed QA

  • Spooky's next game after Evil Dead is more likely Beetlejuice than Goonies

    medium confidence · Christopher Franchi stated it is 'bigger than Goonies' and Kaneda analyzes thematic fit

  • X-Men owners are experiencing severe community division and game reliability issues with auto plunger

    high confidence · Kaneda cites PinJammin's ball testing showing 6%-86% success rate variance and describes negative owner sentiment

  • Dungeons and Dragons LE is selling better than Jaws Pinball sold at this point in release

    medium confidence · Kaneda reports this claim from distributors but expresses skepticism about the comparison

  • Pulp Fiction LE secondary market is stabilizing around $9,500 with no premium

    high confidence · Kaneda observes multiple units for sale at this price point with no additional markup

  • Medieval Madness will be remanufactured in large quantities by Chicago Gaming Company

    medium confidence · Kaneda reports street word that they 'might make a thousand or more additional Medieval Madness games'

  • Dutch Pinball's Alice production will be delayed to mid-February due to double clear coat process

    high confidence · Kaneda references conversation with Melvin about two-layer clear coat and seam chipping prevention

Notable Quotes

  • “I have with 100% confirmation, I'm here to tell you that Harry Potter by Jersey Jack Pinball will be a standard body machine. No wide body, standard body machine.”

    Kaneda @ mid-episode (Harry Potter confirmation section) — Direct, high-confidence confirmation of Harry Potter's physical format—significant for collector expectations

  • “The game is not going to be loaded like Wizard of Oz. It's not going to be loaded like Dialed In. It's not going to be packed to the glass the way earlier Jersey Jack Pinballs were.”

    Kaneda @ Harry Potter confirmation section — Explicit statement about mechanical content expectations vs. earlier JJP titles

  • “Their new games, when put next to their original games, they look half as full. There's half as much fun stuff to shoot at.”

    Kaneda @ Harry Potter criticism section — Core criticism of Jersey Jack Pinball's recent design philosophy—cost-cutting perception

  • “It's like they made the games look beautiful. The artwork is usually really nice. They light them up like a Christmas tree. But mechanically, they've been really, really sort of barren.”

    Kaneda @ Harry Potter criticism section — Summary of Kaneda's view on JJP's recent aesthetic vs. mechanical balance

  • “Depending on what ball you put in this game, you can go from an 86% success rate to a 6%. That's not good.”

    Kaneda @ X-Men section — Illustrates X-Men's critical auto plunger reliability problem with specific data from PinJammin

  • “I just feel for all of you X-Men guys because the art is beautiful, the layout was unique, and I know you want to love this game so much.”

    Kaneda @ X-Men community sentiment section — Acknowledges X-Men's thematic/artistic strengths while noting owner dissatisfaction

  • “2025 is going to be defined by a year in which, if you're just a little bit patient, you're going to be able to have such access to so many new things.”

    Kaneda @ Market outlook section (Spooky/Evil Dead discussion) — Prediction about 2025 market dynamics—buyer's market, high supply, patience rewarded

Entities

KanedapersonEric MinorpersonChristopher FranchipersonJack DangerpersonKeith ElwinpersonBrian EddypersonDavidperson

Signals

  • ?

    product_strategy: Kaneda documents a pattern of Jersey Jack reducing mechanical content in recent games (Toy Story, Godfather, Elton John) compared to early catalogue (Pirates, Wizard of Oz) while maintaining or increasing prices

    high · Direct comparison: 'Their new games, when put next to their original games, they look half as full.' Harry Potter confirmation aligns with this pattern.

  • ?

    product_concern: X-Men has critical auto plunger malfunction dependent on pinball selection (6%-86% success rate variance), indicating systemic design flaw

    high · PinJammin's testing documented in episode; Kaneda states 'An American Pinball machine should not be designed in such a way in which it's that sensitive to what ball you put in it.'

  • $

    market_signal: Pulp Fiction LE stabilizing at $9,500 with no premium, suggesting $10k price ceiling holds for secondary market

    high · Kaneda observes: 'Now, I'm seeing people right now... sell for $9,500. No one's even asking for a penny more.'

