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Wedgehead explores System 11 era (1986-91), crediting Larry DeMar's design and Python Anghelo's iconic art.
System 11 was designed and developed by Larry DeMar, arguably the single most valuable employee at Williams during this era.
high confidence · Alan explicitly credits Larry DeMar as 'pinball super genius' and 'the architect that built in and ensured William's dominance during this era.'
High Speed sold 17,000 units and was the first System 11 game released in January 1986.
high confidence · Alan states: 'The first game of the System 11 era, released January of 1986, High Speed, Steve Ritchie designed, Larry DeMar on software... it sold 17,000 units.'
High Speed was nicknamed 'High Cost' by many at Williams due to increased build materials.
high confidence · Alan: 'It was nicknamed High Cost by many at Williams for the increased build of materials on this game.'
Steve Ritchie's High Speed backglass art was based on a true story of him driving his 1979 Porsche 928 at 149 mph through a cop speed trap.
high confidence · Alex confirms: 'it was famously based, so the back glass... Based on a story that is apparently true, per Steve Ritchie, of him driving his 1979 Porsche 928 at 149 miles an hour going through a cop speed trap.'
Grand Lizard was originally developed as a System 9 game, then pushed back and reconfigured as a System 11 game, causing a disjointed art package.
high confidence · Alan: 'this game was in development and it was set to be a System 9 game, which is the system previous to this, they skipped System 10. What? It got pushed back and then reconfigured to become this System 11 game, and because of that with alphanumeric displays that they introduced, they had to move the display windows down.'
Pat Lawlor built Banzai Run (originally titled Wrecking Ball) in his garage to earn a job at Williams.
high confidence · Alan: 'Pat Lawlor went and built in his garage to kinda earn his spot as on the design team at Williams... Larry encouraged Pat to actually build one and Larry helped him with the programming. They then pitched it to Williams with the original theme wrecking ball and the effort got him a job at Williams.'
Banzai Run sold only 1,750 units, which is surprisingly low for a game that pioneered Pat Lawlor's career.
“System 11 is the last arcade pinball machines ever made in real time. Everything past this is kind of like a video game.”
Ty Palmer @ early in episode — Ty establishes his personal philosophy that System 11 represents the boundary between analog/mechanical pinball and digitized gameplay, a viewpoint that frames the episode's perspective.
“Larry DeMar... arguably did more to advance the game of pinball than anyone else.”
Alan @ introduction segment — Alan establishes Larry DeMar as the central figure of the System 11 era and credits him with fundamental architectural contributions.
“It's the cult of the new, man. It's just like any game this old even making the top 100 is unbelievable.”
Alex (about High Speed's Pinside ranking) @ High Speed discussion — Reflects on community tendency to favor newer games over classics, acknowledged as a known bias in the Pinside voting system.
“Road Kings should be [lowest rated]. Yeah, true.”
Ty Palmer (responding to Alan's criticism) @ Road Kings discussion — Ty agrees with Alan's harsh assessment of Road Kings despite loving Mark Ritchie's work elsewhere, showing nuance in critical evaluation.
“PinBot... these are still fairly cheap games. I think they're fucking awesome.”
Ty Palmer @ PinBot discussion — Recommends PinBot as an accessible entry point to classic System 11 collecting, with market intelligence about secondary market pricing.
“I was the only one in the art room at the time and I had the TV on [when Challenger exploded]. It was terrible and ironic at the same time. I was actually painting the small space shuttle on the right of the back glass when it happened.”
Tim Elliot (quoted by Alex) @ Space Station discussion — Poignant historical detail connecting Space Station's artwork to the 1986 Challenger disaster, illustrating the human element in game design.
“An amusement park under glass. That's how he described pinball to people he worked with when he was lucid.”
design_innovation: System 11 era pioneered multiple mechanical innovations including alphanumeric displays, progressive jackpots, multiball exclusive jackpots, high-speed kickback features, ball safe features, synthesized sounds, flip-up playfields, and interactive mechs (PinBot's visor, Big Guns' cannons).
high · Alan and hosts detail numerous 'firsts' throughout the episode: 'first progressive jackpot,' 'first game to play a complete song,' 'first multiball exclusive jackpot,' 'first kind of center pop-up ramp,' 'first major interactive mech in pinball.'
historical_signal: System 11 (1986-1991) defined the boundary between analog/mechanical pinball and modern digitized gameplay; Ty Palmer explicitly states this is the 'last arcade pinball machines ever made in real time.'
high · Ty: 'System 11 is the last arcade pinball machines ever made in real time. Everything past this is kind of like a video game.' Alex agrees with framing of System 11 as 'gateway to modern pinball.'
design_innovation: Python Anghelo's artistic style evolved throughout the era, progressing from cyberpunk/psychedelic phases to themed amusement park concepts; hosts track his drug use patterns through visual analysis of his art packages.
medium · Alex on PinBot: 'like a Python mushroom era design. You can kind of track... you're like, I know what drugs you're on.' Later on Partyzone: hosts discuss Python's 'drug era is changing' and his vision of creating 'an amusement park under glass.'
personnel_signal: Pat Lawlor emerged as a major designer through his garage-built Banzai Run prototype, which earned him employment at Williams and established his partnership with mechanical engineer John Krutsch.
high · Alan: 'Pat Lawlor went and built in his garage to kinda earn his spot... Larry encouraged Pat to actually build one... They then pitched it to Williams... and the effort got him a job at Williams.'