  • ?

    manufacturing_signal: Dutch Pinball delaying Alice production from January to mid-February to add double clear coat protection, improving build quality

    high · Kaneda's direct conversation with Melvin: 'they're adding two layers, not one layer, two layers of clear coat to these playfields... the clear coat actually goes into all the scoops and all the cutouts to prevent chipping at the seams'

  • ~

    sentiment_shift: X-Men community sentiment has deteriorated significantly, with owners divided and attempting self-repair due to reliability issues and perceived resource deprioritization

Topics

Harry Potter machine format and mechanical contentprimaryJersey Jack Pinball design philosophy and cost-cutting perceptionprimaryX-Men reliability and community sentiment crisisprimary2025 pinball market saturation and buyer leverageprimarySpooky Pinball's next title selection (Beetlejuice vs. Goonies)primaryStern Metallica Remastered code quality and secondary market pricingsecondaryDungeons and Dragons sales performance vs. Jaws comparisonsecondaryChicago Gaming Company's Medieval Madness remanufacturing strategysecondary

Sentiment

mixed(0.35)— Kaneda expresses significant disappointment with Harry Potter's standard body format and lack of mechanical content, viewing it as cost-cutting by Jersey Jack despite price increases. However, he shows enthusiasm for some releases (Metallica Remastered, Spooky's light shows, D&D mechanics) and optimism about 2025 market buyer leverage. Negative sentiment dominates the X-Men discussion (reliability crisis) and JJP criticism, balanced by qualified praise for other manufacturers' efforts.

Transcript

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May I share something with you? A vision I had in my sleep last night, as distinguished from a dream which is mere sorting and cataloging of the day's events by the subconscious. This was a vision, fresh and clear as a mountain stream, the mind revealing itself to itself. In my vision, I was on the veranda of a vast estate, a palazzo of some fantastic proportion. There seemed to emanate from it a light from within this gleaming, radiant marble. I had known this place. I had, in fact, been born and raised there. This was my first return, a reunion with the deepest wellsprings of my being. Wondering about, I noticed happily that the house had been immaculately maintained. There had been added a number of additional rooms, but in a way that blended so seamlessly with the original construction, construction one would never detect any difference. Returning to the house's grand foyer, there came a knock at the door. My son was standing there. He was happy and carefree, clearly living a life of deep harmony and joy. We embraced warm and loving embrace. Nothing was held. We were in this moment one. My vision ended by a warm tremendous feeling of optimism and confidence in you and your future. That was my vision of you. You? I'm so glad to have had this opportunity to share it with him. I wish you nothing but the very best in all things. Thank you, Dad. I'll see you later, Paul. Okay. Ah, you're like, what's going on, Tineda? Well, look, we lost one of the most creative people in the world. yesterday and Mr. David Lynch. And if we think people are creative in pinball, oh my gosh, right? It's like when you zoom out a little bit and see the stuff out in the real world, it's crazy what we spend for the creativity we get. But we're going to talk about what's going on in pinball. We're going to go around the horn, but that's not why you're listening to this show. This show is all going to be about, you want one thing. You want some information on Harry Potter. I have information on Harry Potter. Whether or not it's the information you want, you can decide on that. But this is confirmed information, right? Coming from Kaneda. He's confirming this information for you. You haven't heard this anywhere else. And look, I think there's going to be some mixed results when I tell you what I'm going to tell you about this Harry Potter game. But before we do that, let's do what we normally do. Let's go around the pinball horn. talk about the pinball news and what's going on in the pinball world how does that sound everybody all right let's get right to it so let's start with stern pinball uh we'll start with metallica uh metallica remastered has had a code update uh they've put a lot more into the game the owners are loving this game the vibe around this metallica game is so damn positive people are like i think i'm gonna play this game 25 000 times this year good that's what you should be doing with this amazing game. If you buy a Metallica LE and you're afraid to play it, or you're going to sell it in just a few years with under 200 plays, you, sir, did not live. You didn't do it the right way. I want to see people with 5,000, 6,000, 7,000 plays on your games. And here's the reason why. You have to play your games this many times to battle back against the extreme depreciating prices of all these games, but Metallica LE is not really depreciating, but we're starting to see a little bit of the price come down on the second-hand market. These things were going for $17,000, $18,000 new in box. Now that they're opened up, I just saw an opened one for sale for, I think it was $16,500. That won't last very long because that's the cheapest second-hand price I've seen for Metallica since the game has been out, But again, great reviews, a little sort of sound issues with the new code update. They need to adjust some of the volumes. I'm never sure how these things get out the door with like volume issues on code updates. Like, didn't they listen to it? Like, how are we giving them this feedback that some of the volumes are off on some of the moments in the game? All right, we got Dungeons and Dragons LE. It's on the line. It's going to be making its way out to customers any day now. Stern gets these things out so quickly. Remember, they can make all LEs, all 740 of them can be made in a week and a half. So you're going to see all of them hit in the world. Now, people are saying something interesting. They're saying that this game, and distros are saying this, this game is selling better than Jaws Pinball sold. I don't get that. How is that possible? By this time, Jaws would have sold out all of its 1,000 LEs. They have not sold all the Dungeons and Dragons LEs. So what does that mean? Maybe the premiums are selling better than Jaws premium sold. I don't get why anyone runs at a premium on day one. I mean, really, I really don't get it. I really would love to drink a lot of whiskey and get inside the head of a dude who orders a premium on day one. You might as well just wait a few months and see how the market on the game shakes out. It makes no sense to me. they're gonna be making dnd premiums from now until 2000 like 29 like why get one right now we all know they're gonna make like 2000 premiums of this game by the end of the year they're gonna be easy to get but i don't buy that do you buy that do you believe that dnd is more popular than jaws the theme's not more popular than jaws Keith Elwin's got more of a following than Brian Eddy But I will say this, this is Stern's strongest effort in a long time. And that's good. And sales should reflect that. This is also Stern's most amazing mech they've put in a game in a really long time. And I think what we're seeing is that even though it's not like a take my money now theme for most people, it's also not a complete turnoff theme for most people. and it's in a thematical space that you could warm up to. Dragons, knights, wizards, dungeons, all that stuff works just fine for the pinball buying demographic. And I really do think people are just kind of like finally a little bit excited again about the effort Stern put into this game. And when you look at the mechanics of D&D, it clearly has way more mechanical, magical stuff and fun stuff to look at than Jaws pinball. I mean that like when you look at Jaws and you just think about the game itself, the mechanical stuff is a snooze fest. Like there's nothing in Jaws mechanically that is actually exciting to see, exciting to shoot. And I think that was a big mistake with Jaws. We all know this. If Jaws had a much more interesting mechanical shark that did what this dragon does, we would all be much more excited about the game. and the game would have sold much better. It really would have. I mean, they missed the mark on Jaws mechanically, and I get that the code is there, but they needed the code to be amazing because the damn mechanical stuff was really uninspired. But we shall see. But what's interesting now, gang, in just a few weeks, by the time these D&D start making their way out the door and Dwight is adjusting the dungeon layout every Sunday, all of the conversation is going to quickly turn to the next juggernaut game King Kong from Keith Elwin are we finally going to see spike 3 I'm telling you right now spike 3 is not going to be something that you like