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high confidence · Alan: 'It sold poorly. It only sold 1750 units, which is surprising because...'
PinBot sold 12,000 units and is considered one of the great pinball machines of the System 11 generation.
high confidence · Ty: 'it was a big seller did 12,000 units. It's considered like one of the great pinball machines, one of the best of this generation'
Partyzone sold 9,400 units and was the fourth best-selling game of the System 11 era.
high confidence · Alex: 'It's got a low pin side ranking, but it sold almost 10,000 units, sold 9,400 units. It's the fourth best selling game from this era and was kind of a staple.'
Chris Granner composed the sound package for Grand Lizard, marking his first game work in the industry.
high confidence · Alan: 'It's the first game that Chris Granner did the sound package on, and the sound and music on it are fantastic for the era. And for Chris's first game...'
Alex (describing Python Anghelo's design philosophy) @ Partyzone discussion — Encapsulates Python Anghelo's visual and thematic philosophy as the era's most distinctive artist.
“No game had a hold on me in my childhood like Banzai Run... as a child it was just, it felt impossible.”
Alex @ Banzai Run discussion — Personal testimony to Banzai Run's cultural impact despite poor sales, emphasizing emotional connection over commercial success.
“This game sucks, okay? Like, I hate this game. I don't... I'm not going to belabor it, but like, I dislike this game and I love Mark Ritchie.”
Alex (about Road Kings) @ Road Kings discussion — Candid critical assessment; Alex explicitly states Road Kings is the only Mark Ritchie game he dislikes.
“It's like the giving tree. The blueprint... everybody's taken from poor road kings.”
Alex @ Road Kings discussion — Despite hating Road Kings, Alex acknowledges it became a prototype for future designers like Pat Lawlor to build upon and improve.
product_concern: Banzai Run, despite historic significance and innovation, sold only 1,750 units, suggesting possible pricing issues or market positioning problems for vertical playfield design.
high · Alan: 'It sold poorly. It only sold 1750 units, which is surprising...' The poor sales stand in stark contrast to its design importance and cultural impact.
gameplay_signal: Progressive jackpot mechanics in System 11 era created both player engagement and frustration; they reset to base values after collection, creating dynamic gameplay but also discouragement when others collect before you play.
high · Hosts discuss progressive jackpots extensively: Alex notes 'if somebody collects a huge one in front of you... it's just so disheartening when that thing resets and you're like, what's the fucking point?'
community_signal: Pinside's Top 100 ranking system shows clear bias toward newer games, with classic System 11 games (even highly regarded ones like High Speed) underrated due to 'cult of the new' voting pattern.
high · Alex: 'It's the cult of the new, man. It's just like any game this old even making the top 100 is unbelievable.' Hosts note that High Speed and other classics underperform in rankings relative to their historical importance.
product_strategy: High Speed was nicknamed 'High Cost' by Williams manufacturing staff, suggesting premium build materials may have impacted production or pricing strategy compared to other System 11 titles.
medium · Alan: 'It was nicknamed High Cost by many at Williams for the increased build of materials on this game.' No explicit link to sales impact stated, but the nickname suggests manufacturing concern.
design_philosophy: Hosts note that System 11 era was dominated by center ramp designs ('Lots of center ramps, inexplicably'), suggesting both design preference and technical capability advances that enabled new playfield layouts.
medium · Alan in intro: 'It was sort of an era dominated by Barry Ousler and Python Anghelo creations. Lots of center ramps, inexplicably, defined by leaps in technology...'
restoration_signal: High Speed introduced flip-up playfield design that became standard for operators, improving maintenance accessibility compared to earlier pinball machines.
high · Alan: 'It featured auto-percentaging... It had the first kind of flip up playfield. So as an operator, I could like pull the glass off and like flip the playfield up all the way... That's extremely helpful.'
gameplay_signal: System 11 games introduced increasingly complex rulesets and objectives, establishing modern pinball's emphasis on strategic shot sequences and multiball exclusive targets.
high · Alan: 'multiball exclusive jackpot... this is the first game where there's like a clear goal when you're in multiball. It's not just like, hey, stuff's worth more... You have jackpots to shoot, and that's Larry DeMar's influence.'