finally see the light and there's some huge difference in the game it's all going to be the internal computing power of the game and I'm not even sure you're gonna notice it. I don't think the screen size is going to be any different. I think the only thing you're really going to notice when Spike 3 Kong comes out is a price increase. That'll be the thing you feel the most. That's going to be where the conversation goes in just a few weeks. Now, I popped into a place that I tippy-toed into this place because you don't really want to, if you're in a good mood, you don't want to run to this place because the moment you go into this thread, it is like, it's where you don't want to be. And I always think about pinball themes in terms of like, what's the vibe like in the thread of the game itself? It's an interesting way to approach this entire hobby, right? I feel like all of us want to buy a game where the game gives us what we want and makes us happy. But when you go into the community of people that own that game, it's actually a fun place to be because that what makes owning a game for many many months and maybe many many years a lot more fun when the owners and the community and the vibe within that game is positive for the most part And I just going to give you an example and don't kill me, but Guns N' Roses, for the most part, if you go into the owner thread, it's been very, very positive and people really, really enjoy the game. And all the haters and the naysayers, they can't really hang out there anymore because nobody wants to hear from them. All right. So when I go into a thread that is X-Men, it is the opposite of good vibes. It is a community that is divided. It is a lot of people that want to love the game, but can't. A lot of people trying to problem solve the issues with the game. A lot of unhappy owners that are hearing Stern is now allocating more resources to D&D, which means they're taking resources away from X-Men. I bet you we see the Dungeons and Dragons topper before we see the topper for X-Men. And I think people are starting to realize that this thing might not turn around, that it just might be too frustrating for Stern to have to deal with all the issues and they can't fix it. Like Wyson set the code on a course that can't be corrected. And it's at the point now where people are just trying to figure out how to fix the game themselves. And I saw Pinsider Pinjammin. He did this interesting thing. He got all the pinballs that are out there available to buy and put in your game. He got all the different pinballs and he did a test to see how the auto plunger would work. If you switch the different balls into the games and he did like 250 auto plunges. I don't know. Maybe it was 25. That sounds like a lot. But anyway, he recorded the success rate on the different pinballs. And one ball had a success rate of 86%. Not bad, right? 86%. Still not 100, but 86%. But then at the bottom, at the bottom, was a success rate of 6%. Isn't that crazy? Depending on what ball you put in this game, you can go from an 86% success rate to a 6%. That's not good. A pinball machine should not be designed in such a way in which it's that sensitive to what ball you put in it. Oh man, and I just feel for all of you X-Men guys because the art is beautiful, the layout was unique, and I know you want to love this game so much. And I know now you're going to witness all the resources go elsewhere. And I know now a lot of you are feeling like, I need to get out of this game. I need to list this game on the market and it's so painful to buy such a beautiful stern machine and just get destroyed on the resale value because I don't know anyone out there who's like I got to get my hands on one and that's the problem is like the vibe is so bad and the demand to get one is just not there I know this is crushing the Jack Danger and I think he's going to come back out with his next game and do something absolutely to recover from this moment. I also think he's probably yelling at the management over at Stern, how could you give me this code team and how could we deliver just this? It's not fair. I deserved more than this. And he's right. He did. He deserved a better software team and a better direction on this game. He also deserved to have more time. and I think time was taken from him and it bit them in the rear end. All right, so that's what's going on over at Stern as we wait for King Kong. Spooky pinball. Evil Dead is on the line. There was a post on Facebook. Go look at the production line over at Spooky Pinball. They're making right now Scooby-Doo's Texas Chainsaw Massacre. They're also making Evil Dead and they just have like a lineup of games and they're ready to go out to customers and they're all lit up. the lights are off and OMG man you know what's crazy about Spooky when you see him in a lineup their light shows are 10 times better than Stern they've got maybe the best light shows going in pinball right now I think the light show in Evil Dead is more impressive than the light show in Avatar it is a really beautiful pin and it's still not sold out right is it crazy it's crazy to me I mean, I don't even like Evil Dead at all. And every time I see one, I want it just a little bit more. But I think, again, they've only got to sell like another few hundred, another couple hundred, maybe 150. You know, I don't know if they're going to sell them really because everyone knows they're at the back of the line. You're going to be able to get one because by the time people start unboxing their Evil Deads, they're going to land somewhere in a world of Harry Potter and King Kong and another game from barrels. It's going to get really crowded really fast. Everybody, take my word for it. It's going to be a buyer's market, not a seller's market, a buyer's market. 2025 is going to be defined by a year in which, if you're just a little bit patient, you're going to be able to have such access to so many new things. I don't know if they're good or not, right? I'm not going to say you're going to have access to great games because I don't know if they're good or not. And history has shown us when our expectations are sky high, we are usually disappointed in this hobby. All right. The other thing about Spooky is this. We know it's not Goonies next. Christopher Franchi, on the record, it is bigger than Goonies. It is most likely going to be Beetlejuice. Both Beetlejuice and Gremlins were bigger at the box office than Goonies. Also, when you think about spooky and the themes they like to make, Goonies isn't really in that spooky sort of realm, right? It's not like a scary kind of movie. It doesn't have the kind of like vibe that they go for. I think Gremlins, yes, much more spooky in theme. Same thing with Beetlejuice. Absolutely, right? All the dead people and the spirits and the ghouls and the ghosts. It's all there. Like Beetlejuice is basically a ghost. So like I think it's going to be Beetlejuice, you know, and look, and that's not going to surprise anybody. And I think Beetlejuice for Spooky Pinball is going to be a sellout within an hour. They're not going to be able to take people's money fast enough. And Franchi on Beetlejuice is going to be killer. If it was Gremlins, not going to move the needle nearly as much as Beetlejuice, but it'll still do well. But I think out of those three, it would absolutely in order of preference. I think Beetlejuice and Goonies is kind of equal a little bit in terms of demand amongst this buying demographic. Gremlins is a third for sure, but it's still, I take it, right? I would take a Gremlins over Evil Dead, over Rob Zombie, over Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It got me thinking, do they even have Goonies? I mean, someone's got it. And then we heard on Jason Knapp's site that Multimorphic looked into the Goonies license and it was available at some point. And the assets you could get for the game were not great and they moved on from it. It's got me a little bit nervous. It's got me a little bit nervous that maybe nobody has the Goonies. It also got me a little bit nervous that if someone does have the Goonies, maybe, I don't know why I said nervous. This doesn't make me nervous. But it also got me thinking that maybe it's not spooky. Maybe Goonies, because we all know that Deep Root Pinball had some sort of Goonies license. And after that, someone else picked the license up. Maybe it's Barrels of Fun. We keep speculating about what Barrels of Fun is making next. And we know it's going to be more of a mainstream theme. And, you know, I don't know. I don't know. You know, my good source told me it's a spooky game and there's a pirate ship and it's next. But now Christopher Franchi, who's closer than anybody to these projects, is saying it's not Goonies. It's bigger than Goonies. I don't know. Unless it's some sort of like all big new Goonies adventure. And that's what he means by that phrase. I don't know. Maybe it's Goonies 2, right? There's a new movie coming out. I don't know. I don't think it's that because then they wouldn't even be developing it yet if the new movie wasn't even out yet. But here's the thing about Barrels of Fun. Whether it's Goonies, whether it's something else. else. What's going to be interesting about barrels is when do they release this game? Because they're pretty much done with Labyrinth. They're going to make a few more, but demand on Labyrinth is over. David's got a very sort of like smart approach. I'm not going to release a game until it's ready. And I'm not going to release a game until everybody who ordered my previous game has their game. Okay, cool. But he's still got to be a little bit nervous that his next game, the window to launch it in, is going to be very important. And this is where marketing does matter because I think he runs the risk of being sandwiched between King Kong and Harry Potter. And, you know, the old tradition was always like, you got to launch a game around TPF because that's when you launch games. And if you launch it right before TPF, then you go to TPF and that equals sales. I'm here to tell you, and you guys all know this, you don't need a show to sell a game. If you have a good theme and you have something called the internet and people like what they see, you're going to sell every single one without even needing to go to a show. But there's always been that desire. Some of it's just probably a little bit the desire to walk around the show and slap high fives and be the man. Like I'm the one who did this. I'm in front of a crowd with a terrible PowerPoint presentation and I'm about to tell you how we made this game. And then I'm going to slap you with the price and kick you in the balls, right? I mean, that's pretty much how it's been when people think about the time of year, right? We launch games around TPF. We launch games around Expo. That sort of been the go approach But I think David going to do it a little bit differently but I just don know what the window is Because when you think about it Harry Potter coming out end of February early March Okay that happening right So you know that And you know Harry Potter is going to create like a little bit of a black hole for other sales, like people's money is going to flow that way. Even if the game's not that good, I'm telling you, it's Harry Potter. We're going to talk about it in a little bit. But there's only so much room people have. I think it's more the issue of room than it is an issue of money. For me, it's both. I really got to be candid about that. I mean, I'll be back financially high on the hog when I finally get my apartment check. It's been the most expensive year of my life. I've always been not in debt. My apartment was always fully paid for. And then I look at my account now and it's like, you owe this much money on your house. That's about to be more than cut in half, but it's still right. It's still like, oh man, do I? Like what happened here? You know, I went from having thousands a month. I went from having so much money each month to buy whatever I wanted on top of daycare, on top of everything. And now it's like, just got to buckle down. Okay. Which is fine. You know, which is fine. I made all the right sacrifices. I wouldn't have traded these decisions for all the pinball in the world. I'm happy I sold my Batman SLE and bought furniture for Brenda it was the right decision all right so we shall see what happens with this barrels of fun game and when they launch it if I had to guess when he's gonna launch this game I think it's gonna be April let's take a look I think we're gonna see Harry Potter in February March then I think we're gonna get the new barrels a fun game revealed, then I think we're going to get King Kong. Who knows though, right? Who knows? All right, what else is going on in the world of pinball? Chicago Gaming Company, my favorite pinball company. Now, did you see this? They're making the Pulp Fiction L.E.s. The games are beautiful, people. I know I've been snarky on this company for the obvious reasons. They're still beautiful games. The toppers look just fine. Anyone who's unboxing this game and putting it into their lineup. It is a little bit of a showstopper. It is. It is a work of art. It is gorgeous. And when I see them now, I do start to sort of remember why I wanted one so bad in the first place. I just don't really care that much anymore. But here's the funny part. So someone is unboxing their LE and on the plaque, it says they got game number 220 out of 100, right? Out of 100. How is that possible? Somebody left the last zero off on the right side of the plaque. And again, I know this is just a little thing, but it also shows me that nobody over there is looking over the game head to toe. Here's the good news. If you want this game right now, they're popping up for sale left and right. And the good news is, is you don't have to spend a single penny over $9,500 to get the game. That's good. I'm seeing people right now. And here's the good news too, is like the games are in boxes, like ready to go to you the next day. So I'm seeing them sell for 9,500. No one's even asking for a penny more. And that's where we're at with Pulp Fiction LE. Once they make all thousand units, this $9,500 game, you know, I think it's going to lose about a grand. The good news with this game, we all know what the good news is. It started at $9,500. It is basically the price of a Stern premium. If this game was $12 or $13, yeah, it would lose that money because I think $10K still seems to be like the ceiling that people want to spend on any pinball machine. And I think we're going to see more and more of the entire pinball market slide down to that if it was priced above $10K. And very few machines are going to hold value around $10,000. It's just a really hard place to maintain value. So that's what's happening at CGC. The other thing that's going to happen at this company after these Pulp Fictions is they're going to make Medieval Madness again, and not just a few of them, a lot of them. And the word on the street is that they might make a thousand or more additional Medieval Madness games. Obviously, I think they're going to do different trims. I think there's going to be more royal editions made. Distributors are saying that that's not even going to satiate demand for Medieval Madness. Now, look, it's still one of the best games of all time. So I'm not surprised. But I do think post-D&D, the demand for Medieval Madness, with Dungeons & Dragons being a similar theme, I do think that's going to soften some of the demand for Medieval Madness. But everyone's got to remember, like, Medieval Madness Royal Edition came with that awesome topper, awesome powder-coated armor, and the entire game was only $10,000. And you know what I'm saying? Like, that topper would have been $2,000 from Stern on top of a $13,000 game. That would have been a $15,000 offering from Stern Pinball or Jersey Jack. And that is why that game is so popular. It is a gorgeous game. I'm just looking forward to more of them. And then we're going to see maybe Mark Ritchie's Halo after that. And then we're going to see some more Twilight Zones. Whenever I talk about CGC, as I say these things, it's always like, well, cool, but when? And we might be well into 2027 by the time those few things make it to market. Just one more thing, then we're going to get to this Harry Potter news. All right, everybody. So Dutch Pinball, Dutch Pinball, if you're Dutch Pinball, what's the one word that nobody wants to hear from Dutch Pinball? It also starts with a D, delay. And here we are. Here we are. I said if they delayed getting Alice's on the line in January, I was going to give them some grief. And here we are. They are already behind schedule. oh shucks who could have guessed that that Dutch pinball telling everybody they're going to make 500 Alice machines in one year when it takes them a week to crank out 10 games so the math only works out if they started making Alice's week one of January so that's not happening we're now being told that it's going to be more like mid-February the reason why is the playfields So we saw the video of the playfields getting ink screened. Is that what you call it? Ink screen or printed? Here's the thing. I talked to Melvin and the reason why there's a little bit of a delay is they're adding two layers, not one layer, two layers of clear coat to these playfields. And he was also describing to me how they're doing the clear. Unlike Mirko, the clear coat actually goes into all the scoops and all the cutouts to prevent shipping at the seams. So that's good. And I think you're going to get a beautiful double clear-coated game. But I just hope they have all the parts in. I hope everything's ready to go. I hope they've got the toppers coming in. You know, people just want to see this game on the line. The other thing too is these games are being made in the Netherlands. I'm not sure if the new administration and the tariffs on goods being imported is going to impact things for Dutch pinball okay so let's say the games are on the line in mid-february what's the earliest someone in america is actually gonna unbox and play this thing you know that's the thing i don't know like this isn't like these things are being made in chicago and you can go drive with your pickup truck and have it in your house that weekend man i don't think we're gonna see people really playing this thing and like until march april right all right so harry potter jersey jack pinball still spamming us on Facebook every day. They're still spamming us Godfather ads. Like, what are you guys doing? Can you just take whoever's doing your social media content and be like, Jimmy, what are you doing? Nobody cares about Godfather, bro. We're not going to sell another Godfather machine. The only way we're going to sell Godfather is if we list this thing for the market price. You already cut $2,000 off of GNR to move those LEs. Well, for Godfather, you've got to take off like $4,000 to move the units. I mean that. $4,000 off an LE is $8,000. Yeah, that's not even going to move LEs. And $4,000 off the CE is $11,000. And those CEs are selling for less than that on the secondhand market. Okay, so we've got Harry Potter right around the corner. I'm just going to tell you right now what I know. and this is confirmation, I think when you hear this, you're not going to be completely surprised. But I think when you hear this, you're also going to be somewhat disappointed. Because I think what this news does is it confirms for all of us that we're just not going to get that extremely loaded thing we wanted. And that's just the way it goes. I'm here to tell you on Canada's Pinball Podcast, I have with 100% confirmation, I'm here to tell you that Harry Potter by Jersey Jack Pinball will be a standard body machine. No wide body, standard body machine. I'm also here to tell you the game is not going to be loaded like Wizard of Oz. It's not going to be loaded like Dialed In. it's not going to be packed to the glass the way earlier Jersey Jack machines were. Okay, so let's just think about that for a minute and why I think a lot of you are kind of feeling a little deflated Harry Potter right This world of magic and castles and spells and all the things in that universe You really really really have so much to work with to put under the glass in a pinball machine You can put a lot more under that glass when you have a wide body machine. I mean, look at everything that's in Pirates of the Caribbean. Look at everything that's in Wizard of Oz. I think a lot of people were hoping it would be a wide body because a lot of people that love Eric's Pirates love the way he made the game play. When you play Pirates of the Caribbean, it doesn't shoot like a wide body. It has a lot more speed and flow, but it also has a lot of toys in it. You know, when you look at Pirates and you look at that upper playfield, we were all sold on that alone. That was the coolest upper playfield in the history of pinball. The triple spinning discs were awesome. They worked. They worked. Pat Lawler yanked them out. We know that JJP used to have the potential to load up these games and give us the wow. And we haven't seen the wow in a JJP game since the light show in GNR. And remember, that's over four years ago. We didn't see wow in Toy Story. We did not see wow in The Godfather. We did not see wow in Elton John. Elton John's a great shooter. but the wow. How did they do that? Did you see what happens there? It's not in the game. It's not in the game. And when you put in Elton John next to a Wizard of Oz and you realize that Wizard of Oz was half the price of Elton John, it's a big problem for Jersey Jack Pinball. Their new games, when put next to their original games, they look half as full. There's half as much fun stuff to shoot at, you know, they just seem to lack going the extra mile. Seems like they went more towards a cost-cutting approach. And yet the prices went up, right? It's like they made the games look beautiful. The artwork is usually really nice. They light them up like a Christmas tree. But mechanically, they've been really, really sort of barren. When you lift the play field on the last four games, all you got to do is lift the play field on the first four games from Jersey Jack and then lift the play field on the last four games. And you'll see, right? You'll see. It looks like this costs half as much to make as that. So Potter, right? The theme that was impossible to make. The author didn't want anybody to make it because she didn't want Harry Potter in seedy bars. They got the license somehow. It's going to be based on the movies. It just seemed to be the theme that should be the return to glory for Jersey Jack Pinball and its loaded machines. You got Eric Meunier, the guy that made maybe the most loaded game they've ever had in Pirates of the Caribbean, a game that to this day, even though they made only a thousand, continues to sort of be celebrated and hold a tremendous amount of value. Now, you could argue it's because they only made a thousand and that is not wrong. But this was supposed to be the game. I feel like Obi-Wan Kenobi. You were supposed to be the chosen one, Harry Potter. You're supposed to return Jersey Jack to its former glory. And this doesn't mean that this game is not going to do that. But it definitely telegraphs that it's not going to be as loaded as we think. It also telegraphs that they're not changing direction significantly. You know what I forgot? I just list out the last four games. I forgot Avatar. I forgot to even mention Avatar. That's how little that game has made an impact. Even on me, I forgot about it. Oh, and by the way, I heard from someone who saw the CEs, the UV ink does not appear any better than you've seen already. So if you're expecting them to have fixed the issue, it's not going to happen. Yeah, it's going to look a little bit better because it's got three colors, but it's not really going to light up like it did in the trailer that made you order this game. So that's about to happen. And there's a reason why they're not showing us any examples of it because they don't have a good example of it to show. All right, so Harry Potter, standard body game coming out in just a few weeks. And I also asked my source, I said, hey, is this thing packed? Like, is it gonna have that like, wow, the way that Pirates did, the way that Wizard of Oz did. And then there was just like a long period of silence on the other end of the phone. And he's like, yeah, he's like, you know, like it was just kind of like, but it's still Harry Potter, you know, and I feel like, all right, so let's start to manage our expectations around this game. I think it's beneficial if we all significantly lower our expectations around Harry Potter pinball. Here's another interesting thing. Do you know, and this had to come from Jersey Jack Pinball, because there's no way the Harry Potter license holder would have even been aware of this. Do you know that that nice little gentleman who's making that homebrew, wide body version of Harry Potter, do you know that he was sent a cease and desist letter from the IP holder of Harry Potter? Now, who do you think was behind that? maybe Jersey Jack, right? Think about it for a minute. They don't want people to see the potential of what could be in a Harry Potter pinball machine in wide body form. And that guy made his Harry Potter homebrew to look exactly like a Jersey Jack machine. I mean, the artwork looks identical to the way JJP lays out its artwork. You've got the big screen, everything about it, Everything about that guy's game was like OMG. And the mechanical stuff he has in it and like, oh man, the battle between Voldemort and Harry where the ball gets grabbed by the magnet and goes back and forth across the play field. I feel like they saw that and they realized we don't want people to get excited about this and then we drop our game out there and it doesn't have anywhere near the same level of magic. So yeah, he got a cease and desist. Now, if I were him, I would take that cease and desist and flush it down the toilet. There is nothing illegal about making a one-off version of anything for yourself. There's nothing illegal about it. He's not making this for commercial gain. He's not selling that homebrew version of Harry Potter. And I think that's another thing to me, people that's telegraphing that Jersey Jack's a little nervous. They don't have the sort of banger that they know we want to see from them. So I don't know, everybody. I think history is about to maybe repeat itself. I think this company has been a little bit in a weird space. I think it's a good thing that Pat Lawler is gone. But I also don't think they have their chief creative officer like George Gomez. Maybe that's now Steve Ritchie. But Ritchie's not the guy, man. Ritchie is not the guy that's going to return them to previous glory. Richie's all about gameplay, sure. But Steve's games in general have kind of been a little underwhelming in the mech department. And here's the problem with all the pinball. Is if you want a lot of toys and mechs, you're going to have more of a stop and go game. And if you want a lot of flow like Richie does, then you take stuff out. Then you put everything at the top of the play field. You open up that play field. It's that simple, people. There's not like a mystery on how you make a game feel better. You open it up. You just open it up. And that's why I think Pirates of the Caribbean made a lot of people excited because it kind of gave you the best of both worlds. Wizard of Oz, I don't think really did. It gave you a lot of toys and stuff, but man, it's not a good shooter. Guns and Roses, you know, Guns and Roses doesn't shoot very well and it doesn't have a lot of toys. I don't know. It's got a great light show and great music happening. Dialed In is probably the best example of a good shooter with a lot of toys. So if I could hope that Harry Potter is something, I would hope that it's the spiritual successor to Dialed In. Because I think Dialed In gave you everything. You know, Toy Story, no. Like, not enough in it. Godfather, please no. Not another Godfather. The one thing that makes me nervous is when I met with Eric at the Avatar launch. He said his next game plays really fast. And I'm like, oh, there we go. There we go. It's going to be empty. It's going to be empty. you're going to lift the hood on that thing and there's not going to be that much. We shall see just a few weeks away. It could just be six weeks away. But you heard it here first on Canada confirming Harry Potter is a standard body game. We will see what that means for this game when it comes out in just a month and a half. Everybody, have a great Friday. Come hang out at the Saturday Morning Spectacular tomorrow. You might be able to see the return of Canada's Fix-It Felix Jr. Thank you, Mr. Robert Mooney. all these years holding on to the game, fixing the monitor when it went down. I really do appreciate it. And I'm going to root for your Eagles this weekend because I know how nervous the Mooney family is over there. They didn't look good last week. They did not look good. If they didn't get that fumble to start the game, I don't even think they win that game. Everybody, happy Friday. Kaneda out. Just you and I Together forever In love
  • Jersey Jack Pinball has not delivered mechanical 'wow' since Guns N' Roses light show four years ago

    high confidence · Kaneda's opinion comparing recent JJP titles (Toy Story, Godfather, Elton John) to earlier releases

  • “Christopher Franchi, on the record, it is bigger than Goonies. It is most likely going to be Beetlejuice.”

    Kaneda @ Spooky Pinball section — Attribution of Spooky's next title direction to manufacturer source

  • “I don't think we're gonna see people really playing this thing until like April, right?”

    Kaneda @ Dutch Pinball Alice section — Realistic timeline expectation for Alice production-to-delivery given Netherlands manufacturing and shipping

  • “We're not going to sell another Godfather machine. The only way we're going to sell Godfather is if we list this thing for the market price.”

    Kaneda @ Jersey Jack inventory management section — Assessment of Godfather's inventory problem and required pricing adjustment

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    high · Kaneda describes thread as 'the opposite of good vibes,' contrasts with positive Guns N' Roses community, notes owners attempting to problem-solve and considering selling

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    market_signal: 2025 expected to be a buyer's market with multiple major releases (King Kong, Harry Potter, Barrels title, Alice, Evil Dead) creating supply excess and delaying secondary market sales

    high · Kaneda forecasts: '2025 is going to be defined by a year in which, if you're just a little bit patient, you're going to be able to have such access to so many new things... buyer's market, not a seller's market'

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    machine_intel: Harry Potter confirmed as standard body (not wide body) with reduced mechanical content compared to Wizard of Oz and Pirates of the Caribbean

    high · Kaneda's explicit '100% confirmation' statement and detailed comparison to earlier JJP titles

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    licensing_signal: Goonies license availability unclear; Multimorphic investigated and rejected due to poor asset quality; Deep Root previously held rights; current holder unknown

    medium · Kaneda: 'Multimorphic looked into the Goonies license and it was available at some point. And the assets you could get for the game were not great, and they moved on from it.'

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    product_strategy: Barrels of Fun considering April launch for next game to avoid being sandwiched between King Kong (late 2025) and Harry Potter (Feb/March), strategic about avoiding major release clustering

    medium · Kaneda speculates: 'If I had to guess when he's gonna launch this game, I think it's gonna be April' and notes risks of being 'sandwiched between King Kong and Harry Potter'

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    code_update: Metallica Remastered code update has volume balancing issues that should have been caught in QA before release

    high · Kaneda questions: 'I'm never sure how these things get out the door with like volume issues on code updates. Like, didn't they listen to it?'

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    competitive_signal: Among Spooky's next title options (Beetlejuice, Gremlins, Goonies), Kaneda predicts demand order: Beetlejuice (highest, sellout within hour), Goonies/Gremlins (lower tier)

    medium · Kaneda analysis: 'Beetlejuice for Spooky Pinball is going to be a sellout within an hour... Gremlins is a third for sure' based on thematic fit with spooky brand

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    product_launch: Jersey Jack Pinball's Godfather LE inventory stagnant; needs $4,000+ price reduction from $15,000 to move units, significantly below secondary market demand

    high · Kaneda: 'For Godfather, you've got to take off like $4,000 to move the units... those CEs are selling for less than that on the second-hand market'